Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

[covenantee]

You conflate time periods. Now only the few Jews are saved. In the end all the nation of Israel will be saved.

There is not one NT Scripture reference to the salvation of the nation of Israel.

Not one.

You're clearly incapable of understanding who "all Israel" is.

So just leave it for those who can understand it.

 

[WPM]

D,

Did you remove a post?

Really? It is written throughout the Book. I showed you a few verses that you cannot even address. Many believe that He rules today. You cannot even acknowledge the texts that I presented to you. That is because they forbid your doctrine.

 

[WPM]

The reason you call some ignorant obviously false fantasy that Israel is now righteous and God is now ruling planet earth 'truth' is because you do not know the difference between lies and truth.

Thanks for displaying your unbelief.

Did I say that? No. If you want to introduce some new complete fantasy about God's kingdom in the 1000 years being 'overun by billions' I suppose you should clarify

It means He will be the dictator, the government. It does not mean what we have today.

No comparison to His coming kingdom. No weapons allowed. They beat their swords into farm instruments. No false teachings or wars or murders or etc etc etc allowed period. NOTHING like today

Who are the billions of satanists that overrun your future millennium then?

 

[dad]

There is not one NT Scripture reference to the salvation of the nation of Israel.

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

When is this? It tells us.
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Did you think the world or Israel now knows the Lord and has Him in their hearts??

A house is all the persons of a family of Israel in this case.

 

[dad]

Who are the billions of satanists that overrun your future millennium then?

Am I supposed to know what you are talking about? No one overuns anything ever after Jesus returns. There are some rebels at the end of the 1000 years stupid enough to surround a camp of saints. The saints get raptured I would think, and the rebels get fried. (along with the planet and He makes it new) End of rebellion.

 

[CadyandZoe]

There is not one NT Scripture reference to the salvation of the nation of Israel.

Not one.

You're clearly incapable of understanding who "all Israel" is.

So just leave it for those who can understand it.

Romans 11.

 

[covenantee]

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

When is this? It tells us.
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Did you think the world or Israel now knows the Lord and has Him in their hearts??

A house is all the persons of a family of Israel in this case.

Fulfilled.

Past and present tenses.

Hebrews 8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

 

[covenantee]

Romans 11.

Post 474.

Leave it for those who can understand it.

 

[WPM]

Am I supposed to know what you are talking about? No one overuns anything ever after Jesus returns. There are some rebels at the end of the 1000 years stupid enough to surround a camp of saints. The saints get raptured I would think, and the rebels get fried. (along with the planet and He makes it new) End of rebellion.

There you go again, trying to dilute the detail of Scripture to support your beliefs. Read the text. Let the Bible speak for itself.

These satanists are so vast they number as "the sand of the sea." Do you take this literal or spiritualize it away?

The millennium you portray is delusional. It will never happen. It has been ongoing since the first resurrection of Jesus christ.

 

[WPM]

Am I supposed to know what you are talking about? No one overuns anything ever after Jesus returns. There are some rebels at the end of the 1000 years stupid enough to surround a camp of saints. The saints get raptured I would think, and the rebels get fried. (along with the planet and He makes it new) End of rebellion.

What you describe that happens after Satan’s season, actually corresponds with the second coming. Check 2 Peter 3 and 1 Thess 5. This reinforces Amil.

You have zero Scripture that corroborate the Premil view as happening 1000 years after the second coming.

 

[dad]

Fulfilled.

Past and present tenses.

Hebrews 8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

No Israel is anything but saved today. Dream on

 

[dad]

There you go again, trying to dilute the detail of Scripture to support your beliefs. Read the text. Let the Bible speak for itself.

These satanists are so vast they number as "the sand of the sea." Do you take this literal or spiritualize it away?

The millennium you portray is delusional. It will never happen. It has been ongoing since the first resurrection of Jesus christ.

Who cares how many imbeciles there are at the end of the 1000 years? They get flicked away and burned in a moment. No more foolin around.

 

[dad]

What you describe that happens after Satan’s season, actually corresponds with the second coming. Check 2 Peter 3 and 1 Thess 5. This reinforces Amil.

You have zero Scripture that corroborate the Premil view as happening 1000 years after the second coming.

Now you claim the world is burned up and a new one is made when Jesus returns? Add that to your 'silly list' I guess

 

[WPM]

Who cares how many imbeciles there are at the end of the 1000 years? They get flicked away and burned in a moment. No more foolin around.

It totally demolishes your narrative of some future millennium bliss.

 

[WPM]

Now you claim the world is burned up and a new one is made when Jesus returns? Add that to your 'silly list' I guess

So, what happens at the end of your imaginary future millennium?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Post 474.

Leave it for those who can understand it.

I don't accept your "spiritual" (imaginary) interpretation of the passage. Why? Because your explanation doesn't follow from what Paul said earlier, and it needs to be more consistent with his argument.

This is a plausible non-sequitur. In other words, while your interpretation of the one or two verses you cited is plausible, it doesn't fit with the rest of the passage. In other words, it fails to understand what Paul means to say. When one takes a few verses out of context one can make them say whatever one wants to hear.

 

[dad]

It totally demolishes your narrative of some future millennium bliss.

I never even mentioned that. Add that to your 'another made up strawman' pile

 

[dad]

So, what happens at the end of your imaginary future millennium?

I think your statement of unbelief in prophesy here speaks for itself.

 

[covenantee]

I don't accept your "spiritual" (imaginary) interpretation of the passage. Why? Because your explanation doesn't follow from what Paul said earlier, and it needs to be more consistent with his argument.

This is a plausible non-sequitur. In other words, while your interpretation of the one or two verses you cited is plausible, it doesn't fit with the rest of the passage. In other words, it fails to understand what Paul means to say. When one takes a few verses out of context one can make them say whatever one wants to hear.

How are spiritual truths imaginary?

What did Paul say earlier?

What was his argument?

What doesn't fit?

How do you know more of what Paul means to say than what Paul knows of what Paul means to say?

What context are you referring to?

I said to leave it for those who understand it.

So leave it for those who understand it.

 

[covenantee]

No Israel is anything but saved today. Dream on

The remnant of Israel is saved today. That is the only Israel that is and shall be saved. Wake up.

Romans 11
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Romans 9
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: