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[Windmill Charge]

I didn't say Christianity was responsible for any wars, I asked you to consider Christendoms history of the wars they fought in the name of Jesus Christ. Does that mean that Christendom is actually a true Christian organization, no it doesn't. I believe Christendom to be a religious organization that falsely claim to be Christian. If you truly believe that the leaders in the churches in all these so called christian nations we're not telling their congregation to fight for their country you are wrong, the leaders were telling their congregation members to go fight for their country in the name of Jesus Christ. The one thing about people today, they don't think that these wars had nothing to do with Satan and The True God. Did God cause these wars, no, Satan did. There is a war being fought by The True God and Satan. You choose who side you are on. The true Christians didn't fight in those two world wars. In fact many in Russia, Germany were put in prison because they refused to fight in those wars. Here in the United States and England and Canada the literature of the true Christians were confiscated and forbidden to be read in those countries. When you speak of the two wars being fought for political reasons, do you think that Satan had nothing to do with that? The scriptures say that Satan is the ruler of this world.(John 14:30) 2Corinthians 4:4 tell us that Satan is the God of this world. Do you honestly believe that this world we live in in which Satan is God of he doesn't influence this world to do his bidding, this includes the two world wars. True Christians don't do Satan's bidding. So yes the two world wars had everything to do with what's going on between God and Satan.

As I said get your historical facts right and get your religous facts right.

No historian accepts that wars were fought by so called christian nations to advance Christianity.
equall to say that no true Christian fought in the wars is false, as is the claim that in the west Christian literature was confiscated.
The only sect that suffered this was the JW's.

Your thinking is confused.
You say it was 'Christian nations going to war, then you doubt that Christian natiuon are Christian, then you blame the devil, all you've omitted is to add jewish conspiricies.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

As I said get your historical facts right and get your religous facts right.

No historian accepts that wars were fought by so called christian nations to advance Christianity.
equall to say that no true Christian fought in the wars is false, as is the claim that in the west Christian literature was confiscated.
The only sect that suffered this was the JW's.

Your thinking is confused.
You say it was 'Christian nations going to war, then you doubt that Christian natiuon are Christian, then you blame the devil, all you've omitted is to add jewish conspiricies.

Nowhere in what I wrote did I say that any war was fought to advance Christianity. For one thing I don't believe Christendom to be Christianity. What I said was that the churches in Christendom were getting involved in the wars by encouraging their members to fight when those wars started. If those churches were truly Christian they would have encouraged their members to stay out of it. True Christians don't kill each other in the name of some political government or idea such as democracy, communism, dictatorships, they put God Kingdom first in their lives. True Christians are loyal to Gods Kingdom. Killing each other shows a lack of love for each other. No one will ever teach me that human beings shooting each other in the head and so forth is showing love to each other. True Christians obey the laws of political nations except when those political laws of the nations contradict the laws of God. The one supreme law of God for Christians to love one another is to be obeyed. If a Baptist were truly a Christian why would he take a weapon and kill another Baptist because a political nation that he lives in told him to. What I also said was that their was a war being fought by God and Satan. Satan and the demons use not only governments but also false religion and the commercial system to mislead the entire inhabited earth. (Rev. 12:9) Through false religion, Satan promotes lies about The True God Jehovah. In addition, the Devil seems determined to make as many people as possible forget God’s name. (Jer. 23:26, 27) As a result, sincere individuals who think that they are worshipping God are deceived into worshipping demons. (1 Cor. 10:20; 2 Cor. 11:13-15) Satan also promotes lies through the commercial system. For example, this system often teaches people that the best way to be happy is to pursue money and gather many possessions. (Prov. 18:11) Those who believe this lie spend their lives serving “Riches” rather than God. (Matt. 6:24) Eventually, their love of material things can choke any love they had for God.—Matt. 13:22; 1 John 2:15, 16.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

They were Messengers of God(Angels). They came looking like human males(men) because we humans can't see Angels in their natural state or original form which they are spiritual beings. The Sodomites, men who had surrounded Lots house didn't know that. They thought they were just normal human men. This that took place in Lots day in the cities of Sodom and Gommorah show that these men were homosexuals who wanted to have their sexual way with Lots guests. One of the things people forget is that God created a male and female so that the male would have sex with the female and they would procreate so that mankind would multiply and fill the earth. Sex wasn't and isn't an act which you are to only get sexual pleasure from. It is the way mankind procreates, not by a man having sex with another man or a woman having sex with another woman. Well, you know how mankind procreates. You saying that Sodomites have no Soul and will burn in hell is a statement I disagree with, but that is two other topics that shouldn't be discussed here.

