Do you believe this is...

[Behold]

Sorry Behold I dont understand your words here.

Ok.

Well, its like this.
You posted that Angels never sin, and that in Heaven, there is no such thing as any of that Happening.

Yet it DID.

Satan, was LUCIFER an "anointed CHERUB"... in HEAVEN.
This is a higher CLASS of Angelic Being....., and He REBELLED while IN Heaven, and "iniquity was found in HIM">..
Jesus said that when Lucifer was in Heaven, His heart became so "lifted up... so PRIDE FILLED" that utter darkness became His nature and Jesus then described Lucifer as a "Murderer from the Beginning" and "the Father of LIES".

"The beginning" does not mean that God created Him as a murderer and a liar.
"The beginning", is a reference to the initial start of the Fall of Lucifer into INNER INIQUITY that was catastrophic.

And, He deceived 30% of the ANGLES, the common class, lower class, and they bowed their knee and became of His Nature..
Adam and Eve did the same.

"this is the FALL of Man", and Adam's fall, is the fall of us all.

ALL of these "heavenly host" were "cast out of Heaven". = Lucifer and the Angels who followed Him.

 

[face2face]

Ok.

Well, its like this.
You posted that Angels never sin, and that in Heaven, there is no such thing as any of that Happening.

Yet it DID.

Satan, was LUCIFER an "anointed CHERUB"... in HEAVEN.

You sadly do not understand that section of Scripture and be honest do you want to learn?
F2F

 

[Behold]

You sadly do not understand that section of Scripture and be honest do you want to learn?
F2F

You had no idea that Lucifer and the angels "fell" from Heaven.

So, its time you retired your cult theology. @face2face
A better idea is to leave your cult., asap.

Learn that.

 

[face2face]

You had no idea that Lucifer and the angels "fell" from Heaven.

So, its time you retired your cult theology. @face2face
A better idea is to leave your cult., asap.

Learn that.

I'll take that as a "no", you are not interested in learning what Ezekiel 28 is actually teaching.

Enjoy your day
F2F

 

[Behold]

I'll take that as a "no", you are not interested in learning what Ezekiel 28 is actually teaching.

Enjoy your day
F2F

Here is what we can do.

If you have a bible, and you study : Galatians 1:8, and find out who Paul is describing, and what they are doing... then, we can pursue your "Angels".

Let me show you this also..

Regarding the "Heavenly Host".....you have "Cherubs"... and Lucifer was one of those.
Now, let me show you where you can find 2 of them..

Notice these 2..

This is Lucifer's "Class".
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[MA2444]

So you retract your earlier statement?

I dont retract anything.

WIll you answer my questions now or not?

Is there anything in scriptuure that you do believe?

Have you ever asked the Holy Spirit to give you revelation about the word before you read it? Have you ever received a Rhema from God?

 

[face2face]

I dont retract anything.

How can you receive?

 

[MA2444]

You sadly do not understand that section of Scripture and be honest do you want to learn?
F2F

You are not teachable at all. She gave you good info and you totally ignored all of it. Nothing you have said in this thread has made any sense whatsoever.

That sorta does answer my question to you...you do not believe the bible and you dont read it, and you wont talk about asking for Holy Spirit's help understanding it because you dont want to say that you dont read it. And when us Christians provide you with scriptural truths you just make something up and talk crap back off the cuff. What's that for? That's the behavior of a Troll.

Why are you here? To confound weak christians and cause them distraction alone, simply for your amusement? (Cuz you sure aint shifted any strong Christian's faith or understanding with this thread of yours, lol!)

I tell you what, since you are some purported heavy duty Christian Professor which knows all things and everyone else is stupid.....Oh, Brother, I can't wait to hear your Testimony of how you came to the Lord! Will you tell us your Testimony so we can share in your Praises to God also?! Come on Brother, let's hear your Testimony! Please.....

Want to hear my Testimony? Brother, I have more good Testimonies about the Lord than I can count. We can trade Testimonies all night. So come on with your pious self!

You purport yourself to be so knowledgable about the Lord and His Word that, certainly He has given you many great revelations. We want to hear about them!

 

[MA2444]

How can you receive?

Did Jesus the Christ come in the flesh to die on earth and was He raised again?

WIll you answer my questions now or not?

Is there anything in scriptuure that you do believe?

Have you ever asked the Holy Spirit to give you revelation about the word before you read it? Have you ever received a Rhema from God?

 

[MA2444]

How can you receive?

I tell you what, since you are some purported heavy duty Christian Professor which knows all things and everyone else is stupid.....Oh, Brother, I can't wait to hear your Testimony of how you came to the Lord! Will you tell us your Testimony so we can share in your Praises to God also?! Come on Brother, let's hear your Testimony! Please.....

I want to hear about your Faith in God! Here's a scripture for you to poder while you think about which aspect of it to speak of...

1 Peter 3:15-16
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.../KJV

I am asking Brother, from wherein is your Faith and hope in God? Tell us Brothers & Sisters about it lest we begin speaking evil of you. Do with with meekness and fear for the Lord's sake.

 

[face2face]

You are not teachable at all. She gave you good info and you totally ignored all of it. Nothing you have said in this thread has made any sense whatsoever.

The questions presented have been totally ignored, which is why these repetitive posts making false claims about Ezek 28; Isaiah 14 etc has seen no engagement on their part.

Put simply its not that they don't want to learn they cant even enter a discussion.

Go back and see the record as say it isn't so!

That sorta does answer my question to you...you do not believe the bible and you dont read it, and you wont talk about asking for Holy Spirit's help understanding it because you dont want to say that you dont read it. And when us Christians provide you with scriptural truths you just make something up and talk crap back off the cuff. What's that for? That's the behavior of a Troll.

