What to do with all these illegal aliens?

[Wrangler]

Yeah! I heard they was giving illegal migrants checks for $50,000 and keys to an apartment with no rent. And then put it all on the national debt. That aint right.

@marks explained very succinctly why it ain’t right. Charity ends with your wallet. Spending OPM (Other People’s Money) is stealing. See 8th Commandment.

Problem with do-gooders is that they are not bothered by their conscious in dismissing God’s Will

 

[JohnDB]

God just blessed America in a big way!
Praise God!
Change is coming and we will start moving in the right direction.
But what will we do with all these illegal aliens? Many of them are children who have nothing and need help. It's not their fault. Certainly Trump cannot deport 5k/day for four years - that would be some trick. But the criminals, the gangs _ as we find them _ they need to go.

Imagine inviting 12 million immigrants, promising them a new life, free stuff, for their votes. And after adding maybe millions ( who knows) of fraudulent votes to Kamala's count - it didn't work! So now we have all these immigrants, who did not serve their purpose, with their hands out.
How do they feel? Manipulated, deceived, disillusioned and now stuck, broke and homeless. "Where's our free life Biden? We are on the street, living in squalor"! Obama, Biden, nor Kamala give a hoot about them.
What to do?
I say help the kids, educate them, teach them the American way. As for the adults, well they better be willing to work to pay their way. A strong work ethic shall be enforced. The Bible says, :If you don't work, you don't eat." God commands responsibility, that is what made America great to begin with; families willing to work hard towards their dreams, their pursuit of happiness. Or shall we send them all back to their nations, back to the certainty of a hopeless existence of poverty and unsafety. I don't think that is what Jesus would do.
Give them a chance, hope, but an ultimatum!
They must work and learn the language or get the heck out, no welfare for sluggards.
Christians should pray and find a way, a solution that benefits all. I believe many of them are Christians. Many of them prayed before and during their long journeys in hope that we would be merciful. Yes, close the borders now, but these who are already here, shouldn't we answer their prayers?
What say you?

Actually....
I have a different view.
We need the people.
Do NOT need the criminals.

We need an easier streamlined process for them to get jobs and work.

But we want to toss out the criminals.

I don't know exactly how this can be done but....we need to let a bunch work legally here with ID, SS, and taxpayer ID #.....

So that they don't need to resort to eating pets or criminal behavior.

 

[marks]

Actually....
I have a different view.
We need the people.
Do NOT need the criminals.

We need an easier streamlined process for them to get jobs and work.

But we want to toss out the criminals.

I don't know exactly how this can be done but....we need to let a bunch work legally here with ID, SS, and taxpayer ID #.....

So that they don't need to resort to eating pets or criminal behavior.

This is still taking away from those who are rightfully here to give to those who are not.

Anyone who crosses the border illegally IS a criminal. The children are just caught up in their parent's criminal trespass.

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

What to do with all these illegal aliens?​

Send them back home...

If they want to apply for asylum then let them do it thru legal means instead of sneaking across the border

 

[JohnDB]

This is still taking away from those who are rightfully here to give to those who are not.

Anyone who crosses the border illegally IS a criminal. The children are just caught up in their parent's criminal trespass.

Much love!

Yes....
But I'm referring to those who are involved in gang related activities, prostitution, Theft, SA or drug mule type activities in order to survive.

Those we don't need....the others who just want to live, work and reside....I'm OK with them living here as are most people. Of course not just dumped into areas which the infrastructure can't support such an influx of people. Just moderate increases as a community has need.

Part of the reason why we have illegal immigration is that it's difficult for these people to legally immigrate. And the countries they are immigrating from are not helping in any way.

 

[marks]

Yes....
But I'm referring to those who are involved in gang related activities, prostitution, Theft, SA or drug mule type activities in order to survive.

Those we don't need....the others who just want to live, work and reside....I'm OK with them living here as are most people. Of course not just dumped into areas which the infrastructure can't support such an influx of people. Just moderate increases as a community has need.

