Gog and Magog of Ezekiel and Revelation are not the same.

[tailgator]

So you believe Israel is the antichrist. Okay then. You have your own version of the bible, because the Word of God declares the beast is a man.

If Israel is the beast how do they take the mark the beast demands others to wear?

How do you know within a couople of years.

What is that mark?

The mark will be what netanyahu said he wants all Israel's to receive a few years ago.
He want them all to recieve microchips.

It will most likely be next year after president Trump gives Israel the armed forces.Trump believes he is the only one who can save Israel and has said as much.He says he will work to make sure Israel exists for thousands of years.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Actually an antichrist is someone who denies Jesus is the Christ.

The country called Israel in the middle east was founded for people who deny Jesus.

Any Jew who denies Christ has the right to return under the right to return law.
Any Jew who acknowledges Christ is not considered a Jew and is not covered by that law

Well there are antichrists, but there is also THE Antichrist and the bible makes it clear that it is a man.

And you are wrong about christian Jews, they freely can enter and live in Israel.

The mark will be what netanyahu said he wants all Israel's to receive a few years ago.
He want them all to recieve microchips.

Now prove that is his name or the3 number of his name which the bible declares is 666. and please cite your source that says Netanyahu wants all Israelis to receive a mark. and anyway, the mark will be global and not just limited to Israel.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It will most likely be next year after president Trump gives Israel the armed forces.Trump believes he is the only one who can save Israel and has said as much.He says he will work to make sure Israel exists for thousands of years.

God has insured that the nation and people of Israel shall exist forever!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

God has insured that the nation and people of Israel shall exist forever!

Oh, really? And how will that happen in light of what Peter wrote here:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

I don't see how any nation will survive the burning up of the earth. You should rethink this.

 

[tailgator]

Well there are antichrists, but there is also THE Antichrist and the bible makes it clear that it is a man.

And you are wrong about christian Jews, they freely can enter and live in Israel.

Now prove that is his name or the3 number of his name which the bible declares is 666. and please cite your source that says Netanyahu wants all Israelis to receive a mark. and anyway, the mark will be global and not just limited to Israel.

No,Netanyahu only wants to give his mark to the people in Israel.Not people all over the world.But I'm.sure if you would like to get his mark,you could probably go to Israel and get his mark.

Mark of the king of Israel ,King of the Jews.
Netanyahu seems to be alot like Herod ,who also thought he was king of the Jews.

 

[tailgator]

God has insured that the nation and people of Israel shall exist forever!

Well,Trump says he will .Trump says he is the only one who can keep Israel safe.

Trump will continue to fulfill the prophecy of Trump.

 

[tailgator]

Well there are antichrists, but there is also THE Antichrist and the bible makes it clear that it is a man.

And you are wrong about christian Jews, they freely can enter and live in Israel.

Now prove that is his name or the3 number of his name which the bible declares is 666. and please cite your source that says Netanyahu wants all Israelis to receive a mark. and anyway, the mark will be global and not just limited to Israel.

Oh ,and PS
According to scripture,no one in Israel will be able to buy or sell without the mark,so it looks like it will be a part of netanyahus cashless society.Hes been working on that for a long time now in an effort to collect more taxes.

Like Solomon ,king of Israel's 666 tax,Netanyahu wants everyone to pay up.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Oh, really? And how will that happen in light of what Peter wrote here:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

I don't see how any nation will survive the burning up of the earth. You should rethink this.

Well as that ends time and begins eternity, it will just be a matter of swapping the tem poral for the eternal.

Why do you accept this as literal but reject when God says Israel will be the home for the nation of Israel forever? I accept both as literal and realize it is just a swapping.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No,Netanyahu only wants to give his mark to the people in Israel.Not people all over the world.But I'm.sure if you would like to get his mark,you could probably go to Israel and get his mark.

Mark of the king of Israel ,King of the Jews.
Netanyahu seems to be alot like Herod ,who also thought he was king of the Jews.

Well the mark of the beast in the bible is a global mark not just a mark for Jews! So what Netanyahu does or does not do is irrelevant Well as Netanyahu is not a king and knows He is not, your point is moot.

