To the only God our Savior

[GeneZ]

But Soul and Spirit in Chinese language is the same Word.
..........

Bad translation.

Those translating did not understand what they were dealing with.
All translations do cause certain problems at times.

My pastor teaches not from translations, but directly from the Hebrew and Greek for that reason.
He would often begin by quoting from the King James.
Then, he would correct what the translators sometimes misunderstood...
And?

Suddenly, the Word of God would now make sense.

 

[GeneZ]

That’s also patently false.

Well... all the ex Baptists I fellowshipped with must have been lying to me then.

And, my pastor, who used to attend Baptist churches. As well, when he pointed out their legalism he was exposed to.

And, I said..."typical". Not all.

 

[GeneZ]

That’s patently false. Catholic orthodoxy is historical orthodox trinitarianism. Once again, you violate the rule prohibiting a “Christian” member from speaking against trinitarian orthodoxy.

Catholic HISTORICAL orthodoxy is not the Catholic church we see today.
In the beginning years, the Catholic church was correct about the Trinity.

But, they got a little fluky when they began teaching that Mary is the mother of God.
And, when they taught that the bread and wine are the literal blood and flesh of Jesus.

We are deeply indebted to the wayward RCC for causing the formation of the Great Reformation.
Which also started out with needed corrections, but eventually skidded off the road themselves.

The Spirit filled Church is always always in the process of growth and shedding of old skin.

 

[Matthias]

Well... all the ex Baptists I fellowshipped with must have been lying to me then.

I’m an ex-Baptist and I haven’t lied to you.

And, my pastor, who used to attend Baptist churches. As well, when he pointed out their legalism he was exposed to.

And, I said..."typical". Not all.

Your pastor went overboard if he really said that about all Baptist churches.

 

[Matthias]

Catholic HISTORICAL orthodoxy is not the Catholic church we see today.

That’s a ludicrous accusation.

In the beginning years, the Catholic church was correct about the Trinity.

But, they got a little fluky when they began teaching that Mary is the mother of God.
And, when they taught that the bread and wine are the literal blood and flesh of Jesus.

None of that has anything whatsoever to do with their “correct” understanding of the Trinity.

We are deeply indebted to the wayward RCC for causing the formation of the Great Reformation.
Which also started out with needed corrections, but eventually skidded off the road themselves.

You’re rapidly narrowing the field. Your witness is stunning.

The Spirit filled Church is always always in the process of growth and shedding of old skin.

 

[GeneZ]

Your pastor went overboard if he really said that about all Baptist churches.

Not all. Some Baptists pastors were associated with his ministry.

 

[GeneZ]

That’s a ludicrous accusation.

So much for your church history....

You're a faker....

 

[Matthias]

Not all. Some Baptists pastors were associated with his ministry.

What is the name of his ministry?

 

[Matthias]

So much for your church history....

You're a faker....

If you can demonstrate that the Catholic Church has rejected the Council of Nicaea (325), the Council of Constantinople (381) and the Council of Chalcedon (451) then please do it. Unless you can do that, you’ve shown yourself to be an ignorant bigot.

***

A word to my readers. I’ve asked him to do the impossible.

 

[GeneZ]

What is the name of his ministry?

He is now with the Lord.

For example... Billy Graham asked him to become his private mentor.
Robert Thieme Jr turned it down because he was much too busy with his own church teaching six nights a week.

The likes of Hal Lindsay and Chuck Swindoll were part of his congregation.
RBT was instrumental in getting them accepted to Dallas theological Seminary by writing letters to DTS.

While alive some of his messages mention Baptist preachers who studied from his teachings.
Pastors from all over the country studied his teachings...

One of his classic rubs was about how Baptists could not reconcile David being saved while committing adultery with Bathsheba and
having her husband murdered by sending on a suicide mission into battle...

 

[Matthias]

He is now with the Lord.

For example... Billy Graham asked him to become his private mentor.
Robert Thieme Jr turned it down because he was much too busy with his own church teaching six nights a week.

The likes of Hal Lindsay and Chuck Swindoll were part of his congregation.
RBT was instrumental in getting them accepted to Dallas theological Seminary by writing letters to DTS.

While alive some of his messages mention Baptist preachers who studied from his teachings.
Pastors from all over the country studied his teachings...

One of his classic rubs was about how Baptists could not reconcile David being saved while committing adultery with Bathsheba and
having her husband murdered by sending on a suicide mission into battle...

Do you not attend a local church?

Dallas Theological Seminary doesn’t reject historical orthodox trinitarianism. Swindoll didn’t. I’m not sure about Lindsey, but I doubt that he did.

 

[GeneZ]

If you can demonstrate that the Catholic Church has rejected the Council of Nicaea (325), the Council of Constantinople (381) and the Council of Chalcedon (451) then please do it. Unless you can do that, you’ve shown yourself to be an ignorant bigot.

***

A word to my readers. I’ve asked him to do the impossible.

It all depends upon who is making such a demand of me.
I have nothing to prove to someone who is a proud apostate who is here to see whom he can badger.,

 

[GeneZ]

Do you not attend a local church?

I will attend any local church who's pastor can teach exegetically and sanely.

Here is my local church.

https://www.rbthieme.org/PDF/LessonListingForWeb2014.pdf

 

[Matthias]

It all depends upon who is making such a demand of me.

You owe it to your readers.

I have nothing to prove to someone who is a proud apostate who is here to see whom he can badger.,

You’re an apostate yourself.

You made an outrageous assertion about the Catholic Church which you can’t back up.

 

[Matthias]

I will attend any local church who's pastor can teach exegetically and sanely.

Are there any in your area which meet that criteria? If so, what are there names?

 

[Matthias]

I will attend any local church who's pastor can teach exegetically and sanely.

Here is my local church.

https://www.rbthieme.org/PDF/LessonListingForWeb2014.pdf

1. The link doesn’t contain an address.

2. The ministry affirms historical orthodox trinitarianism.

 

[GeneZ]

You’re an apostate yourself.

You made an outrageous assertion about the Catholic Church which you can’t back up.

Those who are Christian and study Scripture do not need me to back it up.

 

[Matthias]

Those who are Christian and study Scripture do not need me to back it up.

You can’t back it up because you made it up.

Using trinitarian sources, I’ve proven to our readers that historical orthodox trinitarianism is true orthodoxy in Catholicism and in Protestantism.

Even the one trinitarian source you provided affirms historical orthodox trinitarianism. That leaves me wondering if you’ve ever read it.

 

[GeneZ]

You can’t back it up because you made it up.

Using trinitarian sources, I’ve proven to our readers that historical orthodox trinitarianism is true orthodoxy in Catholicism and in Protestantism.

Even the one trinitarian source you provided affirms historical orthodox trinitarianism. That leaves me wondering if you’ve ever read it.

You just want a fight, and also to find out how well you can twist the facts to get your way...

I will save it for a better time.
One when you can not claim victory even though you lost.

 

[GeneZ]

You can’t back it up because you made it up.

Using trinitarian sources, I’ve proven to our readers that historical orthodox trinitarianism is true orthodoxy in Catholicism and in Protestantism.

Even the one trinitarian source you provided affirms historical orthodox trinitarianism. That leaves me wondering if you’ve ever read it.

Why don't you believe these Trinitarians if they are so good?