Anti- Christian Crusade.

[River Jordan]

Of course, we do.
We see Christians refusing to support those greedy televangelists. Why aren't you making a big deal out of me saying that I will not send them money, or buy their merchandise?
We see Christians refusing to support gluttony. I told you about my chubby friend, and how we have stopped hanging around each other, because we contribute to each other's gluttony...why aren't you ranting about that?

If Christians aren't sending money to greedy televangelists, how are they raking in millions? And when was the first or last time you saw a Christian church refuse to allow gluttons in their congregations?

I notice you did not address my post where I said, if I owned a gun shop and a customer came in and told me he wanted a gun to shoot his wife with, I would refuse to sell him one....of course, it was not addressed to you directly, but it is an open forum. You aren't fussing at me for "discriminating" against this guy. Why?
Suppose it's an adult who wants to use my photography studio to take pornographic pictures of kids? Would it be okay to turn him down?
It seems to me that it is not "Conservative Christians" who are singling out one sin....looks a bit like at least one Liberal is guilty of this.

Sorry, but that doesn't even make sense.

I don't know of any who are.
Frankly, I'd rather not know.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

All I did was buy meat.

And all a baker does is sell a cake.

That, my girl, is a judgment call that you have no right to make.
God will judge my motives.

Nice try.

I don't ask about it.

Ignorance is bliss.

I do not willingly have to do with any of these things, and I sure do not contribute to any of them.

If having financial transactions with sinners = "supporting sin", then I guarantee you do. But as you describe, you prefer to remain ignorant of what sins you are supporting.

 

[StanJ]

But we are not talking about whether or not it would be okay for me to marry a lesbian, or insist that a Christian baker bake a cake for my lesbian wedding, are we?
We aren't even talking about whether or not it would be okay for me to buy a wedding cake for my straight wedding in the same store as the lesbians bought their gay wedding cake from.

What we are talking about is whether or not it is ok for me to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding. Once I do that, I have become directly involved in the wedding, and thus, the sin.

Suppose I own a gun shop. A customer comes in and tells me he wants to shoot his wife. Should I sell him the gun? Why or why not?

Well YOU brought up the baker, and now you bring up marrying a lesbian, so I have NO idea what you are talking about or why you keep running down these rabbit trails?
YOU are talking about it, and trying to justify your hypothetical response, which I fail to understand why, given it is NOT a real issue with you. If you want to pick and choose your clients in a bake shop I suggest you don't open it in an area where you will be frequented by a lot of gay people, which seems logical for any new business contemplation to identify their target population and got there, but then again all these hypotheticals are just that, and have no reality in real life.

The last scenario is about the most ludicrous you have presented so far, in your effort to justify your biased POV.

 

[StanJ]

Your criticism is just plain ridiculous.

That of course would be up to the majority view here....so would you like to test your opinion?
Oh and BTW, please have the courtesy to respond directly to my posts and not shove them in OUT of context.

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

Well Stan, 1. I was not addressing you, 2. my opinion is not up to any demoncratic test of the majority, and 3. her criticism that only homosexuality is singles out is belied by Barrd's refusal to aid and abet murder, theft, and adultery.

So her criticism IS ridiculous.

 

[StanJ]

Well Stan, 1. I was not addressing you, 2. my opinion is not up to any demoncratic test of the majority, and 3. her criticism that only homosexuality is singles out is belied by Barrd's refusal to aid and abet murder, theft, and adultery.

So her criticism IS ridiculous.

All the more reason to be CLEAR as to whom you are addressing, and regardless as to whether it was addressed at me or not, my points still stand. As to 3, you can take that up with her.

 

[Barrd]

If Christians aren't sending money to greedy televangelists, how are they raking in millions? And when was the first or last time you saw a Christian church refuse to allow gluttons in their congregations?

Wait...so now you want me to take responsibility not only for what I do or do not do, but for what other Christians do or do not do?
Yes, there are gullible fools who will send money to greedy televangelists. They'll spend $50 and more on silly little knick knacks they could pick up for few bucks at the Dollar Store. I know of one woman who sent one of these guys her wedding rings. Needless to say, her husband was less than pleased. Yes, there are gluttons on the Christian church. There are sinners of every stripe in the church. Where else can they find the help and the strength that they need to fight against their sin?

