Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[ProDeo]

[Mat 19:17 KJV] 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
[Mar 10:18 KJV] 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
[Luk 18:19 KJV] 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

Now this was the one and only Jesus saying this right? There was not another double of himself floating in another inner or outer dimension, right?

Extreme tunnel vision.

 

[APAK]

Extreme tunnel vision.

Is that also called ETV. I don't think I've heard of it. Did your shrink diagnose you with this disease then?...I hope it's not contagious. What are you taking to cope with it? Some meds that sends the mind into place of serenity, of a constant scene of images, of a rotating three-headed one god on a turntable: all three heads are speaking, thinking, deciding all in unison as clones of each other....... Makes my head hurt just thinking about it.. and who would be the one god?...

 

[ProDeo]

Is that also called ETV. I don't think I've heard of it. Did your shrink diagnose you with this disease then?...I hope it's not contagious. What are you taking to cope with it? Some meds that sends the mind into place of serenity, of a constant scene of images, of a rotating three-headed one god on a turntable: all three heads are speaking, thinking, deciding all in unison as clones of each other....... Makes my head hurt just thinking about it.. and who would be the one god?...

John 8:58 - Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:59 - So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

Imagine that you are wrong after all, then basically you are like the Jews of that time, except you are stoning Him x times a day here in this forum.

 

[David in NJ]

Do really know what other greater truth was said in those 3 verses that Mono listed? Read them again, 3x Jesus was saying he was NOT God. Does that shock you? He said only God is good and not him, or anyone else for that matter.

Let's read them again together:

[Mat 19:17 KJV] 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
[Mar 10:18 KJV] 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
[Luk 18:19 KJV] 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

Now this was the one and only Jesus saying this right? There was not another double of himself floating in another inner or outer dimension, right?

Dear APAK

JESUS just equated Himself with His Father as God

Please read again

Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?”

21Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

 

[APAK]

Dear APAK

JESUS just equated Himself with His Father as God

Please read again

Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?”

21Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

What does this mean...JESUS just equated Himself with His Father as God. So now you say Jesus = Father = God.....

Man, you're on the same pills as PD. Better get off 'em, could cause permanent damage where you think Jesus =s many more things....

 

[APAK]

John 8:58 - Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:59 - So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

Imagine that you are wrong after all, then basically you are like the Jews of that time, except you are stoning Him x times a day here in this forum.

And you are very ignorant of what you write as well..truly, truly I say to you this in all honesty. You have not a clue in what you wrote....

 

[David in NJ]

What does this mean...JESUS just equated Himself with His Father as God. So now you say Jesus = Father = God.....

Man, you're on the same pills as PD. Better get off 'em, could cause permanent damage where you think Jesus =s many more things....

Who was JESUS before HE came to earth = "the Word was with God and the Word was God"

HE came from the FATHER = the "Word was God" and became flesh = JESUS is the only begotten Son of God

Beginning in Genesis chapter 1 , we are told that Elohim(Gods) are THREE and THEY are ONE

The first 3 verses show the 3 Elohim from One

Irrevocable TRUTH Beginning in Genesis = Elohim is THREE and Elohim is ECHAD

 

[RedFan]

Beginning in Genesis chapter 1 , we are told that Elohim(Gods) are THREE and THEY are ONE

The first 3 verses show the 3 Elohim from One

Irrevocable TRUTH Beginning in Genesis = Elohim is THREE and Elohim is ECHAD

I'm not seeing what you are seeing here. I'm seeing a plural noun (Elohim), which means two or more. You're seeing the same plural noun and declaring it means THREE. Not two. Not four. Not a hundred, But THREE.

As you know, I am a Trinitarian. But I cannot distill the Trinity from Genesis 1. How do you get there?

 

[MonoBiblical]

Dear APAK

JESUS just equated Himself with His Father as God

Please read again

Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

I will give you Thayer's mean and you can decide what it means.

1. of good constitution or nature
2. useful, salutary
3. good, pleasant, agreeable, joyful, happy
4. excellent, distinguished
5. upright, honourable

akin to ἄγαμαι to wonder at, think highly of, ἀγαστός admirable, as explained by Plato, Crat., p. 412 c. [others besides; cf. Donaldson, New Crat. § 323]), in general denotes "perfectus,... qui habet in se ac facit omnia quae habere et facere debet pro notione nominis, officio ac lege" (Irmisch ad Herodian, 1, 4, p. 134), excelling in any respect, distinguished, good.

 

[MonoBiblical]

I'm not seeing what you are seeing here. I'm seeing a plural noun (Elohim), which means two or more. You're seeing the same plural noun and declaring it means THREE. Not two. Not four. Not a hundred, But THREE.

