Worship of Christ

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,346
4,651
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
No. I'm saying defending the Bible IS an apology. Did you not read the definition?

An apology, a defense is different from being argumentative. Again from Merriam

ar·gu·men·ta·tive ˌär-gyə-ˈmen-tə-tiv

variants or less commonly argumentive
ˌär-gyə-ˈmen-tiv
Synonyms of argumentative
1
: given to argument : tending to argue : having or showing a tendency to disagree or argue with other people in an angry way

Using politics again as an example. I apologize for Trump and MAGA, which means I acknowledge there may be arguments against him but the arguments in his favor outweigh the negative. This is a humble apology.

Today, we are dumbed down as a society and make such humble apologies less and less. On all topics - including religion and politics - we take the polar position that there is not one single argument against my position, all the facts line up on my side. This is not humble.

Deepak Chopra wrote a book called the 7 Laws of Spiritual Success. One law is the Law of Defenselessness. What it means is to gain all kinds of energy and time by NOT defending what is not important to you. In this case, the facts against our position. Those who criticize the Bible, for instance, I can simultaneously acquiesce to their criticisms while also holding the Bible is the world of God that we should live our lives by.

In other words, it's application of don't resist evil. We don't have to have an answer to every question or critique and this is very freeing and liberates us spiritually. I hope you take all this into consideration in your next apology.
I always consider what the Bible says first. I quit listening to opinions decades ago. Bible always overrules opinions!
 

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,346
4,651
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Self-righteousness is in that post, my friend. You "try" too hard. You know the verse about shaking the dust off your feet?
Why does the Bible upset you so that you attack Bible believers? Is there anything you believe in the Bible to be God's written Word?
 

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
18,106
7,480
113
56
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Why does the Bible upset you so that you attack Bible believers? Is there anything you believe in the Bible to be God's written Word?
LOL. It is not the Bible that upsets me. It's you that upsets me. You're not maturing in your spiritual walk like @Ritajanice is. Humility is the first spiritual virtue. Try it someday. Let me know the results. hmn
 
  • Love
Reactions: Ritajanice

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,346
4,651
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
LOL. It is not the Bible that upsets me. It's you that upsets me. You're not maturing in your spiritual walk like @Ritajanice is. Humility is the first spiritual virtue. Try it someday. Let me know the results. hmn
It's clearly the Bible I quote that upsets you both. She clearly defended JW's and you defend her, so you are defending JW's who attack our Bible like Satan!
 

Ritajanice

Born-Again
Mar 9, 2023
12,682
7,262
113
United Kingdom
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom

Amen about “ humility “ @Wrangler ...my control and pride kept me from getting closer to God......God hates pride as we well know!...holding onto pride stops us from growing spiritually.​

Also.​

John 15:5​

King James Version​

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.​


@Aunty Jane ...she has taught me a lot about Jesus .how he was sent to do the will of his Father whom he adored......even though we aren’t of the same faith/ belief....we respect what the other believes....

A Born Again should glorify the Father and not the self......how can we glorify God, when we start throwing insults at JWS.....etc...start getting personal....that’s all about self.its not Godly...being a child of God is all about learning in the Spirit not the flesh.....Praise God that we have Jesus as our perfect Brother and teacher....anyway..back to topic..
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Wrangler

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
18,106
7,480
113
56
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
A Born Again should glorify the Father and not the self......how can we glorify God, when we start throwing insults at JWS.....etc...start getting personal....that’s all about self.its not Godly...being a child of God is all about learning in the Spirit not the flesh.....
Amen! And Amen.
 
  • Love
Reactions: Ritajanice

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,346
4,651
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Defending JW's is a clear ATTACK on the Christian Bible and the CYB statement of Faith!
 

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,346
4,651
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Why do you feel so attacked when people express their opinion with facts to support it? The truth is true regardless of what one believes, yes?
The Bible is Truth. Give us some Bible and stop attacking Bible believers!
 

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,346
4,651
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way.
Biblical love is believing God of the Bible and defending and obeying His Word!