Keiw
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Jesus humbled himself when he came among us. We need to look beyond that.
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1Cor 15:24-28 occurs after the 1000 year reign after Rev 20:7-10 is done. He is back in heaven for all of this.
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Jesus humbled himself when he came among us. We need to look beyond that.
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Who is the image of?
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Why do persons such as yourself come onto Christian forums and try to convince Christian persons that Jesus is not God?
What could be the purpose for this?
You could believe Jesus is not God,
but perhaps you should stop trying to convince others because it's not that you're trying to understand --
which would be OK...you're spreading heresy.
So you know what heresy is?
It's teaching that is not orthodox Christian teaching.
The early church had a special council for this very reason due to arianism.
Seems like arianism is back.
Jesus was the creator in the beginning. He was Jehovah God before he came among us.Living now to do Jesus Fathers will is important-Jesus said-only those will get to enter the kingdom-Matt 7:21--That will is--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God.
Huh?
This is for you and anyone else who cares to read it.
https://www.cru.org/us/en/train-and...istian-beliefs/understanding-the-trinity.html
Jesus was the creator in the beginning. He was Jehovah God before he came among us.
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When Jesus looked in a crystal clear pond and saw the Father's image, that can only mean one thing.Jesus is the Fathers image. The Father = YHWH(Jehovah)
LORD is found everywhere in the Old Testament, and Jesus is David's Lord and Good Shepherd. God is one.Psalm 110--YHWH( LORD) said to my Lord( Jesus) proves that is not truth. Only Jehovah is given-LORD all capitols. Jesus never did.
LORD doesnt even belong in the OT-YHWH does. It really reads ( YHWH)Jehovah said to my Lord( Jesus)
ha well Apollos waters so as much as i am tempted to agree with you, Yah apparently has a better idea :)The RCC is a total fraud
If the word 'GOD' in the centre said Jesus, then the words 'IS NOT' could be left out (God is not a 'was not') and it would read Jesus is FATHER (he was before he took on flesh) SON and HOLY SPIRIT. (The Creator is Spirit and Jesus was the WORD.)Not easy for us to understand. However, you are right - the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one in being but separate in persons.
Did you ever see this? (also for @Enoch111)
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If the word 'GOD' in the centre said Jesus, then the words 'IS NOT' could be left out (God is not a 'was not') and it would read Jesus is FATHER (he was before he took on flesh) SON and HOLY SPIRIT. (The Creator is Spirit and Jesus was the WORD.)
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When Jesus looked in a crystal clear pond and saw the Father's image, that can only mean one thing.
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LORD is found everywhere in the Old Testament, and Jesus is David's Lord and Good Shepherd. God is one.
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KJV?2Peter 2:2--loose conduct, would include other things as well besides fornication.
Do you not believe Jesus is the pre-incarnate WORD who created all things according to John chapter one?
I give up!!
You obviously have not had Paul's vision on the Damascus Road. He was a changed man.Men put LORD in the OT-God put YHWH in the OT. Men had no right removing it.
Thank you for confirming what I wrote earlier: Jesus is God's Son and one of the three persons of the Godhead. He is not and never will be God the Father.
You obviously have not had Paul's vision on the Damascus Road. He was a changed man.
I have never understood why Jews do not like the teaching of Paul, until now, and at last the penny has just dropped, to use an English expression.
Paul converted from Judaism to Christianity and preached/taught Jesus Christ. While Jesus was here with us, certain sects hated him and plotted against him. I get the impression they still feel the same way to this very day. So, being acutely aware that God is One, I modified my approach. The Bible tells us we are made in the image of God, and like Him, we are a tripartite person comprising body, soul, and spirit while being One person. Clearly we are not three persons, but being body, soul and spirit, we identify with the One true God in the same way.
So Cooper here, is one true person and although my body is not my soul, and my soul is not my spirit, I do not like being divided up into three pieces. I am one human being and the scriptures in my signature point to the One true God who created heaven and earth as being in heaven as the Word from the beginning of time, with us on earth having come down from heaven, and in our hearts. Thank you all for reading, and may God bless.
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Tell that to the Old Testament people about their Jewish god of one nation. Love and reason my foot. They stole from their parents and neither do I see you doing any reasoning.The image of God = the ability to love and reason.