IndianaRob
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That’s not what I asked but no big deal. Do you still say being saved and born again are the same thing?Don't tell me what to do.
Being born from above is being born of the Word.
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That’s not what I asked but no big deal. Do you still say being saved and born again are the same thing?Don't tell me what to do.
Being born from above is being born of the Word.
That’s not what I asked but no big deal. Do you still say being saved and born again are the same thing?
Psalm 2:1-12 tells us: “Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”Your are Amil and therefore do not acknowledge the literal 1000 years reign of Jesus from this earth. Jesus's return to this earth is in Psalms 2, which begins with the kings of the earth gathering their armies to stop Jesus from returning with His army.
But in spite of their efforts, God will set Jesus as king on Mt. Zion the temple mount in Jerusalem, and from there Jesus will rule with a rod of iron. That begins the 1000 years reign of Jesus from this earth.
Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
When does this happen?This absolutely is not right.
Salvation comes immediately but you’re not born again until Christ is formed in you from reading incorruptible word of God.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Go back, redo your post. You are presenting Psalms 2:1-12 in a form that does not identify the verses. Thus, making your post hard to understand and un-readable.Psalm 2:1-12 tells us: “Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”
In other words that’s your story and your sticking to it no matter what those verses say. It’s either that or you have a serious reading comprehension problem.Hello! Yes.
No.Go back, redo your post. You are presenting Psalms 2:1-12 in a form that does not identify the verses. Thus, making your post hard to understand and un-readable.
You can go here to copy and paste from the kjv.
Then go back and number each verse in the passages you are quoting from the bible.
No!Then go back and number each verse in the passages you quoting from the bible.
You refer to verse 4 and verse 7 in Pslams 2, but don't idenify what the verse numbers are in the text you presented in red.
You refer to verse 4 and verse 7 in Pslams 2, but don't idenify what the verse numbers are in the text you presented in red.
Where did you copy and paste the text in red from ?
What online bible did you copy and paste from ? Provide a link.Open your Bible or open the Bible online. It is not hard to do.
What online bible did you copy and paste from ? Provide a link.
Are you copy and pasting from some Amil site instead ?
The kjv bible has the verse numbers annotated. Why did you remove the verse numbers ?I am using my own KJV Bible program.
I didn't say faith is the second birth. Good grief. Faith in what people hear (the word of God) results in being born again. You are not able to debate my beliefs because your own beliefs are from your imagination and not from scripture.I didn’t address anything you said because everything you said is YOUR version of being born again.
Just like your using Romans 10:17 to prove your point. Faith is not the second birth.
I’m done, I’m not going to debate your beliefs.
LOL. He identified the passage as Psalm 2:1-12. Are you too lazy to bring it up yourself if you need to see which verses are which? It's not as if he quoted the verses out of order. Are you aware that there were no chapters and verses in the original manuscripts? Would you have just not bothered reading the Bible if you had to read it without chapters and verses?Go back, redo your post. You are presenting Psalms 2:1-12 in a form that does not identify the verses. Thus, making your post hard to understand and un-readable.
You can go here to copy and paste from the kjv.
LOL. You always imagine yourself as having authority here when you have none. Thanks for the laughs and entertainment that you provide, Douggg.Go back, redo your post. You are presenting Psalms 2:1-12 in a form that does not identify the verses. Thus, making your post hard to understand and un-readable.
You can go here to copy and paste from the kjv.
Why not just copy and paste from the kjv link I gave ?LOL. He identified the passage as Psalm 2:1-12. Are you too lazy to bring it up yourself if you need to see which verses are which? It's not as if he quoted the verses out of order. Are you aware that there were no chapters and verses in the original manuscripts? Would you have just not bothered reading the Bible if you had to read it without chapters and verses?
LOL. Because I wanted to.The kjv bible has the verse numbers annotated. Why did you remove the verse numbers ?
Why do you not do it?Why not just copy and paste from the kjv link I gave ?