Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

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You have attacked me every since I posted this scripture, and have refused to address the actual words of these passages.

Sir, I have posted the same scripture and the instruction from John. You have posted nothing but insults.

Why are you so angry. Why are you rejecting the words of Jesus?

You will have to do better than hurling insults at me, and posting your opinion that drips with anger and hatred.


If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6


Remain in Him = Fruitful; like a branch that remains in the vine, receiving the life of the vine and thus producing the intended fruit.

Removed from Him = wither and die; cast into the fire and burned.


Here is how we are instructed to remain in Christ --


Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24


His commandments are about love; loving God and loving people.

  • By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3

  • For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.

If you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15


Those who don't follow and remain in the teaching of Christ, do not have God.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9






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I'm sorry to hear that you were insulted by my simple question, where I asked if you could explain how you arrived at the conclusion that "if you" means "I instruct you".
You have consistently failed to answer the simple question, and you have instead used other unrelated verses in an attempt to muddy the water.

There's no point in moving on to deal with other verses, while you're unable to understand what the simple word "if" means. You can't move on to eating meat until you've been whined off the milk.

I have been asking you to correct me if I'm wrong. I love to be corrected, but a fool is insulted and offended when someone corrects him. I'm happy to move onto other verses, after we have established what John 15:6 is saying
 

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Ah, spoken like a true cultist; that's exactly what cultists think. It's a little unclear to me what exactly you mean when you speak of this "new revelation," but I'm not interested in pursuing that.

Grace and peace to you.
Do you mean you are not interested in pursuing any revelation? Or just the endless new ongoing revelation that Jesus Christ is offering and delivering to the saints for the building up of His body and to grow it til it becomes fully grown, mature, lacking no good gift and fruit?
 

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Do you mean you are not interested in pursuing any revelation? Or just the endless new ongoing revelation that Jesus Christ is offering and delivering to the saints for the building up of His body and to grow it til it becomes fully grown, mature, lacking no good gift and fruit?
Please let me know where I can find out about this new revelation, that Jesus is offering. The revelation of Jesus Christ, ended with the last book of the Bible.

You must be talking about some other Jesus. Remember Jesus said, many false christs would come in His name. Do you ignore that warning because it's not convenient for you to embrace
 

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Please let me know where I can find out about this new revelation, that Jesus is offering.
He is a Person, not a thing you go to to find information. Not google, not a book in a library.

You have the Spirit in you don't you? It's easy. Just ask your Divine Companion. He's very approachable, kind, gentle and generous with the truths He has at His disposal.
The revelation of Jesus Christ, ended with the last book of the Bible.
Who told you that? That is the most strange thing ive heard for a long time.

after my wife and i were married i had to go away for work for a time. I wrote her letters to let her know what i was doing and how much i loved her.
Years down the track she's still not reading those letters to know what I'm doing. I've moved on from that situation now and I'm doing additional thing. And I tell and show her that I love her in person. My love for her has grown and matured and changed.

i show my love for her in different ways now. Those letters can't reveal it.

We didn't have children back then. I didn't get up during the night and nurse her (our) children when she was sick anincapable to do it. Those letters failed to portray my future acts of love for her way back then.

I show her in in real time, in the present.

So does Jesus through His present Spirit in real time with new expressions of love and new information (revelation).
 

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Do you mean you are not interested in pursuing any revelation? Or just the endless new ongoing revelation that Jesus Christ is offering and delivering to the saints for the building up of His body and to grow it til it becomes fully grown, mature, lacking no good gift and fruit?
Please let me know where I can find out about this new revelation, that Jesus is offering. The revelation of Jesus Christ, ended with the last book of the Bible.

You must be talking about some other Jesus. Remember Jesus said, many false christs would come in His name. Do you ignore that warning because it's not convenient for you to

He is a Person, not a thing you go to to find information. Not google, not a book in a library.

You have the Spirit in you don't you? It's easy. Just ask your Divine Companion. He's very approachable, kind, gentle and generous with the truths He has at His disposal.