As you know, I am a Trinitarian. But I cannot distill the Trinity from Genesis 1. How do you get there?

I suggest you look at the magical Megillah 9a.12, and 9a.14 [on Sefaria]. The word for God in Hebrew was originally El not Elohim.

 

[Wrangler]

No, what you are saying did not occur.

Sure it occurred. Trinitarians just want to impose their dogma unto unitarian text.

 

[Wrangler]

The Father wanted Him to die.

The Father is God, the only true God according to Christ. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?

 

[ProDeo]

The Father is God, the only true God according to Christ. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?

My worry is that you don't have fully understood the Gospel.

Allow me a question, in your services to do sing praise to, or glorify Jesus? I know we do, loud and joyful. And most of all thankful.

 

[Wrangler]

Allow me a question

I asked a question. Try answering it.

I understand the Gospel. No need to worry. I just reject the manmade, 4th century IDOL that contradicts Scripture

 

[David in NJ]

I'm not seeing what you are seeing here. I'm seeing a plural noun (Elohim), which means two or more. You're seeing the same plural noun and declaring it means THREE. Not two. Not four. Not a hundred, But THREE.

As you know, I am a Trinitarian. But I cannot distill the Trinity from Genesis 1. How do you get there?

v1 - In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
v2 - The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Elohim was hovering over the face of the waters.
v3 - Then Elohim Said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.

This is what the Holy Spirit revealed to the apostle John = 3
Elohim is mentioned 3 times in the first 3 verses
Father is verse 1
Holy Spirit is verse 2
Word is verse 3

NOTICE that the Creation did NOT Begin until Elohim was mentioned 3 Times and the last time is the WORD = John 1:3
v3 = All things were made thru the WORD

Genesis 1:26 BUILDS on the Introduction that Elohim is PLURAL and is THREE

Gen 1:26 - "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness" = 3

The PLURAL Elohim Speaks of Themselves in ONE sentence THREE times.

Then Elohim does this AGAIN in the very next verse = Genesis 1:27

So Elohim(Plural) created man in His own image; in the image of Elohim(Plural) He created him; male and female He created them.

The FATHER/HIS as is the SON/HE as is the HOLY SPIRIT/HE = 3

Elohim will later, in Genesis, IDENTIFY Who the THREE are!!!

Shalom

Blessing here for you @amadeus

 

[David in NJ]

I will give you Thayer's mean and you can decide what it means.

1. of good constitution or nature
2. useful, salutary
3. good, pleasant, agreeable, joyful, happy
4. excellent, distinguished
5. upright, honourable

akin to ἄγαμαι to wonder at, think highly of, ἀγαστός admirable, as explained by Plato, Crat., p. 412 c. [others besides; cf. Donaldson, New Crat. § 323]), in general denotes "perfectus,... qui habet in se ac facit omnia quae habere et facere debet pro notione nominis, officio ac lege" (Irmisch ad Herodian, 1, 4, p. 134), excelling in any respect, distinguished, good.

The WORD of ELOHIM gives us the definition of His "Good" = there is no Higher Definition

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, Elohim/God

 

[RedFan]

v1 - In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
v2 - The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Elohim was hovering over the face of the waters.
v3 - Then Elohim Said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.

This is what the Holy Spirit revealed to the apostle John = 3
Elohim is mentioned 3 times in the first 3 verses
Father is verse 1
Holy Spirit is verse 2
Word is verse 3

Cute, but Elohim is actually mentioned 4 times in the first 4 verses -- so why not four instead of three? For that matter, Elohim is mentioned 2 times in the first 2 verses -- so why not two instead of three? Why are you gerrymandering our result by looking at the first three verses instead of the first four, or the first two?

 

[David in NJ]

I'm not seeing what you are seeing here. I'm seeing a plural noun (Elohim), which means two or more. You're seeing the same plural noun and declaring it means THREE. Not two. Not four. Not a hundred, But THREE.

As you know, I am a Trinitarian. But I cannot distill the Trinity from Genesis 1. How do you get there?

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[MonoBiblical]

The WORD of ELOHIM gives us the definition of His "Good" = there is no Higher Definition

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, Elohim/God

It gives us a word for supernatural entity. It is a faulty one at that. El is the Aramaic dialect form.

 

[David in NJ]

Cute, but Elohim is actually mentioned 4 times in the first 4 verses -- so why not four instead of three? For that matter, Elohim is mentioned 2 times in the first 2 verses -- so why not two instead of three? Why are you gerrymandering our result by looking at the first three verses instead of the first four, or the first two?

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