What to do with all these illegal aliens?

[Behold]

CNN (The Communist News Network) and MSNBC< and NBC< and ABC........these are all the same......Just different "Alts"..

They have already concluded, that it will cost..

11,000.oo USD Per Illegal, to get them ALL out.

That is 313 Billion Dollars. or about 5x as much as the USA (BIDEN) has given Zelensky to fight with Russia. (so far).

So, i want to take a guess as to what Trump will do, perhaps the first week of Jan, '25. when he becomes the "Sitting" President.

i think he is going to roll back many of Biden's Executive Orders that have allowed this BORDER issue.
And he is going to get everyone's attention...especially the 11-13 Million Illegals in the USA..........but taking an armed force, and going to those USA Hotels, that are taken over by Gangs of Illegals, and He's going to "take them out".. and that is going to be his.. ."Im not kidding you".....and .. = now that i have your attention"""""..... to the rest of the Illegals, as well as to all those Marxist Media Outlets, that want to replace American's with Illegals.

 

[Wick Stick]

Well, it's not like they're sitting around waiting for us to make up our minds. They're not in a pile in the corner marked 'to be deported.' Most of them have already entered society and are trying to get jobs, feed their families, etc. I doubt that the government is going to go door-to-door seeking them out to deport them.

The ones who are criminals... when they get arrested next time, they'll get deported then.

The real change is what we do with the new illegal immigrants. When they get detained crossing the border, they'll be sent back to Mexico instead of to New York. In other words, a return to sane border enforcement.

 

[JohnDB]

CNN (The Communist News Network) and MSNBC< and NBC< and ABC........these are all the same......Just different "Alts"..

They have already concluded, that it will cost..

11,000.oo USD Per Illegal, to get them ALL out.

That is 313 Billion Dollars. or about 5x as much as the USA (BIDEN) has given Zelensky to fight with Russia.

So, i want to take a guess as to what Trump will do, perhaps the first week of Jan, '25. when he becomes the "Sitting" President.

i think he is going to roll back many of Biden's Executive Orders that have allowed this BORDER issue.
And he is going to get everyone's attention...especially the 11-13 Million Illegals in the USA..........but taking an armed force, and going to those USA Hotels, that are taken over by Gangs of Illegals, and He's going to "take them out".. and that is going to be his.. ."Im not kidding you".. = now that i have your attention Statement..... to the rest of the Illegals, as well as to all those Marxist Media Outlets, that want to replace American's with Illegals.

Ummmm
Not to be a naysayer....
But $11,000 X 20 million = 220 Billion. So it's a bit cheaper than what you are saying.

And they will NOT be getting airline flights with stewardesses to anywhere....they will be bussed and train boxcar to their various destinations...outside the USA.
K Rations and animal cages in the meantime. Literally.....
Men are separated from the women and children and shipped like cargo....Literally.

That's deportation. Kinda inhumane in some ways....but that's the risks they knew were coming.

The birthing tourism trade is also over. Just because you gave birth to a child here in the USA does not automatically make that child a US citizen anymore.

Those lines are gonna get really really long here soon. And Gavin Newsom (democrats next great hope for the White House) is going to look like crap trying to play oppositional politics to satisfy their base.

 

[Behold]

Ummmm
Not to be a naysayer....
But $11,000 X 20 million = 220 Billion. So it's a bit cheaper than what you are saying. \

IM just Quoting CNN.
Its their math.
If its only 100 billion off, then for them, that is "TRUTH"...

That MATH as True as them using their Channel to tell Americans that Trump is "Hitler" and "he's going to destroy democracy"... as if they even understood the definition of Democracy.

And they will NOT be getting airline flights with stewardesses to anywhere....they will be bussed and train boxcar to their various destinations...outside the USA.

It its in the Winter, then they probably wont use unheated Train boxcars as that is just too cold.

There are busses, and there are cargo jets, that transport Troops.

They'll figure it out, as they've already been working on it for a while.

In Fact, in these days since Trump has become the "Prez Elect",, He has not been playing Golf.
He's been in long thoughtful meetings with Tulsi, and Elon, and His Sons, and JD, and RFK Jr....Vivek, all of these and more.
These people want to take America BACK, from the Dems, who have poisoned it culturally, and in every other way.. as that is how you "Make it Great Again".

 

[Behold]

That's deportation. Kinda inhumane in some ways....but that's the risks they knew were coming.

You break the law, you asked for the situation.
They can come back, but they have to do it Legally.

The birthing tourism trade is also over. Just because you gave birth to a child here in the USA does not automatically make that child a US citizen anymore.

Actually, if you are born in the USA to "undocumented" parents, you are a Legal Citizen of the USA.


This is based on the 14th Amendment.

Those lines are gonna get really really long here soon.

There were around 3000 headed to the southern border, and that number is less now, since Trump became the "Prez Elect".
So, His Immigration Policy is already bearing fruit, and Hes not even sworn in Yet.

Ridiculous analogy,= but Trump's presence in the world is almost like....."The Sheriff is Back".. "we have to behave now".

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Most of them have already entered society and are trying to get jobs, feed their families, etc. I doubt that the government is going to go door-to-door seeking them out to deport them.