You do know that there are Christian churches who not only allow homosexuals but who ordain them as pastors? Have you read God's criteria for being a Deacon? Do you think He has a lesser standard for His Shepherds? I seriously doubt it.
I believe we should allow homosexuals to come to church, and gluttons, and all the rest of it, because the church gives them accountability. These people need to repent...they need to turn from their sin and, with God's help, put it out of their lives. That is what the church is for......a sort of hospital for the wounded. But I do not think the church should condone sin.

Sorry, but that doesn't even make sense.

I've told you and Marcus has told you, over and over again that we do not single out just this one sin, yet you keep harping on it.
It is not me or Marcus who is "singling out gays". It is you.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

So, you would rather I did question people about their sexual preferences?
I mean, make up your mind, Lady.

And all a baker does is sell a cake.

So, leave him alone and let him sell it to whom he will, and there will be no more problem.

Nice try.

Do you really think your judgment matters to me?
You did not die for me. You cannot get me into heavenl

Ignorance is bliss.

So, you condemn those who do ask, but when I say I'd rather not know, you call me ignorant.
No, I won't go for the cheap retort....I'm beginning to have more pity for you than frustration. You do seem confused, poor kid.

If having financial transactions with sinners = "supporting sin", then I guarantee you do. But as you describe, you prefer to remain ignorant of what sins you are supporting.

Have you not heard....we are to be in the world, but not of the world.
I'm a stranger here, just passing through, on my way Home. I am sent here to help spread the message....the chains of sin and death have been broken!
And if the Son shall set you free, then are you free, indeed..

 

[Barrd]

That of course would be up to the majority view here....so would you like to test your opinion?
Oh and BTW, please have the courtesy to respond directly to my posts and not shove them in OUT of context.

I don't know how often I've said this.
If you are following a crowd, Stan, you are going the wrong way.

I get accused of not agreeing with the majority quite a bit, and it's fine with me.
By that, I know that I am not on that broad, well-traveled highway...
I prefer the road less traveled...

 

[Barrd]

Well Stan, 1. I was not addressing you, 2. my opinion is not up to any demoncratic test of the majority, and 3. her criticism that only homosexuality is singles out is belied by Barrd's refusal to aid and abet murder, theft, and adultery.

So her criticism IS ridiculous.

But it is nice to know that there are a few others on this road...
Just passing through, Marcus? Home is not far...we just need to keep following that Jewish Carpenter...He knows the Way...

 

[StanJ]

I don't know how often I've said this.
If you are following a crowd, Stan, you are going the wrong way.

I get accused of not agreeing with the majority quite a bit, and it's fine with me.
By that, I know that I am not on that broad, well-traveled highway...
I prefer the road less traveled...

I guess that depends on what you interpret a crowd to be in the context of those that have already taken the narrow gate?
IMO, a consensus is a majority and in Christianity, the consensus is usually true.

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

Hardly a consensus of Christians in such a small population. What do we have here? 3:2?

Homosexuality is morally wrong and a sin.
Marriage is between a man and a woman and has been since God instituted it with Adam and Eve - his WIFE.

 

[Barrd]

I guess that depends on what you interpret a crowd to be in the context of those that have already taken the narrow gate?
IMO, a consensus is a majority and in Christianity, the consensus is usually true.

First of all, define for me "those that have already taken the narrow gate."
I seem to recall reading that Jesus said that He is the Way, and the Truth and the Life, and that no man could come to the Father except through Him.
His sheep know His voice, and He knows them. They follow Him and they will not hear the voice of some stranger.
Doesn't your Bible tell you these things?
Now, you and I both know that Jesus is God, our Immanuel, don't we? We have agreed upon that, yes?
And we both know that God has forbidden homosexuality, right? He has said that it is an abomination, and that those who do such things, or who take pleasure in those who do them, will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
And didn't Jesus, Who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, also tell us that if we love Him, we will obey His commandments?
So, if you tell me that the majority of "Christians" believe that we should accommodate sin, then I have to conclude that the majority of "Christians" are not among "those who have already taken the narrow gate."
Of course, it is possible that we do not have the same definition of the term "Christian".
To me, it means one who follows Jesus Christ, putting Him before any and every other facet of his or her life. Christianity is not just something that they do in church...it is their way of life. If you are not a Christian every single day, in your family life, in your business, in your friendships, and yes, in your politics, then it doesn't matter what you do on Sunday. As has been said, sitting in a pew on Sunday doesn't make you a Christian any more than sitting in a garage makes you an automobile. You either belong to Jesus 24-7, or you do not belong to Jesus at all.