Part of the reason why we have illegal immigration is that it's difficult for these people to legally immigrate. And the countries they are immigrating from are not helping in any way.

Imagine we're talking about your home. Squatters come in and start sleeping in your children's room, and eating from your kitchen, do you allow them to stay? Let's say you do. Then they bring in 20 more, who are sleeping in your house and eating from your kitchen. Will you give them your ATM card and pin number? Why or why not?

These answers directly pertain to the illegal immigrant issue. The leftists have said, yes, stay, and here's the bank account. No community needs an influx of criminals, and I mean all criminals, including illegal border crossers. They will do that, they'll likely do whatever they think they need to.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Part of the reason why we have illegal immigration is that it's difficult for these people to legally immigrate.

There is a legal process that they are supposed to use.

It's difficult for me to go to work every day and struggle to pay my bills and take care of my household, and it's made significantly more difficult by the numbers of illegal aliens.

Life is difficult, that's no excuse to break the law.

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

We need the people.
Do NOT need the criminals.

The invaders are criminals, by definition.

 

[Wrangler]

Part of the reason why we have illegal immigration is that it's difficult for these people to legally immigrate. And the countries they are immigrating from are not helping in any way.

No one is obligated to permit their preference to move to another country. No one.

Any country, being sovereign, has the right to deny any request for migration. Difficult? No burden to make it easier. It's difficult for a reason. We only want the best.

 

[Rockerduck]

Just stop the handouts, the freebies, the room and board, and education. and they will just go back by themselves. Once they know they have to work for anything, the vacation is over.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

There is a legal process that they are supposed to use.

Exactly... and if people don't like that they need to write their congressman

 

[quietthinker]

When Israel left oppressive Egypt and entered the promised land, were they not aliens to the local populations?
What did you want the local populations to do with these aliens?
What do you want to do with those you see as 'alien'

How do you understand Jesus' directive of 'love your neighbour as yourself''.....even 'love as I have loved you'

Do we deliberately and conveniently cobble texts together not because we are interested in truth but because it suits our own selfish agenda's?

 

[JohnDB]

Imagine we're talking about your home. Squatters come in and start sleeping in your children's room, and eating from your kitchen, do you allow them to stay? Let's say you do. Then they bring in 20 more, who are sleeping in your house and eating from your kitchen. Will you give them your ATM card and pin number? Why or why not?

These answers directly pertain to the illegal immigrant issue. The leftists have said, yes, stay, and here's the bank account. No community needs an influx of criminals, and I mean all criminals, including illegal border crossers. They will do that, they'll likely do whatever they think they need to.

Much love!

There is a legal process that they are supposed to use.

It's difficult for me to go to work every day and struggle to pay my bills and take care of my household, and it's made significantly more difficult by the numbers of illegal aliens.

Life is difficult, that's no excuse to break the law.

Much love!

These things are the result of the manner the Democrats did things. Which I wholeheartedly disagree with how they were brought in.
I'm suggesting that we do better.

We need the people....we don't need the chaos which results from dumping people into an area. There does exist gubberment housing for these people...but they never built any. What little they had was overwhelmed immediately.

 

[marks]

We need the people....

Why?

Resources needed by US citizens are being denied to them, because they are going to illegals. My rent has gone up so much it's crazy, and according to many sources, a lot of that is because of illegals. Billions of dollars desparately needed by US citizens is being given to illegals. Jobs are being given to them instead of citizens. On and on it goes. What exactly is the benefit?

Much love!

 

[JohnDB]

Why?

Resources needed by US citizens are being denied to them, because they are going to illegals. My rent has gone up so much it's crazy, and according to many sources, a lot of that is because of illegals. Billions of dollars desparately needed by US citizens is being given to illegals. Jobs are being given to them instead of citizens. On and on it goes. What exactly is the benefit?

Much love!

Okay...
Of course you are in financial tight times. The economy is broken. The government has been lying and cheating in favor of big business. There are only 7 contractors building housing in the USA as all the independent contractors have retired or quit.
Only the giants remain and they now control the amount of open inventory available of all types.