Who told you that? That is the most strange thing ive heard for a long time.

after my wife and i were married i had to go away for work for a time. I wrote her letters to let her know what i was doing and how much i loved her.
Years down the track she's still not reading those letters to know what I'm doing. I've moved on from that situation now and I'm doing additional thing. And I tell and show her that I love her in person. My love for her has grown and matured and changed.

i show my love for her in different ways now. Those letters can't reveal it.

We didn't have children back then. I didn't get up during the night and nurse her (our) children when she was sick anincapable to do it. Those letters failed to portray my future acts of love for her way back then.

I show her in in real time, in the present.

So does Jesus through His present Spirit in real time with new expressions of love and new information (revelation).

He is a Person, not a thing you go to to find information. Not google, not a book in a library.

You have the Spirit in you don't you? It's easy. Just ask your Divine Companion. He's very approachable, kind, gentle and generous with the truths He has at His disposal.

Who told you that? That is the most strange thing ive heard for a long time.

after my wife and i were married i had to go away for work for a time. I wrote her letters to let her know what i was doing and how much i loved her.
Years down the track she's still not reading those letters to know what I'm doing. I've moved on from that situation now and I'm doing additional thing. And I tell and show her that I love her in person. My love for her has grown and matured and changed.

i show my love for her in different ways now. Those letters can't reveal it.

We didn't have children back then. I didn't get up during the night and nurse her (our) children when she was sick anincapable to do it. Those letters failed to portray my future acts of love for her way back then.

I show her in in real time, in the present.

So does Jesus through His present Spirit in real time with new expressions of love and new information (revelation).
I know He is a Person but you can't communicate with Him to get any extra biblical revelation. He is in heaven, and you don't have His phone number or address. So you're only fooling yourself, if you think He communicates with you.

The truth of the matter is, that the Devil comes to people who seek an audience with Christ. The Devil comes disguised as Jesus, or an Angel of light. But He doesn't come to give them any true revelation, He comes to indoctrinate them with the soul destroying poison known as the "doctrine of Demons" His revelation destroys the person.

It's funny how you don't even know what Jesus did reveal when He was here 2000 years ago, yet you seek new revelation while ignoring what He did reveal. This approach leaves you at the mercy of the Devil, who will take advantage and use your ignorance as a weapon against you.

You should never use a mans love for his wife, as a example of Gods love for His children. Because the love you have for your wife is corrupt, it conditional an many things. Gods love for His children is only conditional on His nature and we know there is no corruption in Him, so there's no comparison between fallen mans corrupt love and God perfect love.

Jesus' Spirit is still exactly the same as it was 2000 years ago, unlike you He never changes anything about Himself. So His Children have the assurance that He will always love them just as much as He did 2000 years ago. Your love is here today and gone tomorrow, because you found someone else who is younger better looking. But Jesus loves us the same in our old age as He did when we were young and beautiful.

No man loves his wife as he ought, our love is tainted with sin. So it's unpredictable, Gods love for His children is predictable and reliable, it never changes no matter what sin we commit.
 

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I know He is a Person but you can't communicate with Him to get any extra biblical revelation.
Wow! That is such a strange concept. I thought you would at least know, from the bible you use, that Jesus would communicate with you, as a shepherd would their sheep. A father his child. A spirit to their host.

He is in heaven, and you don't have His phone number or address.
The fantastic thing is that the Spirit is in me and i see the evidence of His presence. I hear Him communicating with me. Is He in you and do you see the evidence of His presence in you, like hearing Him communicating with you?
So you're only fooling yourself, if you think He communicates with you.
The ongoing daily communication between the Spirit of the Christ and me is beautiful. We laugh together, cry together, we talk, we stay in silence together. He reveals truth to me and I respond. You can have this amazing relationship with Him too.
The truth of the matter is, that the Devil comes to people who seek an audience with Christ. The Devil comes disguised as Jesus, or an Angel of light.
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But He doesn't come to give them any true revelation, He comes to indoctrinate them with the soul destroying poison known as the "doctrine of Demons" His revelation destroys the person.
You are probably right. I've never experienced it. What's it like to be indoctrinated with doctrine of Demons?
It's funny how you don't even know what Jesus did reveal when He was here 2000 years ago, yet you seek new revelation while ignoring what He did reveal.
I didn't have a relationship with Jesus 2000 years ago. My children may think I'm old but I'm not that old.