Didn't Jesus say that the way to Life was a narrow road, and there would be few who would find it?
So, again, I say....if you are following a crowd....even if it is a crowd of "Christians"....you are going the wrong way.

Follow Jesus, my friend. Only He can lead you Home.

 

[Barrd]

Hardly a consensus of Christians in such a small population. What do we have here? 3:2?

Homosexuality is morally wrong and a sin.
Marriage is between a man and a woman and has been since God instituted it with Adam and Eve - his WIFE.

I think 3:2 is about right.
We are grossly outnumbered, Marcus!

 

[mjrhealth]

God has forbidden homosexuality, right?

No homosexultiy is sin like al lother sin, its just that some love to push the fact that they are somehow better than them. Guess waht in the eyes of God we are "ALL" sinners unless we come to Christ They are no different to you, God is no respector of persons. But you simply dont want to understand,

Luk 18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

You should be so glad that you do not have to go through what they do.

If you truly new Christ than you would know that you are no better than anyone, even hitler or stalin.

 

[River Jordan]

Wait...so now you want me to take responsibility not only for what I do or do not do, but for what other Christians do or do not do?

Well how convenient for you. When your fellow right-wing Christians do things you like (discriminate against gays), you're all one big family and you champion their cause. When they do stupid things (support the money changers in the church), suddenly you don't have anything to do with them.

Yes, there are gluttons on the Christian church. There are sinners of every stripe in the church. Where else can they find the help and the strength that they need to fight against their sin?

Would your Christian community allow a gay to join?

You do know that there are Christian churches who not only allow homosexuals but who ordain them as pastors? Have you read God's criteria for being a Deacon? Do you think He has a lesser standard for His Shepherds? I seriously doubt it.

You do know that there are Christian churches who not only allow gluttons but who ordain them as pastors? Huh. <_<

I believe we should allow homosexuals to come to church, and gluttons, and all the rest of it, because the church gives them accountability. These people need to repent...they need to turn from their sin and, with God's help, put it out of their lives. That is what the church is for......a sort of hospital for the wounded. But I do not think the church should condone sin.

And how would that work exactly?

I've told you and Marcus has told you, over and over again that we do not single out just this one sin, yet you keep harping on it.

Yes you do. This thread is ample evidence of that.

It is not me or Marcus who is "singling out gays". It is you.

LOL. Nice try.

So, you would rather I did question people about their sexual preferences?
I mean, make up your mind, Lady.

Again you miss the point entirely. You think Christians shouldn't support sin in their business and financial transactions, but only one sin (homosexuality) is worth even asking about.

So, leave him alone and let him sell it to whom he will, and there will be no more problem.

Except for the citizens who he discriminates against. But they don't seem to concern you.

So, you condemn those who do ask, but when I say I'd rather not know, you call me ignorant.

Apparently recognizing your own double standard is beyond your abilities.

Have you not heard....we are to be in the world, but not of the world.
I'm a stranger here, just passing through, on my way Home. I am sent here to help spread the message....the chains of sin and death have been broken!
And if the Son shall set you free, then are you free, indeed..

Way to dodge the point....yet again.

 

[Barrd]

Well how convenient for you. When your fellow right-wing Christians do things you like (discriminate against gays), you're all one big family and you champion their cause. When they do stupid things (support the money changers in the church), suddenly you don't have anything to do with them.

Apparently you do hold me responsible for the things other Christians do or don't do.
Dear one, everyone who knows me knows my feelings toward the money changers in the church. I actually got up and walked out of the church I was a member of at the time, over this very issue...there was a shortage of funds to buy literature for the children's Sunday School, and while we were discussing what might be cut to provide the needed funds, our overpaid pastor stood up and said "Well, it isn't coming out of my salary."
I was the only one to walk out on him...and I have not looked back.
So, you have it quite backwards, my dear.

