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  1. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And...this is where I hop off the bus. You know good and well I said I don't like it when people point the RT label at me, so of course I hold to "it". So...I see what you're doing here. And I won't engage. Have a good day.
  2. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is enough ambiguity within the text to allow some wiggle room, I feel. On one hand we have talk of a remnant, and on the other we have Paul speaking of 'full' and 'all'. I don't, for one moment believe that every single ethnic Jew will become a believer in Christ. But I do think we'll see...
  3. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And this is exactly where we run into arguments of the kind that lead to unedifying exchanges. However, I will attempt to explain what I mean. You say 'assigning RT to someone when that is *exactly what they're espousing* is entirely legitimate' Ok. But...what am I espousing? You say that to...
  4. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well...I suppose I can empathise here. I don't like being on the receiving end of the "replacement theology" label. I think it's a strawman label. Mostly. I think the issue is so much more complicated than just that label, and that by putting that label on it, they condemn everyone they can even...
  5. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That was a very interesting run down, thank you! I'll be honest with you...I don't love labels! I know they're helpful for defining things, and so, in many ways, we do need them. But sometimes I feel like I don't fit into a box. More...sometimes I worry that people, in order to fit into the box...
  6. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Ah. That is a little clearer. Thank you. That might very well be true. But...as I pointed out before, you'll most likely find such things if you look back in any eschatological branch. So...I suppose I'm wondering: if we know a person does not, by necessity, have ALL their doctrines be...
  7. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do forgive me if I'm wrong. However...was it not you who started a thread titled "The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics"? The first line within the OP of that thread read: If so, please enlighten me...how have I reached the incorrect conclusion? I'm not opposed to...
  8. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Ha! Well...I think, Randy...the more I read and learn about eschatology...the more I think none of us know exactly how it's going to go down. I think, when it does happen, we'll all go, "Huh...didn't see that coming." God likes to keep us humble. And while I think...I see one way taught more...
  9. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No...quite right, it wasn't this OP that you made that claim, I'm sorry. But another thread you started claimed Pre-mil fathers as heretics. And...forgive me, seeing you focus on the church fathers, I reached a conclusion on your topic. However...while this particular thread doesn't make the...
  10. Naomi25

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Sorry to jump in here out of nowhere...and I confess I haven't read the entire thread. However...I must admit to being slightly amused when debates arise over the soundness of a doctrine, especially grounding them within the work of the early church fathers. Surely they wrote many things that...
  11. Naomi25

    What will you do at the time of the end?

    Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the LORD has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the LORD calls. Or, if you like: Romans 10:12–13 For there...
  12. Naomi25

    Thanks, I’m sure it’ll be great!

    Thanks, I’m sure it’ll be great!
  13. Naomi25

    Hi Farouk! Just life, really. Getting ready for a trip to Tasmania for a family wedding. I’ve...

    Hi Farouk! Just life, really. Getting ready for a trip to Tasmania for a family wedding. I’ve been a bit busy with Church business, but otherwise things are fairly normal. How’s life for you?
  14. Naomi25

    The fully vaccinated believe every lie about Russia and Ukraine, fully support wartime escalations

    I live in a house with 3 autistic people: blunt and direct is our love language.
  15. Naomi25

    The fully vaccinated believe every lie about Russia and Ukraine, fully support wartime escalations

    I find it utterly baffling that you seem to believe that being fully vaccinated makes you a muppet. Case in point…I am fully vaccinated. My family…including extended family…are also vaccinated. Not a one of us believe the rubbish about Russia…or anything the media tells us, to be honest. And we...
  16. Naomi25

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    There are many passages in the NT that list all three persons together. It’s what makes the doctrine of the Trinity so compelling. None of them, however, tell us straight out that God exists three persons in one. The doctrine is an amalgamation of all relevant passages. It’s interesting to note...
  17. Naomi25

    The “cosmic web”…

    I found it on the ABC’s “iview” app. It’s called “Universe with Brian Cox”. I think I only made it through the first episode… It’d be really interesting if it was the ‘genesis’ story for a good fiction. As is, its just a bit funny…or tragic.
  18. Naomi25

    The “cosmic web”…

    I’d give that post 2 likes if I could!
  19. Naomi25

    The “cosmic web”…

    They sure do! I know some folks get frustrated when a thread goes ‘off topic’, but I quite enjoy the general role of a conversation…and that includes some tangents!
  20. Naomi25

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on our respective hermeneutical interpretations. But thank you for taking the time to chat on it and explain as you have.