Humans can see Angels, they just may not know that they are.
The Poofters knew that they had to corrupt them men because they knew that they had not been corrupted. poofters know that off the bat.

The poofters would of had a Soul once but that was corrupted and died, that's what happens to Satanist. like a drug addict they can only see one thing and everything outside of that does not mean a cracker.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Humans can see Angels, they just may not know that they are.
The Poofters knew that they had to corrupt them men because they knew that they had not been corrupted. poofters know that off the bat.

The poofters would of had a Soul once but that was corrupted and died, that's what happens to Satanist. like a drug addict they can only see one thing and everything outside of that does not mean a cracker.

Well, I disagree with your reasoning here. One reason is that I honestly don't think it's in agreement with the scriptures. To my knowledge, from what I have read and learned from the scriptures, humans, all humans don't have souls. The scriptures show that humans are Souls but they don't have a Soul. There is a difference in meaning when you say, " I have a Soul", and, " I am a Soul". That's why the scriptures say animals are Souls: all creatures living in the water, all creatures living on the land, all creatures that fly in the air, are all Souls. Mind you I said they are Souls, not that they have Souls. We humans are the same, we are Souls, we don't have souls. The meaning of the word Soul when I see how the word is used in scriptures is that the scriptures are talking about oxygen breathing creatures whether it be animals or humans. So while a person can lose ones life you don't have a Soul to lose cause as I said, you are a Soul. You don't have a Soul. I know many disagree but no one has shown me from the way the scriptures use the word Soul that I'm wrong in what I said.

 

[Marymog]

You only answered half of a retorical question.

Which part did not get answered?.....I will gladly accommodate you.

Mary

 

[Danube]

Jesus hating rubish.

Yes. Disgusting.
www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt03.html

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Well, I disagree with your reasoning here. One reason is that I honestly don't think it's in agreement with the scriptures. To my knowledge, from what I have read and learned from the scriptures, humans, all humans don't have souls. The scriptures show that humans are Souls but they don't have a Soul. There is a difference in meaning when you say, " I have a Soul", and, " I am a Soul". That's why the scriptures say animals are Souls: all creatures living in the water, all creatures living on the land, all creatures that fly in the air, are all Souls. Mind you I said they are Souls, not that they have Souls. We humans are the same, we are Souls, we don't have souls. The meaning of the word Soul when I see how the word is used in scriptures is that the scriptures are talking about oxygen breathing creatures whether it be animals or humans. So while a person can lose ones life you don't have a Soul to lose cause as I said, you are a Soul. You don't have a Soul. I know many disagree but no one has shown me from the way the scriptures use the word Soul that I'm wrong in what I said.

I agree what you say with humans having as regards to, I am a Soul and one has a Soul, but some do not have Soul and the reason is because they are corrupted or possessed by Satan, so that the Soul can not function. I have seen this with people that I know, they are carnal and much just like a dog.

Only a Human can have a Soul.

Now no one can come to Jesus but because they have of the Soul.
Cats dogs etc can not come to Jesus, because they do not possess a Soul.

 

[Windmill Charge]

True Christians don't kill each other in the name of some political government or idea such as democracy, communism, dictatorships, they put God Kingdom first in their lives.

Whether a Christian should fight to defend his country is up to each Christian. God has nowhere said this is wrong.

 

[Windmill Charge]

Which part did not get answered?.....I will gladly accommodate you.

Mary

If I could find my post I'd copy it to you.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Whether a Christian should fight to defend his country is up to each Christian. God has nowhere said this is wrong.