Would your Christian community allow a gay to join?

They allowed me to bring my nephew Scottie, while he was still "flaming" and had no intention of changing. He did have enough respect to dress decently and not to bring any of his boyfriends along, so that did help, but he was quite open about his sexuality....indeed, he was a bit belligerent about it.
However, they prayed with me, and eventually with him.
Scottie is living proof that it is possible for a gay man to find happiness with a female wife. Today, he is the proud grandfather of a gorgeous baby girl, the first child of the eldest of three daughters. He and his wife are ecstatically in love, and he will tell you that he is happier than he ever was when he was gay.
It took someone to love him enough to tell him the truth, and patiently and lovingly help him to find his way out of his confusion. There were actually times when Scottie actually asked me to lock him into his bedroom to keep him from going back. The first few times I did....but then the day came when I refused. It was time for my toddler to walk on his own...
I am so thankful for my Christian brothers and sisters who stood with us while we worked together to beat the demon...

You do know that there are Christian churches who not only allow gluttons but who ordain them as pastors? Huh. <_<

God doesn't seem to have a problem with a fat Bishop. Huh.

1Ti 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

He does have a requirement that His Shepherds be "given to hospitality". Wouldn't that include food?

And how would that work exactly?

You are a Christian, and you don't know how repentance works?

Yes you do. This thread is ample evidence of that.

You need to go back and read the OP. This thread is about the War on Christianity. This nonsense over homosexual marriage is only one small facet of that.

LOL. Nice try.

Marcus and I have both told you repeatedly that we are against all sin.

Again you miss the point entirely. You think Christians shouldn't support sin in their business and financial transactions, but only one sin (homosexuality) is worth even asking about.

I don't ask. I will sell you a book whether you are straight, gay, or whatever.

Except for the citizens who he discriminates against. But they don't seem to concern you.

They concern me in the same way all sinners concern me.
I take after my Father...I am not willing that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Apparently recognizing your own double standard is beyond your abilities.

Apparently recognizing the eternal consequences of sin is beyond yours.

Way to dodge the point....yet again.

The point being that we live in a sinful world.
What you don't seem to understand is that it is not our job to indulge sin, but rather to shine the Light of God into the dark corners where it lurks.
It is our job to preserve what is good in our world, not to encourage yet more corruption.

 

[River Jordan]

Apparently you do hold me responsible for the things other Christians do or don't do.

No, just pointing out your convenient double standards. When right-wing Christians do things you approve of, you're a member of their team. When they do things you don't approve of, you say "I'm not responsible".

They allowed me to bring my nephew Scottie, while he was still "flaming" and had no intention of changing.

Your story shows why attitudes about gays are changing. It's easy to refer to gays as diseased, predatory child-rapists (as you have), and support making them second-class citizens when they're a faceless, anonymous group....."the gays". But when it's actually someone you know, suddenly they're deserving of love, respect, and patience.

And notice in your story how your nephew wasn't changed by treating him like a second-class citizen, calling him names, shunning him, or telling him he's a diseased child-rapist, all things you have advocated in this thread. Instead, it was love that ruled the day. Huh. <_<

I wonder if you see the disconnect between your rhetoric about "the gays" and how you treated a gay person you actually knew?

God doesn't seem to have a problem with a fat Bishop. Huh.

Again we see how apologetic you are when it comes to sins that aren't homosexuality.

You are a Christian, and you don't know how repentance works?

You dodged the point yet again. Seems to be a pattern with you.

This thread is about the War on Christianity. This nonsense over homosexual marriage is only one small facet of that.

How? Gays can be legally married. How is that a war on Christianity?

I don't ask. I will sell you a book whether you are straight, gay, or whatever.

Then you do support sin in your financial and business transactions. You just choose to remain ignorant of it.

They concern me in the same way all sinners concern me.

Your posts in this thread show otherwise.

Apparently recognizing the eternal consequences of sin is beyond yours.