Well,Trump says he will .Trump says he is the only one who can keep Israel safe.

Trump will continue to fulfill the prophecy of Trump.

Well Trumps declarations do not "trump" Gods declarations. Since 1948 it has been god who has kept Israel safe! Whether He uses nations or not is irrelevant, it is HIm who oversees the safety of Israel while He is purging the rebels and judging the nation

Oh ,and PS
According to scripture,no one in Israel will be able to buy or sell without the mark,so it looks like it will be a part of netanyahus cashless society.Hes been working on that for a long time now in an effort to collect more taxes.

Like Solomon ,king of Israel's 666 tax,Netanyahu wants everyone to pay up.

It is global and not just in the land of Israel.

Revelation 13:6-14

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6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 14:6-9

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6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

The antichrist rules the world not just Israel.
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[Spiritual Israelite]

Well as that ends time and begins eternity, it will just be a matter of swapping the tem poral for the eternal.

Why do you accept this as literal but reject when God says Israel will be the home for the nation of Israel forever? I accept both as literal and realize it is just a swapping.

Not really following you here. How can the land of Israel be eternal if it's burned up?

 

[tailgator]

Well the mark of the beast in the bible is a global mark not just a mark for Jews! So what Netanyahu does or does not do is irrelevant Well as Netanyahu is not a king and knows He is not, your point is moot.

Well Trumps declarations do not "trump" Gods declarations. Since 1948 it has been god who has kept Israel safe! Whether He uses nations or not is irrelevant, it is HIm who oversees the safety of Israel while He is purging the rebels and judging the nation

It is global and not just in the land of Israel.

Revelation 13:6-14​

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6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 14:6-9​

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6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

The antichrist rules the world not just Israel.
.

False
The king of Babylon only rules Babylon.He does not govern Persia or the Medes.
The only people of the nations which the beast rules over are they who have the followed after the beast.

The beast does not govern them who do not follow after it


And just so you know.It is the Jews in Israel who have immigrated from all nations who are they who followed after the beast.



The mark of the beast is not worldwide.
It's only in the land of Israel and given to them who have gathered there.

 

[tailgator]

Well the mark of the beast in the bible is a global mark not just a mark for Jews! So what Netanyahu does or does not do is irrelevant Well as Netanyahu is not a king and knows He is not, your point is moot.

Well Trumps declarations do not "trump" Gods declarations. Since 1948 it has been god who has kept Israel safe! Whether He uses nations or not is irrelevant, it is HIm who oversees the safety of Israel while He is purging the rebels and judging the nation

It is global and not just in the land of Israel.

Revelation 13:6-14​

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6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 14:6-9​

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6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

The antichrist rules the world not just Israel.
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Jesus says everyone who does not believe the gospel is condemned

But according to your gospel ,all Jews in Israel will be saved .Even everyone who rejects Christ and the gospel.Gays,lesbians,thieves,murderers.You believe all the unbelievers in Israel are saved from Gog.




Mark 16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.





Where did you hear your new gospel that all unbelieving Jews in Israel will be saved?Did you make it up yourself or did someone teach you this new gospel?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not really following you here. How can the land of Israel be eternal if it's burned up?

Because it is created anew! And the new Israel belongs to Israel as an eternal possession.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

False
The king of Babylon only rules Babylon.He does not govern Persia or the Medes.
The only people of the nations which the beast rules over are they who have the followed after the beast.

The beast does not govern them who do not follow after it


And just so you know.It is the Jews in Israel who have immigrated from all nations who are they who followed after the beast.



The mark of the beast is not worldwide.
It's only in the land of Israel and given to them who have gathered there.

I showed you from the Word of God that it is global, you are now responsible to God and His Word, never to me.

Jesus says everyone who does not believe the gospel is condemned

But according to your gospel ,all Jews in Israel will be saved .Even everyone who rejects Christ and the gospel.Gays,lesbians,thieves,murderers.You believe all the unbelievers in Israel are saved from Gog.

First stop lying! I di dnot say all Jews in Israel will be saved. I did show you from the Word of God that the remanat that survive the tribulation Will be saved. You have a problem with gods Word! NOt me.

But I will post them again in case yo0u missed it the first time!