God has told Christian's to love one another. In fact the scriptures say at John 13:35 that those who are his true disciples would have love among themselves. How can a Baptist say he is a Christian if he kills another Baptist, is that showing love for each other, you're telling me that loving each other is the practice of killing each other. How can a Catholic kill another Catholic and that is having love for each other. If you love some man made government more than your spiritual brother or sister by killing your spiritual brother and sister in the name of that man made government how are you putting God kingdom first. As I said, true Christian's don't go and kill someone, especially their spiritual brother or sister in the name of some man made government such as democracy, communism, or dictatorships. They put God's kingdom first by practicing having love among themselves, not by killing each other. How can a person love God if they can't love their spiritual brother or sister.

 

[Windmill Charge]

God has told Christian's to love one another. In fact the scriptures say at John 13:35 that those who are his true disciples would have love among themselves. How can a Baptist say he is a Christian if he kills another Baptist, is that showing love for each other, you're telling me that loving each other is the practice of killing each other. How can a Catholic kill another Catholic and that is having love for each other. If you love some man made government more than your spiritual brother or sister by killing your spiritual brother and sister in the name of that man made government how are you putting God kingdom first. As I said, true Christian's don't go and kill someone, especially their spiritual brother or sister in the name of some man made government such as democracy, communism, or dictatorships. They put God's kingdom first by practicing having love among themselves, not by killing each other. How can a person love God if they can't love their spiritual brother or sister.

You make enormous assumptions here.
That every person one fights in the armed services is a Christian.
That it is wrong to fight to oppose agression.
That it is wrong to obey the government.
What true Christian do or don't do.

Think about what sort of world we would be living in if no one opposed the nazi's. Europe still ruled by them or by the communists. All european jews murdered. Christianity ruthlessly supprest. The killing of all who were mentally ill, didn't fit the arian mould etc

Is that a good image?

 

[Windmill Charge]

How can a Baptist say he is a Christian if he kills another Baptist,

After posting I realised something that you need to examine and think about from American history.
The American civil war or the war between the states.
Americans fought American in some lethal battles.
You are aware arn't you that durring this conflict there were several times of revival among the soiders fighting on both sides. Christian confederates fought Christian unionists.
From English or rather Scotish history a noted preacher used by God in revival fought and was wounded in WW1 look up Duncan Campbell and see how God used him in the Lewis revival.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You make enormous assumptions here
That every person one fights in the armed services is a Christian.
That it is wrong to fight to oppose agressiont .That it is wrong to obey the government. What true Christian do or don't do.

I don't believe that anyone who fought in the Civil War or in the Two World Wars we're Christian. Simply because people say they are Christians or anyone who is of any proptestant or catholic religion say they are Christians that doesn't mean they are Christians. Chatholics have always fought other Catholics and so have Protestants. Yet people want me to believe that a Catholic or Protestant putting a bullet in the head of another Catholic or Protestant is showing love to him or her if you are doing in the name of some man made government and what it represents. We supposed to think it honorable, glorious even to crush kill destroy because that's love, killing each other. Jesus nor his Apostles didn't teach that. You will find nowhere in the scriptures where Jesus or his Apostles told there followers to take up weapons destroy the Roman Empire. You think the Roman Empire wasn't a agressive Empire. The Romans killed many Christians and some of the Apostles but at no time do the scriptures say that the Apostles Paul or Mark or Matthew or John tell there followers to take up weapons and fight against the Roman Empire.

You obey the laws of the government as long as those laws aren't against Gods laws

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You make enormous assumptions here.
That every person one fights in the armed services is a Christian.
That it is wrong to fight to oppose agression.
That it is wrong to obey the government.
What true Christian do or don't do.

I don't think any true christians fought in the Civil War or the two world wars. Just because there are Catholic Churches and Protestant Churches in existence doesn't make the people that go to these Churches Christians just because they and others say so. Any organization or person or persons can say they are Christians that doesn't mean it's true.

You can't find anywhere in the scriptures where Jesus Christ or his Apostles taught there followers to Take up weapons and fight against the Roman empire and this Empire was very. agressive. The Roman empire killed some of the Apostles and many of the Christians.