How so? (I predict you'll evade this as you have before)

What you don't seem to understand is that it is not our job to indulge sin

Is it our job to single out one sin from all the others, and ask the other party in every financial and business transaction we have, "Are you guilty of this sin"?

but rather to shine the Light of God into the dark corners where it lurks.
It is our job to preserve what is good in our world, not to encourage yet more corruption.

Then why don't you ask when you sell books, to make sure your business dealings are encouraging more sin?

 

[Barrd]

No, just pointing out your convenient double standards. When right-wing Christians do things you approve of, you're a member of their team. When they do things you don't approve of, you say "I'm not responsible".

I'm a member of God's team.
He will deal with each one of us in His own time. The only Christian I am responsible for is me.

Your story shows why attitudes about gays are changing. It's easy to refer to gays as diseased, predatory child-rapists (as you have), and support making them second-class citizens when they're a faceless, anonymous group....."the gays". But when it's actually someone you know, suddenly they're deserving of love, respect, and patience.

Do you think that I did not point out to Scottie that homosexuality is a perversion, just like pedophilia, or any other sexual perversion.
Indeed, that was one of the things that got him to thinking.
He also tried that line on me about how "animals do it, so it is natural"....and we discussed some of the other sexual behaviors of animals, including the fact that they will mate with their own offspring.
Do you think that I did not tell him all of these things? You'd be very wrong, my girl. You do not know me, and yet you repeatedly try to tell me what I will or will not do.

And notice in your story how your nephew wasn't changed by treating him like a second-class citizen, calling him names, shunning him, or telling him he's a diseased child-rapist, all things you have advocated in this thread. Instead, it was love that ruled the day. Huh. <_<

It is always love that rules the day, my dear girl. That is why I keep telling you...if you love these people, you will tell them the truth.
And don't think I did not tell Scottie that, while he was in my house, there would be no "gay sex", and he was not to come into my part of the house or get near my kids until I had him to the doctor and could be sure that he was not infected...
During the first few months that he stayed with me, he stayed in his room, and didn't even eat with us. He had his own bathroom, and he had orders to clean it every day with Clorox.
I was pretty rough on him, but it was necessary.
And today, he thanks me for every bit of it. Although, at the time, he hated me with a passion, and told me so. I just smiled and told him the same thing I have told you....that the world had also hated Jesus.
Sometimes, love does have to be tough...

I wonder if you see the disconnect between your rhetoric about "the gays" and how you treated a gay person you actually knew?

There isn't any "disconnect". Scottie isn't the only gay person I know. My kid brother hangs out with a couple of gays, and they know exactly how I feel about them. They are among the ones who have told me, with their own mouths while looking dead at me that they had left their Christianity because God would not accept them as they are.
And, sadly, they have drawn my straight brother with them. He is also an atheist, today.

I would treat any gay person who came within my sphere of influence exactly the same way.

Again we see how apologetic you are when it comes to sins that aren't homosexuality.

Hey, I am not the one who set up the criteria for being a Bishop, and God did not ask my opinion on the matter. Nor, evidently, yours, either.
If He had, I might have included gluttony. As I told you, I am a food junkie. I have freely confessed to you, in a public forum, that I have a problem with gluttony.
So, yes, i would have added that restriction, if only for my own sake.
However, God, in His Wisdom, did not see fit to restrict the chubby from the office of Bishop.
You're going to have to take it up with Him.

You dodged the point yet again. Seems to be a pattern with you.

The point is this.
Just like every single one of us, homosexuals need to repent of their sin.
We do not let thieves practice their sin in the church, do we? The last sermon I attended had to do with divorce. And, yes, there were a few who were squirming in their seats. As I told you, I got up and walked out on a greedy pastor, and my Christian community does not encourage greed.
I'm not sure exactly what you want from me, here, River...but if it is to endorse homosexuality, I am afraid you are doomed to disappointment.
No amount of arguing is going to change my mind.

How? Gays can be legally married. How is that a war on Christianity?

First of all, i am shocked that my government actually did legalize gay marriage.
And I'm not sure it was legal for the Supreme Court to do that.
Second, I do not understand why it is such a problem for gays who want to marry to frequent businesses who are all too eager to cater to them, but rather, they must insist that Christians violate our faith in order to fulfill their wishes.

