Here is what it all comes down to—- and you’d better get it right!

[Grailhunter]

These words that you have spoken to me are a prime example of what bad religion and legalism breed... a "superior attitude". An attitude that I am good because I am way better than that drunk guy down the street.... and I am way better than that guy at the coffee shop covered in tattoos. Plus for a bonus... I'm way better than many of my brothers and sisters in Christ because well... I'm just so good.

Legalism = depending on self-will to be good... and the results are always hypocrisy and living in hidden sin. I've seen this so many times through out the years.

I do not enjoy being made to feel l am one step away from being pounced on. I walked away from my own family because I could not stomach being in their presence... they literally made me nauseous....

Spending the day in here yesterday gave me the same feeling...all the crocodiles just lying in wait for someone to attack.

It's disturbing to say the least... all the twisting of words... the endless accusations of abusing Grace... It's become old... and so repetitive... not to mention absolutely offensive.

Yesterday I placed Grailhunter on Ignore because I could not stomach reading any more of his twisted words.... and this morning... after receiving the above quote by you... I have decided that this is also where you belong.... The two of you together... can gloat about how good each of you is.

If the truth upsets you so much, you probably need to put the Bible on ignore. Considering what you and BB believe I think you have already done that. And there is no such thing as Christian legalism, just truth and it upset you.

You can call people moralists but that puts them in good company with Christ and the Apostles. Look at the lives of Christ and the Apostles...did it look like they were living the life of anything goes?

Oh ya twisting...the masters of twisting the scriptures, schemes to weave a religion of immorality and filth.

 

[BarneyFife]

The condition of eternal life is the same as it has always been: Perfect obedience to the commandments of God.

If it were not so, there would have been no need of a Saviour. :)

Matthew 19
16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Romans 3:31)

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Keep talking Einstein! When it comes to debating you are your own worst enemy! You prove I am right with every post.[/QUOTE


I live to serve....glad I can help you out!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

@Blood Bought 1953

You may well be a mature believer who is in right standing with God, but your rhetoric is poison for weak believers.

You should be mindful of the weak ones among us:

"For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ." (1 Corinthians 8:10-12)

Shall not the weak brother be emboldened to sin because of your hyperbole that perverts the gospel?

We have to “ put up with” weak Believers—-We Don’t have to let them run the Church...

 

[BarneyFife]

oops

 

[BloodBought 1953]

OSAS is a fool's dream. Boy oh boy are they going to be surprised when they are standing in front of Christ on Judgment Day!

This would make Jesus a Fool—— HE is the one that made the Promise that if you simply BELIEVED in Him, you ALREADY HAD Eternal Life and would NEVER come under Condemnation.....

I have YET to hear anybody argue against this Promise .....It seems that your crowd just wants to “ sweep it under the rug”....... why don’t YOU give it a shot .....explain how Jesus is not behind what you call a “Fool’s Dream”..... good luck!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

We have to “ put up with” weak Believers—-We Don’t have to let them run the Church...

"It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." (Romans 14:21)

"We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me." (Romans 15:1-3)

You are so woefully ignorant of Biblical principles that it’s sad.

 

[DPMartin]

Probably not.....I’ll let others be the judge....smart people “ get” me .....others? ......not so much.....I am posting to uncommon people .....you are not among them...feel free to ignore me....

no problem, ignoring nut job postings like yours is the smart thing to do.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Thanks for the offer but...I'm good thanks... I really don't even remember WHY I came into this thread... oh yeah... because you started it and one morning it was just me and Ferris in here... then all the wolves showed up... waiting to FEAST.

This topic offends me.. nauseates me and chokes me all at the same time... What people have done to the Gospel deeply grieves me.

I have placed 3 people on IGNORE... so.. I'll let you deal with them.... as for me... I will enjoy NOT seeing them.

I have FINALLY decided I want to be part of this community.... and contributing to topics such as these will only ensure that I will get banned due to the fact that I have no tolerance for arrogance.

Bless you my friend. I am out... Life is way too short.

Don’t let these “ Blind Guides” and hypocrites get to you ....to me it’s like water off a Duck’s back as far as their insults are concerned and their ignorance of the Things Of God make debating them like shooting fish in a barrel.....

I don’t even really talk to these guys—- I talk PAST them and just use their Biblical Ignorance as a “ Springboard” to defend the lost message of Paul and His Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing....

You are Of MUCH more value in here than you know.....I don’t think God Wants you to leave....Your wisdom needs to be shared with the Newbies.....somebody has to stand up for the True Gospel and destroy the Religion on display in here that can not LIVE Christianity but can only “ Ape” it —- imitating outward true Christian behavior without having the Indwelling Spirit That should be the Source Of it.....they force themselves to do what should come naturally as God Works in and Through a person.....God is looking for Spiritual FRUITION — NOT Spiritual Imitation....The difference is Heaven or Hell....