Yes, but what can and should be done is enforce existing laws against companies that hire illegals to make it very hard for illegals to get jobs.

Once that starts, many of them will go home on their own which is a a good starting point

The birthing tourism trade is also over. Just because you gave birth to a child here in the USA does not automatically make that child a US citizen anymore.

The US Constitution still says is does.... so that will remain unchanged until there is a constitutional amendment ratified by the states.

 

[Ziggy]

God just blessed America in a big way!
Praise God!
Change is coming and we will start moving in the right direction.
But what will we do with all these illegal aliens? Many of them are children who have nothing and need help. It's not their fault. Certainly Trump cannot deport 5k/day for four years - that would be some trick. But the criminals, the gangs _ as we find them _ they need to go.

Imagine inviting 12 million immigrants, promising them a new life, free stuff, for their votes. And after adding maybe millions ( who knows) of fraudulent votes to Kamala's count - it didn't work! So now we have all these immigrants, who did not serve their purpose, with their hands out.
How do they feel? Manipulated, deceived, disillusioned and now stuck, broke and homeless. "Where's our free life Biden? We are on the street, living in squalor"! Obama, Biden, nor Kamala give a hoot about them.
What to do?
I say help the kids, educate them, teach them the American way. As for the adults, well they better be willing to work to pay their way. A strong work ethic shall be enforced. The Bible says, :If you don't work, you don't eat." God commands responsibility, that is what made America great to begin with; families willing to work hard towards their dreams, their pursuit of happiness. Or shall we send them all back to their nations, back to the certainty of a hopeless existence of poverty and unsafety. I don't think that is what Jesus would do.
Give them a chance, hope, but an ultimatum!
They must work and learn the language or get the heck out, no welfare for sluggards.
Christians should pray and find a way, a solution that benefits all. I believe many of them are Christians. Many of them prayed before and during their long journeys in hope that we would be merciful. Yes, close the borders now, but these who are already here, shouldn't we answer their prayers?
What say you?

I believe a lot of the unaccompanied children wouldn't mind going back home to their parents.
Let's find the 325,000 missing children who have been sold into slavery and prostitution or worse, and bring them home.
Let's vet the ones who are truly here to be a part of the American dream and offer them green cards and maybe at some point citizenship.
Let's improve the education system and create apprentiships and job training, instead of hiring below wage workers, make it fair and even for all.
If you succeed it is by merit and character not your gender or race or ethnicity.
Let's make no child left behind a reality.
Open more businesses, more factories, build baby build. Lower the cost of supplies so people can build their own homes and their own dreams.
Let's make Family great again!
The criminals have to go. Those that want to live off the government for free will have to work and give back to the community in some fashion, even if it means picking up a broom and sweeping the sidewalks or picking up trash in the park.
Be a part of what it is we want to build together.
Find cures for depression and mental illness. Clean up our air and water and food supplies.
If we all work together we can achieve this.
A lot of bad people came over that border, but not all.
It may seem harsh but the sickle will have to be put to the harvest and the wheat from the chaff will have to be separated.
DACA should be visited again and those who came here legally should be placed in line first.
Those who have built businesses and made contributions to grow this country should be given merit.

We can do this if we have the will to do so.
With God's help all things are possible.
HUGS

 

[quietthinker]

Two different subject. Illegal aliens is a political matter not a religious matter.

God is not religious.

 

[quietthinker]

D

He does up until a certain point, then He lets them go, releases them to do the things they want.

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Rom. 1:28-32

And so this facetious, off the wall scenario I posted was just tongue in cheek that answered what seemed to me your off the wall post.

Does God stop loving them because he 'gives them over'?

 

[Wrangler]

God is not religious.

Neither is deporting invaders religious. Try staying on topic.

 

[quietthinker]

Neither is deporting invaders religious. Try staying on topic.

you miss the point!

 

[Wrangler]

you miss the point!

Nope. You are missing the point and changing the subject.

 

[Wick Stick]

Yes, but what can and should be done is enforce existing laws against companies that hire illegals to make it very hard for illegals to get jobs.

Once that starts, many of them will go home on their own which is a a good starting point

Companies aren't hiring illegals as employees, anyway. It's ILLEGAL and HARD TO DO WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT. They are hiring them as outside contractors, which is LEGAL. There's not much to get caught for.

If you want to make it hard for them to get work, you'll need some new laws, not just an uptick in enforcement.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Does God stop loving them because he 'gives them over'

Did He stop loving those who died in Noah's Flood? Obviously, that would be a strange way to express His love. Read Romans 1 :18-32. Don't you accept what it literally says?
Do you think He loves the reprobates whom He throws into the Lake of Fire to destroy? No.
As it is written, 'Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated'".Rom. 9:13

 

[Ziggy]

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - The Biden administration will not renew a temporary humanitarian entry program for hundreds of thousands of migrants with U.S. sponsors who arrived in recent years, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said on Friday.
Some 530,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela have entered the U.S. by air since October 2022 and received two-year grants under the "parole" program that will begin to expire in coming weeks.