Actually even those who were with Jesus all his life didn't know everything about him, what he did and taught let alone document it all to pass on to following generations.

This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. Jhn 21:24
This approach leaves you at the mercy of the Devil, who will take advantage and use your ignorance as a weapon against you.
Not here my friend. You should know what was documented concerning what the Sheperd said to His sheep.....
When he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. Jhn 10:4&5
You should never use a mans love for his wife, as a example of Gods love for His children. Because the love you have for your wife is corrupt, it conditional an many things. Gods love for His children is only conditional on His nature and we know there is no corruption in Him, so there's no comparison between fallen mans corrupt love and God perfect love.
I already have used this example. It's a bit late.
Jesus' Spirit is still exactly the same as it was 2000 years ago, unlike you He never changes anything about Himself. So His Children have the assurance that He will always love them just as much as He did 2000 years ago. Your love is here today and gone tomorrow, because you found someone else who is younger better looking. But Jesus loves us the same in our old age as He did when we were young and beautiful.

No man loves his wife as he ought, our love is tainted with sin. So it's unpredictable, Gods love for His children is predictable and reliable, it never changes no matter what sin we commit.
Are you ever reading but never seeing and perceiving? I think you may have missed the meaning of my story altogether. But hey, that's up to the Spirit to open eyes of the blind not mine.
 
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I think you are both right. Yes, there's a lot of deception in the world, folk believing they "have the Spirit" and a new revelation, yet it is another spirit altogether. On the other hand, indeed Jesus lived on earth 2000 years ago, but no-one could claim they know everything there is to know of Him. A relationship with Jesus is essential if we want to grow and learn and understand Him better. What He reveals to us won't be new, but it will be a fuller appreciation of what the scriptures already have, and our understanding enlightened to the truth therein. In that sense, it will be a new revelation.
 
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Do you mean you are not interested in pursuing any revelation? Or just the endless new ongoing revelation that Jesus Christ is offering and delivering to the saints for the building up of His body and to grow it til it becomes fully grown, mature, lacking no good gift and fruit?
No, just this particular line of conversation with you, O2Q.

Grace and peace to you.
 

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I think you are both right. Yes, they'd a lot of deception in the world, folk believing they "have the Spirit" and a new revelation, yet it is another spirit altogether. On the other hand, indeed Jesus lived on earth 2000 years ago, but no-one could claim they know everything there is to know of Him. A rising with Jesus's is essential if we want to grow and learn and understand Him better. What He reveals to us won't be new, but it will be a fuller appreciationof what the scriptures already have, and our understanding enlightened to the truth therein. In that sense, it will be a new revelation.
My suggestion is that you use the term 'I' or 'me' not 'us' or 'our'. As what Jesus the Christ reveals to me and how He does that, appears to be different to you.

Revelation comes to me, unlike you, not from the scriptures, not from the bible.

The Spirit of the Christ interacts with my spirit, not through a medium, but directly.

Over the past 3 years (not accessing the bible) He has graciously delivered revelation after revelation. These new revelations have been like seeds that have grown day after day manifesting new aspects of these new revelations.

I would encourage anyone to seek truth straight from the Divine Father, the source of all truth. I understand that some people may need to get knowledge second hand via a go between, a teacher, prophet but I don't.

If my dad, a plumber, plumbed a never ending supply of pure water into my house where I can access water at any time, where once I had to go to the shops to buy water, why would I. What would this action be saying to my dad? Dad, I don't appreciate what you've done. I don't want what you've provided.

I won't be doing that to my heavenly Father. I really appreciate what He has done and Who He has provided, the giving of His Spirit of Truth.
 
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No, just this particular line of conversation with you, O2Q.

Grace and peace to you.
Would you rather talk about the fruit of the Spirit of Truth being produced in, through and on the branches, the elect?

Those who the Creators have elected for particular purposes.

What are those purposes?

Who's responsible for carrying them out?

Why are they being carried out?

Testimonies from the elect of their individual personal experiences of carrying out the purposes of the Divine Gardener.

What would you rather discuss my friend?
 

