You are ducking around my questions.
So, when do the wicked cease from perpetrating their evil? When is sin finally eliminated for the wicked? When is death finally eliminated for the wicked?
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You are ducking around my questions.
So, when do the wicked cease from perpetrating their evil? When is sin finally eliminated for the wicked? When is death finally eliminated for the wicked?
Exactly. You have no answers to simple biblical facts. That is Full Preterism in a nutshell. Biblically you are exposed as a heretic.
I’ll die as one, perhaps that would be a better position for me to stand on.
It’s Jesus who makes us right with God; and only thing human beings can do if they hate just is point the finger and say heretic!
Who cares. It’s you that is caring that I believe Jesus has come back yet and it really must be baffling.
That is okay man; I’ll die being known as a heretic.
If you wanna know if Jesus was coming back to them or not my suggestion is read all the Gospels front to back. And then address all the letters and consider the fact that real people were living in this time.
There are obvious timestamps of progressional point in which Jesus would be coming very soon those historical churches that are no longer around in Asia Minor who John the Apostle had written to.
There are obvious timestamps of progressional point in which Jesus would be coming very soon those historical churches that are no longer around in Asia Minor who John the Apostle had written to.
David in NJ
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How is it you say you know and now you say you don't know?
Why would you, as a believer in Jesus reject His words?
Listen to what JESUS says to us: John chapter 17
But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word
Hi David how are you doing this morning?
Idk why you told me I suggest that it is not good to love God and love others. It’s obviously important.
Do you have an issue with me or something?
@David in NJ hope you realize that you are not some authority over me, because you’re not my father. I believe in Jesus and I believe his words are important for obtaining eternal life. You suggested that you assume I don’t, and sometimes I do not follow Jesus but follow my flesh; and then there are times when I’m following after the spirit.
It’s just up to me in my mind to choose who to serve myself or God and others.
I can be honest in saying I am a sinner saved by grace just as anyone else who has faith in the Gospel of Christ and not everyone can be mature in their flesh but can always by the spirit, in abiding in Christ who is the vine.
But you know these things an perhaps thst is why you are sharing, good you know so much of the Bible it is helpful in our lives to be reminded and remember things by the spirit in how one should be in this life before God.
May you be encouraged to continue to help people out there by the spirit.
It’s just up to me in my mind to choose who to serve myself or God and others.
I can be honest in saying I am a sinner saved by grace just as anyone else who has faith in the Gospel of Christ and not everyone can be mature in their flesh but can always by the spirit, in abiding in Christ who is the vine.
But you know these things an perhaps thst is why you are sharing, good you know so much of the Bible it is helpful in our lives to be reminded and remember things by the spirit in how one should be in this life before God.
May you be encouraged to continue to help people out there by the spirit.
Of course you will. Like all heretics you refuse to listen and receive God's truth. That is on you. I urge you to reconsider your error. But there is no budging with a heretic. You are unwilling and unable to even address the multiple holes in your position.
Faith is something believed on and never seen, with hope abounding.
Amazing we even believe God rose Jesus from the dead my Guy.
It’s all in his message but people I guess miss it… I don’t know even with suggesting reading the Gospels again.
I’m the one who is the heretic and should be shunned and shamed with chicken feathers even right, my guy? Look at the loony.
I don’t have any judgment to make other than people who won’t consider what the Gospel has to say for that time period, is foolishness.
It’s better for me to be seen as foolish; and to be foolish for Christ and his victory now today, in my opinion, @WPM. It’s not about pleasing people.
There are Religious people desire to be pleased in the domination of others, in which they start to really follow man and his ways over God and Jesus.
It sucks to know that religious manipulations are a existing problem in reality.
Anything that brings forth bondage and captivity is not freedom, and human beings can put others in bondage if a person has someone under them to listen to them.
Freedom from religious bondage is founded only in Christ who gives us liberty to live a life in response to God and towards others and to encourage and uplift rather than try to demand them to this or that, or make them have to believe the way you do in order to please them.
Jesus in my opinion also his Father desires us to have a free life that is lived by the spirit as God works on heart and minds and conforms us to the image of his son. Though we all have problems and go to work and pay bills.
It sucks to know that religious manipulations are a existing problem in reality.
Anything that brings forth bondage and captivity is not freedom, and human beings can put others in bondage if a person has someone under them to listen to them.
Freedom from religious bondage is founded only in Christ who gives us liberty to live a life in response to God and towards others and to encourage and uplift rather than try to demand them to this or that, or make them have to believe the way you do in order to please them.
Jesus in my opinion also his Father desires us to have a free life that is lived by the spirit as God works on heart and minds and conforms us to the image of his son. Though we all have problems and go to work and pay bills.
Do you believe the last days are over? Do you believe the last day has occurred? Do you believe time is no more?
David in NJ
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No one is perfect so perhaps I did lie I never did look what I said in what you quoted, but I’ll ask you again do you have some type of issue with me?
You have to understand one other thing is that revelation 21-22 are pictures and types of what heaven is like.
You already should know that I believe the last days are over; I also believe the Jewish Age that was under the old covenant was divorced at its destruction and God married his bride in which he established new heavenly Jerusalem. Now people live in a new age, the age of fulfillment, here on earth since the day of Christ returning.
People make their decisions eating from the tree of life or the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Why these questions?
David in NJ
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Jesus gave us Freedom from sin so that we can receive the Holy Spirit = the Spirit of Truth.
If you are not aligning your mind/heart with the words of God then you are not loving the Truth.
Even worse is to speak against the Truth by clinging to religious views that come from men who twist God's words.
David in NJ
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Read and study and pray 1 Corinthians chapter 15 and the Scriptures that i shared with you in His LOVE.
You were already shown that anyone who says that the Resurrection is past(has already ocurred) are liars and a cancer against you.
NOTICE -i have never condemned you or disavowed your belief in the Risen Savior - Lord Jesus Christ.
Oh you also have bias of determining that “believing Jesus retuning in that age” makes a person against truth of Jesus now. I see where you are going. Not a wise tactic friend.
Yes Jesus Christ frees us from bondage of sin and spiritual death, becoming free to live by the spirit and are made alive spiritually in Christ becoming a child of God.
That is amazing!
But God ain’t mad at me cause I believe Jesus came as he promised.
People just don’t like the idea that it’s possibly to believe and have faith that Jesus came as promised to the generation.
But you guys don’t address that as I continue to make the statement.
Either Jesus told the truth or he is a liar…
What you choose to believe is between you and God just cause I believe something doesn’t mean you have to.
It’s just simply sharing information.
God bless you friend, you’re being really nice which is cool.
Yes that chapter is good one on the resurrection.
People die today are rose again because of Jesus, and his victory. Believer and non believer he promised it to be so, resurrection of the condemned and those of life.
Most people don’t accept his total victory over, sin, death, Satan, hell, today.
David in NJ
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i have NEVER denied that the LORD came in the flesh = "the WORD became flesh and dwelt among us"
JESUS died and Rose from the Grave/Tomb and HE said HE is Coming Again = as do the Apostles and OT Prophets.
For you to deny the words of God is a deception from the evil one that has tricked you.
We who love you are here to help and BLESS you in His Truth = His word is Truth.
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