This is all puff and wind MA...these are statements made from one who is out of their depth on a subject they themselves have not tested.

All I can suggest is you go away and search the Word for yourself - put in the time and labour to rightly divide it and if your Holy Spirit reveals its truth return with joy in your heart.

F2F

 

[face2face]

Did Jesus the Christ come in the flesh to die on earth and was He raised again?

WIll you answer my questions now or not?

Is there anything in scriptuure that you do believe?

Have you ever asked the Holy Spirit to give you revelation about the word before you read it? Have you ever received a Rhema from God?

Just more avoidance tactics on your part...maybe its time to move to another thread? This OP is proving Angels cant sin and has done so to date.
F2F

 

[face2face]

I want to hear about your Faith in God! Here's a scripture for you to poder while you think about which aspect of it to speak of...

1 Peter 3:15-16
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.../KJV

I am asking Brother, from wherein is your Faith and hope in God? Tell us Brothers & Sisters about it lest we begin speaking evil of you. Do with with meekness and fear for the Lord's sake.

Can you see the irony here MA?

Go back and see how many questions I have asked and the opportunity for you and others to give an answer?

The Word can often become a witness against you and this is a case in point.

F2F

 

[MA2444]

How can you receive?

That is actually a fair question, notwithstanding that you said it as a dodge so you wouldnt have to answer a question!

Nevertheless, I receive different ways, and they're both related to the word of God.

Romans 10:17
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.../KJV

Now the word "word" of God in this verse translates to the spoken word of God:

Rhema

G4487 - rēma - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G4487 - ῥῆμα rhēma, hray'-mah; from ; an utterance (individually, collectively or specially),; by implication, a matter or topic (especially of narration, command or dispute); with a negative naught whatever:— evil, nothing, saying, word.

www.blueletterbible.org

Now everybody knows that the Bible is the written word of God, the Logos.

Hebrews 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.../KJV

In this verse the word "word" is translated from Logos, the written word.

G3056 - logos - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G3056 - λόγος lógos, log'-os; from ; something said (including the thought); by implication, a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specially, (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):—account, cause...

www.blueletterbible.org

But when you read about Logos, it still talks a lot about speech and it having been said by mouth. So this is easy, God spoke the words, and then people wrote them down, and we got instructed to...search the scriptures daily and study to show thyself approved, and so forth.

So I read the word, and the Holy Spirit begins to speak and to give me understanding. So it turns into a Rhema that is delivered by the Holy Spirit. The book isnt magic, the Holy Spirit is! That's how I receive. (After I got used to hearing His voice, He speaks to me at other times also even when I am not reading the bible.

So if you only receive through the bible and ignore the Spirit, you will be wrong.
If you only acknowledge the Spirit and neglect the bible, you will be wrong.

Remember! As you read the Bible, your Bible reads you!
But you wouldnt know that!

 

[MA2444]

Just more avoidance tactics on your part...maybe its time to move to another thread? This OP is proving Angels cant sin and has done so to date.
F2F

WOW...That told me a Lot!

He would not answer that question ! I just tested your spirit brother, and you failed the test.

Liar.

 

[face2face]

So if you only receive through the bible and ignore the Spirit, you will be wrong.
If you only acknowledge the Spirit and neglect the bible, you will be wrong.

This was a good post for the most. We might differ on how the Spirit is received but needless to say without it you cannot know truth.

Looking forward to you discussing the OP...if you get around to it.

F2F

 

[face2face]

WOW...That told me a Lot!

He would not answer that question ! I ust tested your spirit brother, and you failed the test.

Liar.

More fluff...the evidence has been presented in many posts - go back a pick one and talk to it - open the Word and see if these things are not so.

If you are struggling take on the Luke 10:18 interaction I'm having with Wrangler which is still sitting there unattended.

F2F

 

[MA2444]

Can you see the irony here MA?

Go back and see how many questions I have asked and the opportunity for you and others to give an answer?

The Word can often become a witness against you and this is a case in point.

F2F

Dont try to project your iniquity onto me. Even now, this post of yours, your spirit which is not of God would not answer that exact question, he is unable to answer that in the affirmative. So a little dodge, some word shuffle/projection, tada! It's my fault and I am wrong, lol!

Your words alone speak witness against you here. Christian Brothers & Sisters answer questions in certain ways and you do not answer in the same ways that other real Christians do.

You wont tell us about your faith either, lol. Because you havent got any, your a Troll.

 

[MA2444]

This was a good post for the most. We might differ on how the Spirit is received but needless to say without it you cannot know truth.

Looking forward to you discussing the OP...if you get around to it.

F2F

Don't change the subject on me boy. Tell me about how it differs when the spirit is received by you!

Dont be a punk. Try to make at least one good post for once, geez.

 

[MA2444]

The questions presented have been totally ignored, which is why these repetitive posts making false claims about Ezek 28; Isaiah 14 etc has seen no engagement on their part.

Put simply its not that they don't want to learn they cant even enter a discussion.

Go back and see the record as say it isn't so!

It isnt so.

This is more projection on your part. Let's go talk about something inane that I said and that'll keep you busy for awhile...hehehe. Troll. Dont be obtuse it makes you look like a punk kid. Why wont you enter a discussion! WHy do YOU dodge all questions?

Your OP is Tripe. The Bible clearly tells the story about when Lucifer developed Pride and got himself booted out. And the only people who dont know that is the people who are too stupid to pick up their bible and read it for themselves!

Nuff said on that, lol. Do we get to hear your Testimony boy?

Hahahaha, I already know the answer to that one.