Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

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Verily

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Interesting catch. The NASB capitalizes "Your" in verse 5 to indicate that the right hand (what has God got against southpaws?) refers back to YHWH in the preceding verse:

4 The LORD (upper case) has sworn and will not change His mind,
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
5 The Lord (lower case, i.e. God's Messiah) is at Your right hand;
He (the lower-case Lord) will shatter kings in the day of His (assumed by the translators to be the upper-case LORD) wrath.
6 He (assumed by the translators to be the lower-case Lord) will judge among the nations,..
God speaking to Jesus Christ there
 

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NET, which renders the Hebrew word adoni properly in English, contains an excellent note on Psalm 110:1.


Yahweh is speaking in a prophetic oracle to the Ideal Davidic King, the Messiah.

“Yahweh says to [Jesus of Nazareth] …”, not “Yahweh says to [Yahweh] …”.
 
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Here's a couple of Wikipedia articles.





It looks like Kenosis is emptying yourself, and Theosis is becoming like God. Or like Christ, if you will.

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Thanks Lambano!

This is from the New Advent Encyclopedia, in case you're interested.

 
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Anyone who argues that it’s not adoni in verse 1 isn’t being truthful.



In Psalm 110:5 the Hebrew word is Adonai, as correctly reported. It is referring to Yahweh, not to the Messiah. God, in this verse, is at the human king’s right hand.


Psalm 110:1 The LORD (Yehovah) said unto my Lord (adoni), Sit thou at my right hand
Psalm 110:5 The Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

So you are saying that "my Lord" (adoni) in Psalm 110:1 at the LORD (Yehovah's) right hand is not the same Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand in Psalm 110:5?
 

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Psalm 110:1 The LORD (Yehovah) said unto my Lord (adoni), Sit thou at my right hand
Psalm 110:5 The Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

The English translation in verse 1 is incorrect. The correct Eglish rendering is “my lord”. Capitalizing the “L” is done when the Hebrew word is Adonai, not when the Hebrew word is adoni. You are correct when you say in parentheses that the word is adoni.

So you are saying that "my Lord" (adoni) in Psalm 110:1 at the LORD (Yehovah's) right hand is not the same Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand in Psalm 110:5?

The positions have been reversed in verse 5. In verse 1, the king is sitting at God’s right hand. In verse 5, God is at the king’s right hand.
 

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The English translation in verse 1 is incorrect. The correct Eglish rendering is “my lord”. Capitalizing the “L” is done when the Hebrew word is Adonai, not when the Hebrew word is adoni. You are correct when you say in parentheses that the word is adoni.



The positions have been reversed in verse 5. In verse 1, the king is sitting at God’s right hand. In verse 5, God is at the king’s right hand.
You are totally losing me on that last one, so God the Father is at Jesus right hand and Jesus is no longer at the right hand of the Father?
 
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Psalm 110:1 The LORD (Yehovah) said unto my Lord (adoni), Sit thou at my right hand
Psalm 110:5 The Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

So you are saying that "my Lord" (adoni) in Psalm 110:1 at the LORD (Yehovah's) right hand is not the same Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand in Psalm 110:5?
Verily,,,,I'm following along since this is a very quoted verse.

I believe Psalm 110:5 is speaking about the Messiah.....Lord.

But what do you say that this means?:
Psalm 110:5
The Lord stands at your right hand to protect you.....


It would be The Lord (Messiah) stands at the right hand of whom??
God?
The population the Messiah will conquer?
Certainly God (LORD) does not need any protection?

Thanks.
 

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You are totally losing me on that last one, so God the Father is at Jesus right hand and Jesus is no longer at the right hand of the Father?

In verse 5, the Father is at Jesus’ right hand.

Adonai is the God and Father of our lord (Heb. adoni) Jesus Messiah.

Jesus is presently sitting at the right hand of his God and Father, just as verse 1 of the prophecy said that he would.

Verse 5 shouldn’t throw us. God is always at the right hand of those whom he supports and is working through.
 

