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Is Christ God?

  • God

    Votes: 32 78.0%
  • Lesser than God

    Votes: 7 17.1%
  • A mere Son/Man of God.

    Votes: 2 4.9%

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Johann

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You do realize a new age began? Jesus preexisted in the spirit and wisdom of God. When you read Genesis and see man created in their image what you have is the very picture of Christ. For he is the image of the invisible God. No man had ever witnessed this until the first century.

Use Scriptures to help me understand what you are getting at my brother.
J.
 

TLHKAJ

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If the beginning referenced was In the first century beginning with the first begotten of the Father, then yes.
That's a cop out. Those verses are referring directly to Creation. What's difficult to understand about the word "beginning"?

Revelation 1:8
[8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:8,11

[8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[11]Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Revelation 21:6
[6]And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:13
[13]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

The word translated "Almighty" is this.

Greek: παντοκράτωρ
Transliteration: pantokratōr
Pronunciation: pan-tok-rat'-ore
Definition: From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling that is God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty Omnipotent.
KJV Usage: Almighty (9x), omnipotent (1x).
Occurs: 10
In verses: 10


Notice, it means... "Almighty Omnipotent"; the "all-rulling God as absolute and universal sovereign." This is the Word of God!
 
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Use Scriptures to help me understand what you are getting at my brother.
J.
Colossians 1:15 KJV
[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Can you not see it, it all began with Jesus. First born?


When was he born?
 
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Johann

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That's a cop out. Those verses are referring directly to Creation. What's difficult to understand about the word "beginning"?

Revelation 1:8
[8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:8,11

[8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[11]Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Revelation 21:6
[6]And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:13
[13]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

The word translated "Almighty" is this.

Greek: παντοκράτωρ
Transliteration: pantokratōr
Pronunciation: pan-tok-rat'-ore
Definition: From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling that is God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty Omnipotent.
KJV Usage: Almighty (9x), omnipotent (1x).
Occurs: 10
In verses: 10


Notice, it means... "Almighty Omnipotent"; the "all-rulling God as absolute and universal sovereign." This is the Word of God!

Well done my fellow brother in Christ!
J.
 
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That's a cop out. Those verses are referring directly to Creation. What's difficult to understand about the word "beginning"?

Revelation 1:8
[8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:8,11

[8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[11]Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Revelation 21:6
[6]And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:13
[13]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

The word translated "Almighty" is this.

Greek: παντοκράτωρ
Transliteration: pantokratōr
Pronunciation: pan-tok-rat'-ore
Definition: From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling that is God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty Omnipotent.
KJV Usage: Almighty (9x), omnipotent (1x).
Occurs: 10
In verses: 10


Notice, it means... "Almighty Omnipotent"; the "all-rulling God as absolute and universal sovereign." This is the Word of God!
Too much earth, it’s sensual and devilish.
 

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Prior to Jesus there was only procreation. No man was created of God. Anyone who says otherwise is saying Jesus wasn’t the first born of all creation. I don’t see why this is so hard to understand. We would have to deny almost the total New Testament to hold this view.