More on the deity of Christ

[Matthias]

There was a time when Christianity Board policy affirmed the Apostles’ Creed. I still do.

I don’t speak against it, and never have. I ask my readers to keep that in mind as they follow my defense of the Apostles’ Creed against the opposition to it by @Behold, then decide for themselves.

 

[Matthias]

I'll share that "God was manifested in the Flesh".........and that Jesus "Made the World".......if the topic of the discussion is related to "The Trinity".



@Matthias wrote......."""""Also share with them the Apostles’ Creed.""""

No thanks.

Not only will i not share that with them, i also wont invite them to join "the Cult of Mary" that produced it.

I want our readers to burn that into their minds.

 

[Matthias]

@Matthias wrote......."""""Also share with them the Apostles’ Creed.""""

No thanks.

Not only will i not share that with them, i also wont invite them to join "the Cult of Mary" that produced it.

And will you also not share the Nicene Creed (and other trinitarian creeds) with your readers?

I have. I will. I do. And I’ve publicly called for it on this forum (and others) to be shared - to be more precise, taught - in all churches and privately in homes.

 

[OreCove]

I don't believe in direct deity of the Christ. If Jesus admitted that God left him when he was on the cross, means divine nature can come in and left. It wasn't permanently belong to Jesus. Or this is means God Father left God Son?

 

[Pierac]

I don't believe in direct deity of the Christ. If Jesus admitted that God left him when he was on the cross, means divine nature can come in and left. It wasn't permanently belong to Jesus. Or this is means God Father left God Son?

I'm not going to say a single word... I will let scripture do the talking...

Act 2:22 "Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know--

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. (see Act 2:22)

Isa 44:6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him

John 8:40 "But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do.

On the authority of Jesus himself we know that the categories of "flesh" and "spirit" are never to be confused or intermingled, though the course of God's Spirit can impact our world. Jesus said, "That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit" (John 3:6). And "God is Spirit." The doctrine of the incarnation confuses these categories. What God has separated man has joined together! One of the charges that the apostle Paul levels at simple man is that we have "exchange the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man" (Romans 1:23). Has it ever dawned on you as you sit in church listening to how the glorious Creator made Himself into a man that we could be guilty of this very same thing? The doctrine of the incarnation has reduced the incorruptible God to our own corruptible image. We are made in God's image, not the other way around.

Joh 12:49 "For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

If we may let our Lord and King have the final word. Jesus plainly states, "the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be his worshipers. God is spirit; and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth" (John 4:23-24). Who does Jesus declare are the "true worshipers"? He insists, "the true worshipers shall worship the Father…" If we would be amongst the true worshipers we must be with Jesus worshiping this Father. Evidently, those who worship "God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost, three persons in one God," Are not said by Jesus to be the true worshippers. Those who worship the Father as the "only true God" are. The worshipper of the One God, the Father, as Jesus’ own affirmation that he is the true worshipper.

How do they not know these things... OreCove?