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The English translation in verse 1 is incorrect. The correct Eglish rendering is “my lord”. Capitalizing the “L” is done when the Hebrew word is Adonai, not when the Hebrew word is adoni. You are correct when you say in parentheses that the word is adoni.



The positions have been reversed in verse 5. In verse 1, the king is sitting at God’s right hand. In verse 5, God is at the king’s right hand.
M,,,,,are we not suppose to pay attention to LORD or Lord?

In verse 1 GOD is saying to Messiah SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND

In verse 5 The Messiah is sitting at the right hand of GOD

WHY does one of my bibles state, in verse 5, that Messiah stands at the right hand of GOD to protect Him?
(I think it was the NLT....I really use the NASB for study which does not have this protection sentence).
 

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Verily,,,,I'm following along since this is a very quoted verse.

I believe Psalm 110:5 is speaking about the Messiah.....Lord.

But what do you say that this means?:
Psalm 110:5
The Lord stands at your right hand to protect you.....


It would be The Lord (Messiah) stands at the right hand of whom??
God?
The population the Messiah will conquer?
Certainly God (LORD) does not need any protection?

Thanks.
I have,

Psalm 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
 

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In verse 5, the Father is at Jesus’ right hand.

Adonai is the God and Father of our lord (Heb. adoni) Jesus Messiah.

Jesus is presently sitting at the right hand of his God and Father, just as verse 1 of the prophecy said that he would.

Verse 5 shouldn’t throw us. God is always at the right hand of those whom he supports and is working through.
I have Messiah for verse 5.

Really, when someone is at the right hand of someone.....
It's the "someone" that has the authority...
not the person at their right hand.....
 

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In verse 5, the Father is at Jesus’ right hand.

Adonai is the God and Father of our lord (Heb. adoni) Jesus Messiah.

Jesus is presently sitting at the right hand of his God and Father, just as verse 1 of the prophecy said that he would.

Verse 5 shouldn’t throw us. God is always at the right hand of those whom he supports and is working through.
I'm not seeing it, and now I have brain freeze
 
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So you are saying that "my Lord" (adoni) in Psalm 110:1 at the LORD (Yehovah's) right hand is not the same Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand in Psalm 110:5?
Correct! There are many lords in Scripture (but the word “LORD” applies exclusively to YHWH). Jesus’ God is also sometimes called lord, as in this case.

REV translation makes it clear what is happening in the text.
O Lord, at your right hand
is he who will shatter kings in the day of his wrath.


In V1, the LORD YHWH is speaking to the lord Jesus. In V5, the author of Ps 110, David, is speaking. And he is speaking to the LORD YHWH referring to him as lowercase, lord.
 
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Correct! There are many lords in Scripture (but the word “LORD” applies exclusively to YHWH). Jesus’ God is also sometimes called lord, as in this case.

REV translation makes it clear what is happening in the text.
O Lord, at your right hand
is he who will shatter kings in the day of his wrath.


In V1, the LORD YHWH is speaking to the lord Jesus. In V5, the author of Ps 110, David, is speaking. And he is speaking to the LORD YHWH referring to him as lowercase, lord.
Thank you, I thought I was losing my mind, I dont like that feeling.
 

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I have Messiah for verse 5.

God is at “thy,” the Messiah’s, right hand in verse 5.

Really, when someone is at the right hand of someone.....
It's the "someone" that has the authority...
not the person at their right hand.....

Messiah is sitting at the right hand of God in verse 1. The Messiah doesn’t have authority over Yahweh. Yahweh has authority over Jesus.
 

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I don't know if @Verily will agree....
in every bible I checked Lord means Jesus Messiah and LORD means God Father.

LORD (the standard English rendering of the Tetragrammaton) is God the Father. LORD / YHWH/ Yahweh is the God of Israel. LORD isn’t Jesus.

It’s “lord,” not “Lord,” which means Jesus Messiah.
 

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I don't know if @Verily will agree....
in every bible I checked Lord means Jesus Messiah and LORD means God Father.

I havent checked every bible, I typically regard the LORD as the Father and the Lord as Jesus Christ. Thats why I color coded my posts between them earlier to make that distinction I was making more obvious.
 
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