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Wow! That is such a strange concept. I thought you would at least know, from the bible you use, that Jesus would communicate with you, as a shepherd would their sheep. A father his child. A spirit to their host.


The fantastic thing is that the Spirit is in me and i see the evidence of His presence. I hear Him communicating with me. Is He in you and do you see the evidence of His presence in you, like hearing Him communicating with you?

The ongoing daily communication between the Spirit of the Christ and me is beautiful. We laugh together, cry together, we talk, we stay in silence together. He reveals truth to me and I respond. You can have this amazing relationship with Him too.

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You are probably right. I've never experienced it. What's it like to be indoctrinated with doctrine of Demons?

I didn't have a relationship with Jesus 2000 years ago. My children may think I'm old but I'm not that old.

Actually even those who were with Jesus all his life didn't know everything about him, what he did and taught let alone document it all to pass on to following generations.

This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. Jhn 21:24

Not here my friend. You should know what was documented concerning what the Sheperd said to His sheep.....
When he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. Jhn 10:4&5

I already have used this example. It's a bit late.

Are you ever reading but never seeing and perceiving? I think you may have missed the meaning of my story altogether. But hey, that's up to the Spirit to open eyes of the blind not mine.
I don't know how what makes you think that Jesus would communicate with me as a Shepherd, to His Sheep or Father to His Child, or Spirit to His Host. These are very strange and dangerous unbiblical concepts, which lead you into delusion.

Why do you reject God's order and try to impose your order over God's. God has appointed Shepherds to teach and lead and watch over us dumb Sheep, Jesus is not your Shepherd. He is in heaven, He hasn't said a word to us in 2000 years, so you must be talking to a Devil posing as Christ. Jesus warned that this would happen when He left the earth.


Jesus has been silent for 2000 years, because He has nothing to talk to us about and we should have have nothing to ask Him. Are you suggesting that His work on the earth was left unfinished so you need to harass Him and remind Him about all the unfinished work. Leave Jesus alone and stop bothering Him, get on with your life and do those things He told His followers to do.

Instead of bothering Jesus, why don't you go and help the poor, visit the sick, contribute to the life of the Church, be a faithful witness and bare a good testimony and do all the other good works He taught His followers to do. You don't get to have a private audience with Jesus, to share your opinions and concerns with Him. He's not interested inn your private oppini9ons about anything, He just wants you to trust and obey the gospel and stop bothering Him with silly questions.

When Jesus ascended to heaven, He sent the Comforter to His followers. He didn't give anyone His cellphone number, because He doesn't want to be bothered by prank callers, scammers and annoying tele marketers. You were never given special privileges to talk with Him or summon Him to a private audience with you.

Jesus left His followers with the gospel and the Comforter, He didn't leave us with anything else. So to claim that He is still revealing extra biblical revelation is ludicrous. His followers pray to God, in His name but not to Him personally. He intercedes on behalf of those He saved, He is the mediator s we don't pray to the mediator, we pray to the Father in the name of our Lord and savior.

The Comforter-Holy Spirit, leads us in prayer, He guides our prayers because we don't know what to pray for so Jesus had to send His Hoy Spirit to lead us in everything because we are dumb Sheep who don't know anything.

I absolutely agree with what you said about the Holy Spirit working in our lives and communicating with us. He does speak with us, through His Spiritual voice and we hear Him and He does guide us into all truth. Christs Holy Spirit is sympathetic towards us, He knows we are weak and utterly dependent on Him for everything. He knows we rely on Him for our next breath and that we can do nothing without Him.

We have to remember that there is nothing about us that God loves, the best we can offer God is our filthy stinking rags. That's why God doesn't love any man, He only loves His Son and those in Him receive the benefits of that love. We have to completely die to ourself, and the Holy Spirit must fully posses us before we can be partakers of the Love God has for His Son.

Let's not pretend that Jesus is our buddy, we were all God haters and enemies of God. He has to slay us before we can be joined to His Spiritual Body. No filthy or foul thing can abide in His body. Some fools think that God loves them, while the truth is God only loves Himself, there is nothing lovable about filthy stinking rags.