From the OP:
Not surprisingly, Christians have been called the "American Taliban," a label that reflected the sentiments of some Californians who opposed Proposition 8, the pro-marriage bill, and who carried signs reading: "Don't Silence the Christians, Feed Them 2 the lions."
.....
The caustic vitriol from the "tolerant left" is bitter. Just because Christians don't want to participate in their ceremonies, Christians are now bigots. Brown commented: "People don't just hate you. They see you as downright dangerous, and that in itself is dangerous. And it's not just some isolated wacko making an extreme internet comment or a crowd of protesters carrying signs."

What does this hatred sound like? "I want them all to die in a fire," said one man. Another said, "I would be in favor of establishing a state for them...If not then sterilize them so they can't breed more." A man with a doctorate said, "The only good Christian is a dead Christian."
A college educated man referenced evangelical Christians and said "A torturous death would be too good for them." An elderly woman with a master's degree chimed in and said: "They should be eradicated without hesitation or remorse." (Dr. Larry Spargimino, commenting on article, "Townhall.com,When Committed Christians Are Compared to ISIS," by Michael Brown, September 13, 2015, http://townhall.com/...51359/page/full)

It is beyond obvious that those who respond in such a vicious way to Christian concerns about the raging ungodliness have a diminution of rationality in their thinking. Michael Brown questioned one woman who apparently had lost all reasoning ability and had launched a verbal attack that boiled with hatred. He asked the reasoning behind her outrage.

[Is your anger]...because we want to protect innocent babies in the womb? Because we care about marriage and family? Because we feed the poor and needy around the world? Because we want the whole world to know how wonderful Jesus is? Please be kind enough to explain your views.
....
While Christians in America don't yet face life-threatening persecution as do Christians who are being beheaded by ISIS, the Anti-Christian crusade is underway. It will one day--during the Tribulation, for certain--bring martyrdom to believers everywhere in the world. In 1 Peter 4:12, the apostle Peter wrote: Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you. But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.


Yet we are the ones being called "hateful jerks".
Nice.

Then you do support sin in your financial and business transactions. You just choose to remain ignorant of it.

What? My books have absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality.
Selling someone a Christian novel based on the life and times of Jesus Christ is not anywhere near the same thing as selling a wedding cake for a gay wedding.
Wasn't someone saying something about apples and oranges?
This is more like comparing coleslaw to sauerkraut...

Your posts in this thread show otherwise.

My posts in this thread have consistently urged you and anyone else with "gay friends" to tell them the truth about their sin, and to help them to put it away from them.

How so? (I predict you'll evade this as you have before)

You do not seem to realize that the wages of sin is death, and that includes (but is not limited to) the sin of homosexual sex.
You seem to think that Christians should not only endorse this sin, but actually encourage it.
This we may not do.

Is it our job to single out one sin from all the others, and ask the other party in every financial and business transaction we have, "Are you guilty of this sin"?

No, I do not believe that it is.
But it is our job not to endorse or support it.

Then why don't you ask when you sell books, to make sure your business dealings are encouraging more sin?

My books do not encourage sin.

 

[StanJ]

I'm a member of God's team.
He will deal with each one of us in His own time. The only Christian I am responsible for is me.

That's correct Barrd....there is NO right or left wing Christian, that is political ideology, which has no place in our walk of faith.

 

[Barrd]

That's correct Barrd....there is NO right or left wing Christian, that is political ideology, which has no place in our walk of faith.

AMEN, Stan J!
And thank you, my precious Brother :wub:

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

The Barrd said: I don't ask. I will sell you a book whether you are straight, gay, or whatever.

Then you do support sin in your financial and business transactions. You just choose to remain ignorant of it.

What a wonderful example of liberal illogic.

Buying or selling something completely unrelated to a sinful act does not mean you support their sin.

If such were the case; you could neither buy nor sell anything - - little miss river jordan couldn't even deposit a dime because then she'd be supporting her own sin!

Only homosexual perverts demand that others openly support their sin by forcing them to participate in an activity - homosexual marriage - which goes against the very basic tenet of their religion!