Immigration is a top voter issue in the Nov. 5 election that will pit Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris against Republican Donald Trump, who has criticized the parole program.
The decision not to renew the parole program for the four nationalities follows the plan outlined by DHS when the program was launched, spokesperson Naree Ketudat said in a statement.
Migrants without permission to remain in U.S. "will need to depart the United States prior to the expiration of their authorized parole period or may be placed in removal proceedings," Ketudat said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-will-not-renew-legal-status-hundreds-thousands-migrants-2024-10-04/

So there are 2 ways to look at this.
1. Biden planned to have a lot of people here in the states to remain just in time for voting in the 2024 election and then make them go home.
2, When Trump says he is going to begin mass deportations this coincides with DHS policy for them to leave.

Not all were flown in on these "grants" . Many came in illegally across the border.
The grants were instated to "reduce" the number of border crossings showing a decrease in migration while at the same time flying them in.

So either way they have to pack their bags and head home. Now some will be able to seek out other programs that allow them to stay.

"However, many of those migrants could remain in the country under other programs.
The parole program allows migrants with existing U.S. sponsors to enter the country for humanitarian reasons or if their entry is deemed a significant public benefit. It will continue to accept new applications from those abroad. "

So this "mass deportation" isn't only legal it's written in the Biden Administration policy.
So don't get all radical when people start leaving in droves and go and accuse Trump of being inhumane or whatever.

And also, don't give only Trump the credit for removing people that were slated to be removed in the first place.

It's not fair to play with people's lives no matter how you look at it.
But if they knew it was only a two-year grant and then a return trip home, there should be no contentions when they leave.
If they came across the border illegally, then they have no excuse and they need to get back in line like everyone else.

Mexico isn't happy about the election. But they never should have allowed them to cross their southern border in the first place, or seek asylum in Mexico.

The most important thing we can concentrate on is removing the cartels that have made billions of dollars trafficking all these people across country borders and abusing and murdering many of them.
Their days are numbered.

It will work out in the end.
Hugs

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

D

Does God stop loving them because he 'gives them over'?

Maybe you should ask what love is? God is Love. We share His love too. We demonstrate love in deeds, thoughts and emotions when we care for, or help someone. Another definition: It's an extention of ourselves towards the spiritual growth of oneself or another human. So when we stop doing it, we stop loving.
That said, His judgment of sin is death, physically and spiritually ( and again folks are already spiritually dead unless they are born again). But even before physical death, His decision of judgment happens when He gives you over, He let's you go off on your path without Him, He blots your name out of the Book of Life and you are considered judged already. His love stops at that moment He gives them over.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, but what can and should be done is enforce existing laws against companies that hire illegals to make it very hard for illegals to get jobs.

This is a disgusting bait and switch.

OTOH, we are admonished to be merciful to these creatures in dire straits. OTOH, when we are, we are punished for it. I say for every illegal person hired to work and America, once caught, someone in the federal government should be fired. It can be a lottery so as not to be biased against any one agency.

It is the federal government who failed to keep them out. There failure to follow the law comes first and is far worse than a private company hiring people in dire straights. Why is it the federal government always gets away with their illegality?

 

[Wrangler]

Mexico isn't happy about the election. But they never should have allowed them to cross their southern border in the first place, or seek asylum in Mexico.

Great point!

The most important thing we can concentrate on is removing the cartels that have made billions of dollars trafficking all these people across country borders and abusing and murdering many of them.

I would add to that, concentrate on those like Soros who finance the invaders.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Great point!


I would add to that, concentrate on those like Soros who finance the invaders.

George Soros is 94 - his days are numbered. But he will just be replaced by his son or someone else. I looked into his history, a lifetime of destructive deeds in many countries. He was helped by elites behind the scenes. He started in the banking business ( Hedge funds) in England. Keep in mind that the Rothchilds dominated the European Central Bank for two hundred years.
He profited from manipulating and disrupting different countries financial markets too. He got into American politics 20 years ago and so has been funding the Dems. He supported John Kerry, then worked alongside Obama to cause racial division, hiring thugs, instigators, causing protests, riots, chaos, all with the end game in mind- destruction of our nation to be replaced by globalism. He funded all the district attorneys who went after Trump. He's really spent the majority of his billions to destroy our country. The bastard failed after all that. Now he can die with a failed legacy. But who is really behind all this evil? Satan and his yet to be revealed AntiChrist.

 

[Taken]

What to do with all these illegal aliens?

TOUGH and SWIFT!!

Give warning, so they may pack possession's and leave..
Massive clean sweep, transport families,(less possessions) AND (individuals overstaying VISA’S (without option to return) ….to FEMA camps according to their country of origin. Plane load and ….DEPORT to country of origin.

Further consideration regarding foreign “prisoners” in US prisons to deal with them.

* Countries that “refuse” plane landing, “influx”….deport them to the nearest country that will accept plane landing.

* US Citizens that interfere, harbor, court and prison sentence.

* US Citizens that have “married” an illegal…US citizen have option to leave with spouse according to that nations laws or illegal return to country of origin and apply for citizenship as US law provides.

BRING the Military home….and BUILD THE WALL and MAN it with the MILITARY…


Glory to God,
Taken