There are no new revelations, Jesus has been silent for 2000 years. The only new revelations you can get are from the Devil
 

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Would you rather talk about the fruit of the Spirit of Truth being produced in, through and on the branches, the elect?

Those who the Creators have elected for particular purposes.

What are those purposes?

Who's responsible for carrying them out?

Why are they being carried out?

Testimonies from the elect of their individual personal experiences of carrying out the purposes of the Divine Gardener.

What would you rather discuss my friend?
Answer all those questions yourself, O2Q. If you want, of course. I mean, I could, but I'm not sitting for questioning, or any kind of interrogation. But if you do, then, dispense with your "Look-at-me-I'm-so-spiritually-superior" attitude, if so. :) If you want to have an earnest conversation, then... maybe. :)

Grace and peace to you.
 
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I think you are both right. Yes, they'd a lot of deception in the world, folk believing they "have the Spirit" and a new revelation, yet it is another spirit altogether. On the other hand, indeed Jesus lived on earth 2000 years ago, but no-one could claim they know everything there is to know of Him. A rising with Jesus's is essential if we want to grow and learn and understand Him better. What He reveals to us won't be new, but it will be a fuller appreciationof what the scriptures already have, and our understanding enlightened to the truth therein. In that sense, it will be a new revelation.
I see what you mean, from our perspective, everything is new as we grow in the knowledge of our Lord. But we are learning the same old things which every other believer before us learned. So we don't learn anything new and we don't receive any new revelation, it has all existed in the exact same form for every believer for the past 2000 years.

To suggest that that we can discover something new that has not been discovered by those who proceeded us is foolish and ignorant in the extreme. Everyone has the same old gospel message, there is only one and it has never been modified and nothing has ever been added to it.

 

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Answer all those questions yourself, O2Q. If you want, of course. I mean, I could, but I'm not sitting for questioning, or any kind of interrogation. But if you do, then, dispense with your "Look-at-me-I'm-so-spiritually-superior" attitude, if so. :) If you want to have an earnest conversation, then... maybe. :)

Grace and peace to you.
Thanks. Please lead on. I was purely making some simple suggestions sort of in line with the topic of this thread, Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed.
 

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Dear Phoneman777,
God's Word clearly says that Christ will save all mankind. I quoted just three of the scriptures that state so.

In this age, Christ is only saving those people who have been blessed to be saved early. That is why they are called the "First Fruits" (James 1:18) of Christ's harvest of mankind.

Also, by saying that the Elect are chosen by God because God "foreknew" who would accept Christ and who would reject Him is very insulting to God.

Scripture says that God "chose" the Elect to satisfy His own purposes. The Elect have no works from which they can boast concerning their salvation. God did not look into the future like a fortuneteller and then claim that He chose them after finding out who is going to accept Christ. That makes God out to be a liar and a deceiver.

Here is the truth that God's Word teaches:

Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth.

As for what scripture teaches about God's foreknowledge, it says that His foreknowledge comes from the CERTAINTY that God always accomplishes what He says will do.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

Also, God's Word teaches that carnal mankind will never come to Christ of their own accord:

Rom 3:10 As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


So what changes for a person when they decide to accept Jesus as Lord?

What changes for a person is that Christ (from His own choosing) comes to them and gives them the Early Rain of the Spirit. Without the Early Rain of the Spirit, they would never call Jesus "Lord":

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

The Early Rain of the Spirit is what the Apostles received when they walked with Christ and it is what Paul received on the Damascus Road.

If a person does not have faith in Christ, it is because Christ has not come to them and given them the Holy Spirit.

In this age, most people will not be given the Early Rain of the Spirit and they will remain unbelievers until they die. However, "many" will be given the Early Rain of the Spirit. It is they who Christ calls into the church.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Then, from the group of many who enter the church, Christ will give a "few" of them the Latter Rain of the Spirit. They are the Elect and are the only people who will be saved in this age since salvation requires both the Early and Latter Rains:

James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the farmer waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receives the EARLY and LATTER RAIN. 8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

To understand why the "many" who are given only the Early Rain of the Spirit are not saved, we must look at other scripture (here a little and there a little, Isa 28:9-12).