Lol....I got distracted....DONT LEAVE! Pray about it .....pray for a thicker hide....lol....God is on YOUR side—- NOT theirs ! “ If God be for us, who can be against us?”

 

[Addy]

@Blood Bought 1953 .... Not leaving the forums.... Just not going to partake in this topic anymore..
It takes me days to calm down... I just don't understand how people can enjoy stealing the promises
and JOY of each other and call themselves Christians. But then again... Christians shoot each other
all the time and leave the bodies for dead.

I have prayed about this... and I believe God wants me to spend time in other areas... Winter is coming
and I want to get involved in these forums via fellowship... NOT through ONE upmanship.

Be blessed @ BB... you know I love you.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

And unbelief is signified by a person living in sin, not struggling with it like a believer does. And the wages he earns for that sin he is living in is death.

David lived in sin.....he was doing just fine with his murderous and Adulteress life until Nathan called him out.....he had Repented of Nothing until he more or less “ had” to.....was he an Unbeliever during this time period ? David was as despicable as a man could be, yet he never lost his Salvation....he lost the JOY of his Salvation.....big difference....

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

David lived in sin.....he was doing just fine with his murderous and Adulteress life until Nathan called him out.....he had Repented of Nothing until he more or less “ had” to.....was he an Unbeliever during this time period ? David was as despicable as a man could be, yet he never lost his Salvation....he lost the JOY of his Salvation.....big difference....

Oh boy, here it comes. Some people just got hit with an air burst 50mt truth bomb.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

@Blood Bought 1953 .... Not leaving the forums.... Just not going to partake in this topic anymore..
It takes me days to calm down... I just don't understand how people can enjoy stealing the promises
and JOY of each other and call themselves Christians. But then again... Christians shoot each other
all the time and leave the bodies for dead.

I have prayed about this... and I believe God wants me to spend time in other areas... Winter is coming
and I want to get involved in these forums via fellowship... NOT through ONE upmanship.

Be blessed @ BB... you know I love you.

Do as God leads you....you will be of great value wherever you land....

You claim that “ winter is coming”...... lol...l know where you live.Winter never left.....lol....Tundra is like Rust—- it never sleeps.....hahahahahahahahahah.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

no problem, ignoring nut job postings like yours is the smart thing to do.

Thank you for your support! Something tells me you wouldn’t recognize “ the smart thing to do “ if it came up and bit you on the.....Er.....ahhh....posterior.....lol....

 

[Grailhunter]

This would make Jesus a Fool—— HE is the one that made the Promise that if you simply BELIEVED in Him, you ALREADY HAD Eternal Life and would NEVER come under Condemnation.....

I have YET to hear anybody argue against this Promise .....It seems that your crowd just wants to “ sweep it under the rug”....... why don’t YOU give it a shot .....explain how Jesus is not behind what you call a “Fool’s Dream”..... good luck!

No one that stands up against the heresy of OSAS is arguing against the promise. Christianity is a religion of morals and those that that preached the Gospel lived moral lives. You think you can play Christ for a fool, talk your way out of it on Judgment Day? I am not concerned about that. Just the souls that you lead astray and the lives you ruin. Christ and the Apostles did not condone sinful lifestyles. Christ and the Apostles and the whole Bible stands against you. The belief in Christ is not a license to sin and heaven will not be full of evil.

Be good and do good.

 

[jessiblue]

Your little jab at me has been noted.

I believe you must have misinterpreted my words. Perhaps you might read it again and “hear” it differently. Hope so. jb

 

[BloodBought 1953]

"It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." (Romans 14:21)

"We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me." (Romans 15:1-3)

You are so woefully ignorant of Biblical principles that it’s sad.

Boo Hoo .....

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Christianity is a religion of morals and those that that preached the Gospel lived moral lives.

And here I thought Christianity was about Jesus and the forgiveness of sin

You think you can play Christ for a fool, talk your way out of it on Judgment Day?

This is obviously news to you but believers (the saved) don't face the GWT

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Be good and do good.

Is that what you think will get you to Heaven? It sure “ sounds” good, doesn’t it? In fact , it “ tickles the ears” of the self- Righteous Religionist......it’s straight from Hell.It doesn’t take an “ Einstein” to figure it out....you just have to have God to “ open your heart” to the Truth Of The Gospel—- Nothing But The Blood for Salvation. Nothing.How nice not to be on the wrong side of “ that” argument!

“ Only GOD is Good”......

 

[marks]

Love for God is the Engine that drives Obedience.....

I think a new creature serves God. Faith that we are new allows us to live new.

Much love!