Zechariah 13:8-9

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Ezekiel 20:33-38

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Jeremiah 31:31-38

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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
38 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to the Lord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
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Romans 11:25-29

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

This is what God said. Thgis is the all Israel that will be saved!

 

[tailgator]

I showed you from the Word of God that it is global, you are now responsible to God and His Word, never to me.

First stop lying! I di dnot say all Jews in Israel will be saved. I did show you from the Word of God that the remanat that survive the tribulation Will be saved. You have a problem with gods Word! NOt me.

But I will post them again in case yo0u missed it the first time!

Zechariah 13:8-9​

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Ezekiel 20:33-38​

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Jeremiah 31:31-38​

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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
38 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to the Lord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
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Romans 11:25-29​

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

This is what God said. Thgis is the all Israel that will be saved!

False
The word of God does not say the mark of the beast is global.

In fact after the beast is slain and his body given to the burning flame,the other beasts continue their lives.If the other beasts had received the mark of the beast ,then they all would be cast into the fire.But they are not.

Daniel 7
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.



Now what you are ignoring in the scripture you post is the fact that the world followed after the beast which is already being fulfilled.Peoples from all nations ,tongues and peoples have already followed after the beast .They immigrated to Israel.This is fulfilled before the second beast of revelation 13 even arrives in Israel.



You also mistake following after the beast for being gathered by God. You believe if a Jew buys an airline ticket and immigrates to Israel to live with other unbelievers ,that God has gathered those unbelievers.This is also false.

 

[tailgator]

I showed you from the Word of God that it is global, you are now responsible to God and His Word, never to me.

First stop lying! I di dnot say all Jews in Israel will be saved. I did show you from the Word of God that the remanat that survive the tribulation Will be saved. You have a problem with gods Word! NOt me.

But I will post them again in case yo0u missed it the first time!

Zechariah 13:8-9​

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Ezekiel 20:33-38​

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Jeremiah 31:31-38​

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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
38 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to the Lord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
Read full chapter

Romans 11:25-29​

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

This is what God said. Thgis is the all Israel that will be saved!

PS
Ezekiel 38-39 does not contain a tribulation.
The saints of Israel in Ezekiel 38-39 are all safe.
None of them can be killed and none of them are killed.

Ezekiel 38
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?


You can not kill anyone who is under God's protection.They are literally immortal and completely safe

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Because it is created anew! And the new Israel belongs to Israel as an eternal possession.

I was talking about the land of Israel as it exists now. So, you acknowledge that it will be burned up and "created anew"? That's what will happen to the whole earth, resulting in the new earth that will be the possession of all of God's people for eternity.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Many brethren on this forum have come out and declared that the Gog invasion of Ezekiel and Revelation are one and the same. Let us look at Scripture and see that they are completely different and the only similarity is the name' s Gog and Magog.

Yes indeed brother, God wrote the book of Revelation and used the Old Testament to encode info unto us in various ways. Rev. 17 = Daniel chapter 5. The Four Horses were lifted from Zechariah, likewise we get the same thing with Gog & Magog with one difference most people just never grasp, BOTH Gog & Magog and the LIKE MINDED Gog event's in Rev. 20 are still future, that is the only difference at all. Dan. 5 happened when Babylon fell, (Mene mene tekel) and the Four Horses was fulfilled sometime Before Christ came.

Well having been to Isreael and knowing people living there I can testify they are living in peace and safety. Yes there is rockets and attacks but life for over 95% of Israel is normal and secure. They trust their armed forces.

Israel has no walls. the kibbutzim are all unwalled even in the border regions. th eonly wall built was at Gaza and that was not to protect the people but to keep Palestinians out.

The Jewish state of Israel is extraordinarily prosperous. They have made the desert bloom like a rose and have massive exports of produce and technology. With the finds of oil and gas, Israel is prosperous.

Exactly spot on, but I will add in more to this hot take. Ezekiel was speaking in a mannerism in which his constituents would best understand Israel would be AT PEACE, because no city in his time would even consider building without a wall to fortify it from possible intruders. So, that imho, is a euphemism.

