Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

[Scott Downey]

Galatians 3 And Ephesians 2 says there is NO DIFFERENCE between jew or gentile for those who are in Christ

Sons and Heirs​

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Ephesians 2, one new man from the two

Brought Near by His Blood​

11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

Christ Our Peace​

14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Christ Our Cornerstone​

19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

 

[Doug]

You are now denying the cross-work. Wow! You are denying Christ’s new covenant has already been introduced. Premil is letting it's mask fall. This is utter heresy. That is why it desires another temple, priesthood and blood sacrifices.

sorry but you have a misunderstanding of the new covenant......a covenant doesnt require death a testament does....Christ shed his blood for the new testament so God could be just in forgiving Israel (Hebrews 9:15)....if you substitute new covenant for new testament you could be confused and think we are in the new covenant

 

[David in NJ]

Heb 9:15 says he forgave Israel's sins committed under the first testament by the blood of the new testament, which will allow God to be just to forgive their iniquity in the new covenant

OT was a foreshadow of MESSIAH and was temporary = Hebrews 10:1-4

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.
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Today is Pesach/Passover where MESSIAH is our Passover Lamb = John 1:29

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

 

[Scott Downey]

Corinthian church were gentile believers, and Paul uses the tern New Covenant for them and the Lord's supper, they were not excluded.

Conduct at the Lord’s Supper​

17 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be [b]recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame [c]those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.

Institution of the Lord’s Supper​

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, [d]“Take, eat; this is My body which is [e]broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

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[Scott Downey]

2 Cor 3, written to and for gentile believers in their church, speaks to them of the NEW Covenant they have with God, having PAUL as a minister to them of the New Covenant. Paul's ministry was to gentiles, and Peter to jews.

1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or do we need, as some others, epistles of commendation to you or letters of commendation from you? 2 You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

The Spirit, Not the Letter​

4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, 6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the [a]Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Glory of the New Covenant​

7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as [b]by the Spirit of the Lord.

 

[David in NJ]

sorry but you have a misunderstanding of the new covenant......a covenant doesnt require death a testament does....Christ shed his blood for the new testament so God could be just in forgiving Israel (Hebrews 9:15)....if you substitute new covenant for new testament you could be confused and think we are in the new covenant

In God's Redemptive Work of Salvation

Covenant = Testament

They are synonyms

A synonym is a word, morpheme, or phrase that means precisely or nearly the same as another word, morpheme, or phrase in a given language. For example, in the English language, the words begin, start, commence, and initiate are all synonyms of one another: they are synonymous.

 

[Ritajanice]

According to God's Word, does this occur before or after the 1,000 Years?

I’m not here to answer your questions David..I’m here to,learn and know that there will be a New Heaven and a new earth.

The new heaven and new earth will be God resetting and recreating the heavens and the earth for believers of Jesus Christ, where sin and the effects of sin will no longer be present. You will be able to enjoy the beauty of God's presence in all of his glory, unhindered by the presence of sin.

 

[David in NJ]

I’m not here to answer your questions David..I’m here to,learn and know that there will be a New Heaven and a new earth.

The new heaven and new earth will be God resetting and recreating the heavens and the earth for believers of Jesus Christ, where sin and the effects of sin will no longer be present. You will be able to enjoy the beauty of God's presence in all of his glory, unhindered by the presence of sin.

God placed you and i here to learn.

When we argue with one another it means we are not at peace with what we are about to discover.

 

[Ritajanice]

God placed you and i here to learn.

Refusal to do so is a sign of pride.

I suggest that you take note then....all you seem to do is argue..good day..

 

[David in NJ]

I suggest that you take note then....all you seem to do is argue..good day..

On the contrary

You were asked a simple question for YOUR benefit and what is your response = "I’m not here to answer your questions" = PRIDE

When people argue with the Word it means they are not at peace with what they are about to discover,
and/or they are not willing to accept the answer from someone they disdain in their heart, which again is another sympton of human pride.

God calls it the sin of 'respect of persons'.

 

[covenantee]

They aren't really interchangeable but are co dependent.....a covenant doesnt require death a testament does....Christ shed his blood for the new testament so God could be just in forgiving Israel (Hebrews 9:15)....if you substitute new covenant for new testament you could be confused and think we are in the new covenant

Yes. It is in fact both concurrently, as you've identified.

It is a will and testament as shown in Hebrews 9:15-17, and it is a bidirectional agreement as shown in Ephesians 2:8.

It is the same Greek word diathéké.

And it came into full force and effect at Calvary, ever since for all who will believe it and receive it, Jew and Gentile alike..