When it comes to obeying mans government, you obey the laws of mans government as long as those laws don't go against the laws of God. The first and foremost law you love God and his people. Loving God people is'nt going out and killing Gods people just because mans government tells us to. There are some true Christian's in most contries today. I'm not saying the true Christian's are the majority of the people in each country, in fact out of a world population of somewhere around 8 billion I think true Christian's only number in the millions.

True christians put love for the true God and there spiritual brother and sister first. In fact the scriptures show us that those who truly have love among themselves will be showing that they are The True God people. The majority of the world will hate these people because Satan is the ruler of the world we live inn and the majority follow Satah, although they don't think so.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You make enormous assumptions here.
That every person one fights in the armed services is a Christian.
That it is wrong to fight to oppose agression.
That it is wrong to obey the government.
What true Christian do or don't do.

Think about what sort of world we would be living in if no one opposed the nazi's. Europe still ruled by them or by the communists. All european jews murdered. Christianity ruthlessly supprest. The killing of all who were mentally ill, didn't fit the arian mould etc

Is that a good image?[/QUOTE

What I know is that no one will convince me that the way I should show my love for my spiritual brother or sister is by putting a bullet in their head or blowing them up, not even in the name of any man made government. You honestly think we should allow government to teach us that the the only way we can love our spiritual brother or sister is to kill them when our government tells us to.

 

[Windmill Charge]

I don't think any true christians fought in the Civil War or the two world wars.

I am saddened that you dismiss the testimonies of Christians who have fought in many wars.
To have such a limited view of who is a Christian restricts ones spiritual life.

I would ask how you know that you are the arbitor of what makes a Christian and who, in your opinion, is a Christian.

Do you pray for the perscuted church?
For the Christians in the middle and far east, many of whom are catholic, or orthodox and suffer because they bear thje name Christian.
Do you have the right to dismiss them because of what they are called?
Does the parable of the good samaratan teach you nothing?

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I don't think any true christians fought in the Civil War or the two world wars.

I am saddened that you dismiss the testimonies of Christians who have fought in many wars.
To have such a limited view of who is a Christian restricts ones spiritual life.

I would ask how you know that you are the arbitor of what makes a Christian and who, in your opinion, is a Christian.

Do you pray for the perscuted church?
For the Christians in the middle and far east, many of whom are catholic, or orthodox and suffer because they bear thje name Christian.
Do you have the right to dismiss them because of what they are called?
Does the parable of the good samaratan teach you nothing?

I'm saying that I don't believe any person who goes to any catholic church or to any of the many Protestant Churches Are true Christians. Do they say they are?, Yes. Does that mean they are true Christians?, No. Those people who believe the Catholic or Protestant way fight and kill each other. (people who believed the Catholic or Protestant way). I don't believe that to be showing love for your spiritual brother (fellow Catholic or Protestant). If two nation's in which the people in those two respective nations believe the same Catholic way or Protestant way and their two respective political nations tell their people they're going to war with each other, does that mean a Catholic supposed to kill another Catholic or a Protestant supposed to kill another Protestant because their two respective political nations they live in tell them too. Like I said although I don't believe those who believe the Catholic way or those who believe the many different Protestant beliefs to be true Christians, they say they are. But if they're true Christians should they kill each other cause their respective political nations tell them too? The scriptures tell us that the way you would know the true people of God is that they would have love among themselves. Is it showing love to your fellow Christians if you help kill them because the political nation you live in tells you to?

 

[Acolyte]

If you believe Jesus died for your sins and that he raised up 3 days later, you are a Christian. I don't care what your docternal(sp?) beliefs are. Too many people for us to agree, too much time lost, too much hidden by the 'powers' that be.

 

[Windmill Charge]

if they're true Christians should they kill each other cause their respective political nations tell them too?

It is not as simple as you put it.
Again I'll refer you to the example of Duncan Campbell who fought in WW1, was wounded in that war and was used by God in that war and afterwards in several revivals.
It is not enough for you to say @real Christians don't fight in wars!'
You need to examine the evidenmce that Christians have and do serve in the military.

 

[Danube]

THIS WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED.