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I… Find it…bizzare…that you cannot seem to let go of the idea that Rom 11 and the ‘book of life’ are almost interchangeable. You got to let that go. Rom 11 is using imagery to portray an idea. A truth. But when you try and jam the imagery and idea into another, separate idea, you make a nasty...

Here’s the thing. You keep on making claims like the on above…and never back it up with any scripture. You also insist (again without scripture) that men USED to be divine. As I’ve given you scripture that outright tell us that heavenly beings ARE called ‘divine’ (elohim = god) you are, in fact...

How…is that NOT what I said? I can’t help but feel that the above is largely based on speculation. We don’t know where heaven is exactly, or how it functions. We don’t even know how time functions there. We do know that God is outside of time, and that when he chooses to interact with it it is...

I…am having trouble with this. Psalm 104…if it does mirror the creation story, still has the angels (V4) created BEFORE verse 5, in which the foundations of the earth are laid down. Which…would mean trying to insert the creation of the angels at day 3 or 4 in the Genesis account is still...

Okay. Let me give you another example that makes it really…really hard to take each text ‘at face value’….rather than looking at the preponderance of all the texts and building an understanding from them. James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac...

Well…I’m most happy to do so, although I do suspect we are talking past each other a little. How many times ought we each repeat the thought we are trying to communicate without the other really ‘getting’ it? But again…happy to keep trying if you are! Was Abraham faithful for believing God’s...

I think you need to address this post to timtofly. My question was directed at him because he has some very odd and unbiblical ideas about men/heavenly beings.

I’m sorry. But where did I say “objects in the sky”? And where did God say “bright lights”? If I said them in a previous post, it is good to provide the post#. As it is, I cannot see ANY of that in the post you are replying to. Or what you point is. Oh, are you entirely serious? Where on EARTH...

This assumes that the scroll with the 7 seals IS the Lamb’s book of life. Which has not been proven by you. Most scholars agree that the ‘scroll’ is God’s overall redemptive purpose and plan for the earth. This is why John weeps bitterly when no one could be found to open the book. It means that...

Why would I want to go back to your first quote. The question at hand was not your very first quote to me. It was the statement I focused on…a statement you seemed to contradict, which is why I was focusing on it. I have no idea of your computing situation, but claiming I was speaking to a...

How…is this not obvious? This age = temporal (definition - of or relating to time as opposed to eternity, of or relating to earthly life) The Age to Come = things eternal. Which obviously means that we can classify ‘this age’ as relating to the fall up unto Christ’s return, as that is the time...

It is well known that early cultures, Israel being one of them, often regarded ‘stars’ as divine beings. However, should we look at the Genesis creation story through the lense of that understanding? Cultural context can be helpful, but we ought always start with scripture itself: Job 38:4-7...

Your own reasoning precludes any of this. How can names be “sealed” in the book from the foundation of the world BY Christ’s sacrificing work….AND ALSO be removed later? Do we just assume the ‘sealing’ means absolutely nothing? Because…I think I’d like to see anything in scripture that indicates...

No. What I quoted you saying is found in #720. You said: As far as the other thing I am supposed to have quoted… You may have written that, but it was NOT what I was referring to. In point of fact, here is how the conversation went. You: #720 - Every human ever conceived is written in the...

Matthew 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Mark 10:29-30 Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters...

I…believe you are putting words in the bible that are just not there. “The many generations of sons of God after creation, around the generation of Enoch, saw daughters from Adam's fallen descendants via Seth.” ‘Many generations’ of the ‘sons of God’? First, it doesn’t say that, second, you are...

Shall I tell you your failures? You fail to prove, via scripture, that there WERE others created on Day 6 apart from Adam. You fail to prove, via scripture, that they indeed, were divine… You fail to prove, via scripture, that ‘image of God’ even means, or calls for a being of divine nature. You...

I confess I’m confused by this. As someone who likes to take each text at ‘face value’, I would wonder how you see these texts at all referring to the angels. Angels are not mentioned…indeed, we could even say that the words used here, for ‘firmament’ is not meant to be understood as ‘heaven’...

I’m afraid I miss your exact point here. Is this just an ‘added thought’ to my conversation with marks, or is there some particular thought/point here that I’m missing..?

I think perhaps the natural course of this conversation draws to a close. Because, yes, I may be taking things as you didn’t mean, which I of course am not doing on purpose. But I’m also struggling with what I see as contradictions in what you write. For example…from my perspective, you’ve been...