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We have a primary orientation to self.

For me, that USED to be true... than, I got born again and became a New Creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) and now I have a primary orientation to the Lord Jesus!


Call it a sin nature

No thank you.


The self (ish) nature never has enough; it is a bottomless abyss and leaves its inhabitants destitute....and hopeless.

I sure hope you get born again one day and escape the corruption that is in the world thru lust thru the Lord's exceeding great and precious promises (2 Peter 1:4)


The identity of Romans 7 guy has been a subject of controversy ever since the Reformation

And of course the reformation guys got it all wrong as usual.

They failed to go back to the whole counsel of God so they didn't reform anything actually.... they just brought forth more false doctrine that was different from catholic false doctrine along with the claim that they were superior to catholics.


Paul is talking about himself in his current state.

That's their problem... Paul did not live a life of a sinner! The devil does desire to paint Pail in that light in order to trick Christians to think it's all good if they live in the flesh and do some sin. It's the devil that teaches we arell born sinners and cannot help but since everyday in thought word and deed! The devil benefits from this message!

No, Paul did what the New Testament teaches...

Colossians 3:5-9
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:


Ephesians 4:24
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Romans 13:14
But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Hebrews 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Romans 6:4-6
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.


Colossians 3:5,6
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

As these scripture references indicate, those not accepting the calling of the Lord to be led by the Holy Ghost into walking after the new man are in disobedience... which will NOT end well for those thinking they sin everyday unless they repent of their sin and get with the Lord's game plan!



For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. (Romans 7:19)

This is a person that does not have the Holy Spirit in them and is not being led by the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit brings the fruit of the Spirit one of which is SELF CONTROL (Galatians 5:22-23) and only those led by the Holy Spirit are the sons of God (Romans 8:14)

satan is the purveyor of this message that Paul lived in sin... and was a dirty sinner who rejected the Lord and lived after the flesh... all while writing most of the New Testament. It's ludicrous and is another gospel and a fake jesus!


And for those who think that they're perfect now

I dropped my fork at dinner the other night so they proves I'm not perfect in the literal since.

That does NOT mean I don't have the self control of the Holy Spirit within to do the good that IO kn ow I should be doing... such as not getting drunk at dinner, or lusting after women on TV, not t6eaching the wisdom of men as though it were the wisdom of God, etc, etc.



In John 3:36 we read "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

That's a good Word!

It's also why some falsely claim Jesus' teachings were to the Jews and Christians are supposed to follow Paul

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.



I'm sad that so many Christians do not seem to know how to read a Bible. They quote verses out of context day in and day out. I'm beginning to think this kind of deception is done on purpose.


It is being done on purpose... it's the devil that is teaching his viewpoint (opposition to God's Word) thru false teachers.

God's Word warns us of false teachers and false teachings!

Matthew 24:4,5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

*Many includes those claiming "I am anointed" that are deceiving many (false teachers)

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

("depart from the faith" is not referring to sinners in the world who never came to faith in the first place)

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (see Luke 11:23 and 2 Peter 3:2)
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (holiness); (Doctrine of Christ, aka Doctrine of the Apostles)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil thoughts… Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)
(Deny = Strong's G0720… to contradict, disavow, reject, deny, refuse - and Strong's G4483… the idea of pouring forth, to utter, speak of or say, command)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who
separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)
 
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For me, that USED to be true... than, I got born again and became a New Creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) and now I have a primary orientation to the Lord Jesus!




No thank you.




I sure hope you get born again one day and escape the corruption that is in the world thru lust thru the Lord's exceeding great and precious promises (2 Peter 1:4)




And of course the reformation guys got it all wrong as usual.

They failed to go back to the whole counsel of God so they didn't reform anything actually.... they just brought forth more false doctrine that was different from catholic false doctrine along with the claim that they were superior to catholics.




That's their problem... Paul did not live a life of a sinner! The devil does desire to paint Pail in that light in order to trick Christians to think it's all good if they live in the flesh and do some sin. It's the devil that teaches we arell born sinners and cannot help but since everyday in thought word and deed! The devil benefits from this message!

No, Paul did what the New Testament teaches...

Colossians 3:5-9
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:


Ephesians 4:24
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Romans 13:14
But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Hebrews 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Romans 6:4-6
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.


Colossians 3:5,6
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

As these scripture references indicate, those not accepting the calling of the Lord to be led by the Holy Ghost into walking after the new man are in disobedience... which will NOT end well for those thinking they sin everyday unless they repent of their sin and get with the Lord's game plan!





This is a person that does not have the Holy Spirit in them and is not being led by the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit brings the fruit of the Spirit one of which is SELF CONTROL (Galatians 5:22-23) and only those led by the Holy Spirit are the sons of God (Romans 8:14)

satan is the purveyor of this message that Paul lived in sin... and was a dirty sinner who rejected the Lord and lived after the flesh... all while writing most of the New Testament. It's ludicrous and is another gospel and a fake jesus!




I dropped my fork at dinner the other night so they proves I'm not perfect in the literal since.

That does NOT mean I don't have the self control of the Holy Spirit within to do the good that IO kn ow I should be doing... such as not getting drunk at dinner, or lusting after women on TV, not t6eaching the wisdom of men as though it were the wisdom of God, etc, etc.





That's a good Word!

It's also why some falsely claim Jesus' teachings were to the Jews and Christians are supposed to follow Paul

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.






It is being done on purpose... it's the devil that is teaching his viewpoint (opposition to God's Word) thru false teachers.

God's Word warns us of false teachers and false teachings!