When an unbeliever is given the Early Rain of the Spirit, they will be given a "measure of faith" - however, they will still remain spiritually blind (Mark 8:15-25). Because of their blindness, Christ will remain veiled from their understanding. Satan will then come to the new believer and easily deceive them via the spirit of anti-Christ (Mat 12:43-45). This is what caused the apostasy of the church shortly after the death of Paul (Acts 20:29-31).

When the spirit of anti-Christ enters a new believer, the Abomination of Desolation will occur within that person (God's temple). This unclean spirit will deceive them into accepting Satan's "another gospel" (2Cor 11:4) which mixes man's works with faith. When they commit this "sin that leads to death" (1John 5:16), they will "fall away" (Heb 6:1-8) and lose their salvation.

In this "worse than the first" spiritual condition (Mat 12:43-45), they will become a "man of sin". They will remain in this lost condition until they die or until Christ "comes again" and pours out the Latter Rain of the Spirit upon them. The Latter Rain of the Spirit is also called the Spirit of Truth (John 16:13), because with the Latter Rain, the believer's spiritual blindness will be healed. After the fallen away believer's eyes are opened, they will "see" the Abomination of Desolation (Mat 24:15-16) which had previously occurred within them. Because of this knowledge, judgment will fall on them and remove the spirit of anti-Christ & the Great Harlot (Mat 24:40-41). After this judgment is complete, the believer will be converted and saved.

The Early Rain of the Spirit calls many into the church but only the people who are chosen will also be given the Latter Rain. This is how Christ differentiates the "many" called from the "few" who are called & chosen.

In the final age, Christ will judge the balance of mankind. When He does, He will not forget to administer "justice, mercy and faith" during their judgment:

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Justice is satisfied by the destruction of the child of the devil. Mercy and faith are satisfied by the new birth of a child of God.

In the end, all mankind will be saved, just as the Word of God proclaims.

Joe
Personally I am not alarmed that there's an elect that are saved.

Equally, I'm not alarmed that they aren't the only ones saved.
 

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My suggestion is that you use the term 'I' or 'me' not 'us' or 'our'. As what Jesus the Christ reveals to me and how He does that, appears to be different to you.

Revelation comes to me, unlike you, not from the scriptures, not from the bible.

The Spirit of the Christ interacts with my spirit, not through a medium, but directly.

Over the past 3 years (not accessing the bible) He has graciously delivered revelation after revelation. These new revelations have been like seeds that have grown day after day manifesting new aspects of these new revelations.

I would encourage anyone to seek truth straight from the Divine Father, the source of all truth. I understand that some people may need to get knowledge second hand via a go between, a teacher, prophet but I don't.

If my dad, a plumber, plumbed a never ending supply of pure water into my house where I can access water at any time, where once I had to go to the shops to buy water, why would I. What would this action be saying to my dad? Dad, I don't appreciate what you've done. I don't want what you've provided.

I won't be doing that to my heavenly Father. I really appreciate what He has done and Who He has provided, the giving of His Spirit of Truth.
That leads to a more than obvious question. How closely do your received revelations equate to scripture?
 

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That's why God doesn't love any man, He only loves His Son and those in Him receive the benefits of that love.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ”
John.3.16

Why did the Father send His Son to die? Why did He permit His Son to become human, suffer, and give His life a ransom for mankind?
 

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That leads to a more than obvious question. How closely do your received revelations equate to scripture?
Some of those I've shared it with say some of the revelations I've received from the Spirit can be aligned with scripture. Some is just not there in that it goes beyond the volume and scope of the scriptures.
 

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Some is just not there in that it goes beyond the volume and scope of the scriptures.
If they don't contradict the scriptures, but are outside them, they may still be dangerous on account of where they may lead. For example, tradition in Catholicism may have seemed in the beginning to be acceptable to the church, but treated warily. However, when the reformers started rebuking the church for wayward doctrine, it was found that the papacy's only defence was in tradition, and resulted in being elevated above scripture at the council of Trent.
I find scripture sufficient, but appreciate the teachings of others that appropriately supplement scripture with enlightened explanation. However, they never replace scripture, contradict it, nor elevated above it as an authority aboove the word of God.