 

[Ritajanice]

On the contrary

You were asked a simple question for YOUR benefit and what is your response = "I’m not here to answer your questions" = PRIDE

When people argue with the Word it means they are not at peace with what they are about to discover,
and/or they are not willing to accept the answer from someone they disdain in their heart, which again is another sympton of human pride.

God calls it the sin of 'respect of persons'.

Sin..is a completely different topic...if you want to talk about pride/ sin..then I suggest that you open your own thread on the subject and stop taking this topic off course.,,by looking for an argument.

@Spiritual Israelite ..when will The new heavens and earth happen ,plus when will we receive our glorified bodies?

As you imo seem to know what you are talking about..from the word of God...many thanks...it’s exciting to know that there will be a new heaven and earth, for all of Gods children.

Isn’t a wonderful thought that one day that we will see God in his full Glory?

We end our earthly life , then we go on in our spiritual life....it’s going to be a completely beautiful sin free life..no more pain or suffering...Praise God..I often wonder what our glorified bodies will look like..

 

[David in NJ]

Sin..is a completely different topic...if you want to talk about pride/ sin..then I suggest that you open your own thread on the subject and stop taking this topic off course.,,by looking for an argument.

@Spiritual Israelite ..when will The new heavens and earth happen ,plus when will we receive our glorified bodies?

As you imo seem to know what you are talking about..from the word of God...many thanks...it’s exciting to know that there will be a new heaven and earth, for all of Gods children.

Isn’t a wonderful thought that one day that we will see God in his full Glory?

We end our earthly life , then we go on in our spiritual life....it’s going to be a completely beautiful sin free life..no more pain or suffering...Praise God..I often wonder what our glorified bodies will look like..

When people argue with the Word it means they are not at peace with what they are about to discover,
and/or they are not willing to accept the answer from someone they disdain in their heart, which again is another sympton of human pride.

God calls it the sin of 'respect of persons'.

 

[David in NJ]

A little reminder for everyone on here.

John 13:34
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

When someone asks you a question, respond the way the LORD has commanded you.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You are up first as the question was posed to you.

Take your time = FATHER is Watching

The only question you asked me was a ridiculous question, but I'll answer it, anyway.

"What part of 2 Peter 3:10-13 are you missing?

I'm not missing any part of it. Okay, your turn to answer my question.

 

[David in NJ]

The only question you asked me was a ridiculous question, but I'll answer it, anyway.

[Ridiculous question asked by David in NJ]"What part of 2 Peter 3:10-13 are you missing?

I'm not missing any part of it. Okay, your turn.
[/QUOTE]

Please explain what is "ridiculous" of asking: What part of 2 Peter 3:10-13 are you missing?"

Help me out so that i can understand where you derived "ridiculous" from that question - Thank You

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

sorry but you have a misunderstanding of the new covenant......a covenant doesnt require death a testament does....Christ shed his blood for the new testament so God could be just in forgiving Israel (Hebrews 9:15)....if you substitute new covenant for new testament you could be confused and think we are in the new covenant

I have no idea of what you are talking about. The new testament and new covenant are essentially the same thing.

Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

So, do you think Christ shed His blood for the new testament, the new covenant or both?

 

[David in NJ]

The only question you asked me was a ridiculous question, but I'll answer it, anyway.


I'm not missing any part of it. Okay, your turn to answer my question.

Our Salvation came down from Above.

Because of sin ruling over us we needed a Savior who was unaffected by sin.

The same is true for our understanding pertaining to the things of God.

The Apostle Peter was not given all revelation, but only that which the LORD gave to him.

Example: JESUS speaking to Peter after the Resurrection = John 21:17-22

He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?”

And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.”

Jesus said to him, “Feed My sheep.
Most assuredly, I say to you, when you were younger, you girded yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish.”
This He spoke, signifying by what death he would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, “Follow Me.”

Then Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following, who also had leaned on His breast at the supper, and said, “Lord, who is the one who betrays You?” Peter, seeing him, said to Jesus, “But Lord, what about this man?”

Jesus said to him, “If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me.”

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I'm not missing any part of it. Okay, your turn.

Please explain what is "ridiculous" of asking: What part of 2 Peter 3:10-13 are you missing?"

Help me out so that i can understand where you derived "ridiculous" from that question - Thank You

LOL. What isn't ridiculous about it? Why would you think I would agree that I'm missing any part of it? Where did I indicate that I'm missing any part of it? Nowhere. So, why ask that question as if I would agree that I'm missing part of it?

 

[David in NJ]

LOL. What isn't ridiculous about it? Why would you think I would agree that I'm missing any part of it? Where did I indicate that I'm missing any part of it? Nowhere. So, why ask that question as if I would agree that I'm missing part of it?

Because it is obvious that you are = see Post 358