Matthew 24:4,5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

*Many includes those claiming "I am anointed" that are deceiving many (false teachers)

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

("depart from the faith" is not referring to sinners in the world who never came to faith in the first place)

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (see Luke 11:23 and 2 Peter 3:2)
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (holiness); (Doctrine of Christ, aka Doctrine of the Apostles)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil thoughts… Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)
(Deny = Strong's G0720… to contradict, disavow, reject, deny, refuse - and Strong's G4483… the idea of pouring forth, to utter, speak of or say, command)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who
separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)
How much more can a person pat themselves on the back?
 

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It's actually known as honoring the Word of the Lord because He is worthy of all praise and honor.

You should give it a try sometime! View attachment 39396
Nah,

I will not pat myself on the back. And then try to say I give credit to God.

Thats what the jews did. I try to learn from history, I try not to make the same mistakes
 

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Matthew 5:


1 Corinthians 10:


Theoretically, it is possible to live a sinless life. In practice, Romans 7:


By the grace of God, when we fail, we confess and repent. God will forgive. We can only take it one day at a time. Hopefully, our spiritual condition next year will be better this year.

1 John 3:


We are encouraged in Genesis 5:
Of course it is possible. We don't sin when we enter INTO Christ. In Him is no sin.
 

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The New Testament epistles have words like "remission of sins" and "sins may be blotted out" and "the forgiveness of sins" and "wash away thy sins" and "whose sins are covered" and "impute sin" and "are dead to sin" and "condemned sin in the flesh" and "take away their sins" and "Christ died for our sins" and "purged our sins..." The book of Romans begins talking about Jews and Gentiles being both under sin and this should not be anything new to us since both are still broken without the spirit of God. And yet for some mysterious reason I live on a planet where many Christians think their flesh is justified by the deeds of the law even after the book of Romans tells us plainly that everyone except the Christian is under sin (Romans 3:20 says Jews and Gentiles).

Romans tell us "sin is not imputed when there is no law" and "that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." And then there's verse 7 with "For he that is dead is freed from sin." I never understood Romans 6 because I was taught that I was a sinner saved by grace. Let's look at what Romans is saying: Christ died unto sin once and now he lives unto God. How are we who are still alive going to be able to likewise reckon ourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God? It seems to me it must be done through Jesus Christ our Lord. It's not about us or our broken selves. It's him we must function in. Here's the verse "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

It appears both Catholic and Protestant churches do not teach that "sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Nor do they teach "For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness." And so "Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." I'm going to skip over Romans 7 because it tells us right up at the top of the chapter that Paul is talking to those who are into or know the law. And then the context of the whole chapter is how we can see it's all about human's and how they toy with their flesh.

What Paul talks about in the seventh chapter of Romans is what occurs to the believer who still thinks the Law applies to them. They end up spiritually dying by the commandment and realize that the commandment does not produce life. The war is with their flesh because they are still believing the Law has power over them. In the eighth chapter of Romans is where it explains how we overcome this whole issue by living in the spirit and being dead to the Law. We cannot live by faith in what Christ has done for us and still think our obedience to written laws are necessary. To do so takes away from the perfect work of Christ and places salvation and righteousness back in our own hands. Romans 8 states "the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin..."

The verse in 2 Corinthians 5:21, is talking about the "righteousness of God in him." It's the "in him" that nobody seems to be able to understand. This whole thing functions "in him." It's in Christ and therefore in the new nature that is mentioned just a few verses above this in verse 17 where it says "new creature:" It's not that we do not sin in our old man nature. It's that we do not sin in the new man that we are told to put on. The churches have destroyed this idea by teaching we put on the new man by following the teachings of Jesus as we walk in our flesh. So this is a lost art.

In the book of Colossians, we read "putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:" We did not put it off. It was the circumcision of Christ. Two verses later we read "together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;..." Again, it's "in him" or "with him." I also want to get the book of Hebrews in here where we see Christ offered himself once "for this he did once" and not like the high priest who offered up the sacrifice daily. The Lord Christ "after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..."

Peter has the same mindset as Paul when he writes in 1 Peter "that we, being dead to sins,..." Peter goes on to say that Christ suffered once for sins so as to bring us to God, and so this is why the Scripture reads "being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" Again, the old man crucified and the new man put in its place. Peter again, "ceased from sin;..." Put that mindset on or as Peter writes "arm yourself likewise with the same mind:" Because he that has suffered in the flesh or was crucified in the flesh has put on the new man because the other one is dead. That new person "hath ceased from sin;..."
 

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Okay. So when do you see the "Born Again" process as happening in the life of a believer?

Do you see an interim state where a believer trusts Christ to save him/her, but is not yet "Born Again’?


Here…this is a mans working the work of God.

John 6:
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

That applies to a Believer.

Here…this is a man working A service unto God.

Rom 10:
[9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Belief…”God is WITH a man “as long as that man believes”.
That man “remains” in Belief by his own power, which means men can be “influenced” (by evil spirits, wicked men) to stop believing. That man WHO stops Believing is called, Having. Fallen from Faith.

Confession (expressly Confession from the Hearts Belief), “THEN” shall God search that mans Heart (ie natural spirit of man), AND IF that mans Confession BE TRUE, “THEN” is that mans soul SAVED, and natural spirit RE-BORN of Gods SEED….AND “KEPT” forever BY the Power of Gods Indwelling Spirit. IS WITH-IN Christ, IS Christ WITH-IN that ma….Called “IN” Christ, Born Again, Christ Church.
AKA…OSAS.

Glory to God.
God Bless You,

Taken
 

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Rom 12:
[1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
 

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Old enough to have a past and young enough to have a future.

However if you were expecting a number;
Mine is unlisted.

What else are you hiding besides your number?

When was the last time you confessed your sins?
1 John 1:9

English Standard Version
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 

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Rom 12:
[1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
When did you do the above?