Are Israel at peace today, yes, for the first time in over 2500 years (597 BC) Israel are not under anyone's thumb, nor are they threatened by ANYONE that might conquer them, because they have Nukes and a far better army than Iran. No nations now surrounding Israel has had any chance of conquering Israel since they took the Golan Heights in 1973. Before 1973 we had the Psalm 83 "wars/skirmishes" in which no winner is ever declared, its a standoff, they all try to push Israel into the sea and never succeed, we know who they are via the names, today they would be Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, the Saudis and Egypt amongst a few others like UAE et. al. But now all those nations and Israel are confederates because of Iran, that is why none of those nations take part in the Gog & Mago war. Psalm 83 has passed, in 1979 Egypt and Israel signed a peace agreement, that basically ended Psalm 83. They still had terrorist groups attacking them, but so does the USA. But without Egypt there was no hoping in ever defeating Israel, and after they gained the Golan Heights the threat was 100 percent over.

So, for the first time in over 2500 years Israel is AT PEACE, no one tells the Israelis what they can or can not do, whom they have to pay taxes unto, what God (even gods) they must serve. And via the Abraham Accords, a real peace is lined up where Israel and all her immediate neighbors are unified against Iran, however when Russia and Turkey join Iran God has going to BBQ 5/6 of their armies on the holy mt. of God for all mankind to see. He may use the E.U. to help and Satan may try to take credit saying the E.U. did this, thats how the AC may get Israel to join the E.U. (The Dn. 9:27 Agreement).

 

[tailgator]

Yes indeed brother, God wrote the book of Revelation and used the Old Testament to encode info unto us in various ways. Rev. 17 = Daniel chapter 5. The Four Horses were lifted from Zechariah, likewise we get the same thing with Gog & Magog with one difference most people just never grasp, BOTH Gog & Magog and the LIKE MINDED Gog event's in Rev. 20 are still future, that is the only difference at all. Dan. 5 happened when Babylon fell, (Mene mene tekel) and the Four Horses was fulfilled sometime Before Christ came.


Exactly spot on, but I will add in more to this hot take. Ezekiel was speaking in a mannerism in which his constituents would best understand Israel would be AT PEACE, because no city in his time would even consider building without a wall to fortify it from possible intruders. So, that imho, is a euphemism.

Are Israel at peace today, yes, for the first time in over 2500 years (597 BC) Israel are not under anyone's thumb, nor are they threatened by ANYONE that might conquer them, because they have Nukes and a far better army than Iran. No nations now surrounding Israel has had any chance of conquering Israel since they took the Golan Heights in 1973. Before 1973 we had the Psalm 83 "wars/skirmishes" in which no winner is ever declared, its a standoff, they all try to push Israel into the sea and never succeed, we know who they are via the names, today they would be Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, the Saudis and Egypt amongst a few others like UAE et. al. But now all those nations and Israel are confederates because of Iran, that is why none of those nations take part in the Gog & Mago war. Psalm 83 has passed, in 1979 Egypt and Israel signed a peace agreement, that basically ended Psalm 83. They still had terrorist groups attacking them, but so does the USA. But without Egypt there was no hoping in ever defeating Israel, and after they gained the Golan Heights the threat was 100 percent over.

So, for the first time in over 2500 years Israel is AT PEACE, no one tells the Israelis what they can or can not do, whom they have to pay taxes unto, what God (even gods) they must serve. And via the Abraham Accords, a real peace is lined up where Israel and all her immediate neighbors are unified against Iran, however when Russia and Turkey join Iran God has going to BBQ 5/6 of their armies on the holy mt. of God for all mankind to see. He may use the E.U. to help and Satan may try to take credit saying the E.U. did this, thats how the AC may get Israel to join the E.U. (The Dn. 9:27 Agreement).

You believe Israel is at peace while Israel says they are at war.

How many more Israelis,Palestinians and Lebanese must die before you realize Israel is not at peace?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I was talking about the land of Israel as it exists now. So, you acknowledge that it will be burned up and "created anew"? That's what will happen to the whole earth, resulting in the new earth that will be the possession of all of God's people for eternity.

And the new Israel will be for the saved Jews! that is what the bible says without any reinterpreting it.