The high interest rates are crushing construction and remodeling industries....meanwhile white envelope office space sits empty.

However, there is a change coming which includes a planned labor shortage.

We need to grow economically if we are to survive until such a time comes that our population becomes self sufficient and planned to be static. (It should but currently is not)

 

[marks]

Okay...
Of course you are in financial tight times. The economy is broken. The government has been lying and cheating in favor of big business. There are only 7 contractors building housing in the USA as all the independent contractors have retired or quit.
Only the giants remain and they now control the amount of open inventory available of all types.

The high interest rates are crushing construction and remodeling industries....meanwhile white envelope office space sits empty.

However, there is a change coming which includes a planned labor shortage.

We need to grow economically if we are to survive until such a time comes that our population becomes self sufficient and planned to be static. (It should but currently is not)

Actually we're talking about a mix, some who will work, and generally at far lower wages than citizens would receive, and each one is a job lost by a citizen. The majority become instant welfare cases, receiving taxpayer paid housing, food, phones, travel, medical care, legal representation, som much more. And there is another vast componant who are the hard core criminal element, robbing and raping and murdering our citizens.

Many of our younger citizens wonder what kinds of opportunities they may have in this nation, as they watch it's institutions being drained and degraded by the onslaught of illegal immigration. It's to the point that this is why they are not yet choosing to have children.

I'm of the opinion that we will grow economically and at a faster and more sustainable rate if we deport them, as according to the law of the land.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

So, your answer is to send them all back. Trump says that but I don't think he will actually deport 5k/ day for 4 years. You would have to find them, set up a task force of 20k agents, then what, bus them to the border and tell them, "Okay climb over the fense"? My question is, WWJD?

Trump is not going to deport them all as you well said .
He does like to talk at times .
But beware because i beleive a partial solution is gonna be sie digital one . the one they plan on the world itself as well .

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/whats-involved-in-trumps-border-plan/

The Trump deportation plan on his campaign website says he will reinstate the Remain in Mexico policy, invoke the Alien Enemies Act to remove all known and suspected criminals, bring back the travel ban to limit incoming migrants and refugees and take steps to remove those who have violated our laws.
So find and deport the criminals first! He said he would also hire 10k new agents to handle this.

 

[quietthinker]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/whats-involved-in-trumps-border-plan/

The Trump deportation plan on his campaign website says he will reinstate the Remain in Mexico policy, invoke the Alien Enemies Act to remove all known and suspected criminals, bring back the travel ban to limit incoming migrants and refugees and take steps to remove those who have violated our laws.
So find and deport the criminals first! He said he would also hire 10k new agents to handle this.

Drowning resident criminals not a good idea? At least some thought God thought it a good idea. Maybe it's better to lock them in with other criminals in an enclosed compound where they can learn from each other, refining their skills so that when they are released they'll be so much smarter?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Drowning resident criminals not a good idea? At least some thought God thought it a good idea. Maybe it's better to lock them in with other criminals in an enclosed compound where they can learn from each other, refining their skills so that when they are released they'll be so much smarter?

I always thought of a supplemental detourant to the wall, ten thousand crocs purchased from Down Under, spread out along the 1200 miles of the Rio Grande/ border section. The real evil and wicked criminals that Trump insists should receive capital punishment (which ends up costing us more than a life sentence), on their day of judgment, merely set them free to swim back over to the other side, kind of like Hunger Games. Again it is those severe, cartel fentinyl movers ( responsible for killing 50k kids/year), the murderous gangs, rapists ( oh _ in particular_ these guys get a free castration operation weeks before their journey, allowing enough time heal). We film it and broadcast internationally. It would save us lots of time, even having to hire ten thousand extra border agents. We must consider that these hungry beasts need to be fed regularly, so nations thinking about releasing their worst criminals onto oir soul- are welcome to offer them a nice vacation at the Rio Grande!