Israel reigns over the nations

[Marty fox]

Isaiah 19 has not been fulfilled yet.It isn't fulfilled till the time of the end when all sinners are removed from Christs kingdom.Everyone from.the euphrates to the Nile will be holy.


Isaiah 19
21 And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it.

22 And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.

23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.

24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:

25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.

Or it was fulfilled Assyria in the 6th century BC

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If there is only one coming with the sword out of His mouth how could He of came with the sword of His mouth in Revelation 2:16?

Also how did He come in the verse below thousands of years ago?

Isaiah 19:1
A prophecy against Egypt: See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear.

Did he come? Or did he do like he did with Israel. and send his representatives?

you failed to answer my post of what it will look like when Jesus does come. why is that?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes Rome came and destroyed Israel doing Gods will of coming in Judgement

Luke 19
41 As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it 42 and said, “If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes. 43 The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. 44 They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”

Thats what God does at times uses nation to do His will

yes, so he does not actually COME. he sends,, with the word of his mouth.

(a sword is a symbolic representation of his word)

 

[Marty fox]

yes, so he does not actually COME. he sends,, with the word of his mouth.

(a sword is a symbolic representation of his word)

Of course, the sword is symbolic for His word scripture mentions that many times

 

[Marty fox]

Did he come? Or did he do like he did with Israel. and send his representatives?

you failed to answer my post of what it will look like when Jesus does come. why is that?

Which post # question was that?

 

[tailgator]

Or it was fulfilled Assyria in the 6th century BC

You believe God sent the saviour to deliver Egypt in 6 century BC?

Who may I ask is the saviour God sent the Egypt to save the Egyptians?


Isaiah 19
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

 

[Marty fox]

You believe God sent the saviour to deliver Egypt in 6 century BC?

Who may I ask is the saviour God sent the Egypt to save the Egyptians?


Isaiah 19
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

Sure why not God always sends help to those who turn and call of Him Hès done it to many since the beginning of time

 

[tailgator]

Sure why not God always sends help to those who turn and call of Him Hès done it to many since the beginning of time

Who is the saviour God sends to Egypt to deliver the Egyptians?

Isaiah 19
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them


Do you not know who the saviour is?

 

[Gottservant]

Wouldn't it be great, if we could discuss faith in terms of faith and greater faith (not "faith or not faith")?

I mean I appreciate you have a point, but its not fair that you present that point as if others are supposed to doubt theirs - I am not even sure you realise you are doing it (causing doubt)?

 

[Marty fox]

Who is the saviour God sends to Egypt to deliver the Egyptians?

Isaiah 19
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them


Do you not know who the saviour is?

We already went over this and yes the ultimate savior is Jesus

 

[tailgator]

We already went over this and yes the ultimate savior is Jesus

If Jesus is the saviour God sends to deliver Egypt ,then that would put the timing of Isaiah 19 at Jesus coming at the time of the end after Egypt is attacked by the king of the north .

Isaiah 19 is an end times prophecy about the coming of Christ the saviour..

First the king of the north.

Isaiah 19
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

Daniel 11
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.


Then the saviour is sent to deliver everyone who is written in the book.


Isaiah 19
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them

Daniel 12:1
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.


Looks like Egypt will be delivered the same time Daniels people are delivered at the time of the end.Imagine that.

 

[Marty fox]

If Jesus is the saviour God sends to deliver Egypt ,then that would put the timing of Isaiah 19 at Jesus coming at the time of the end after Egypt is attacked by the king of the north .

Isaiah 19 is an end times prophecy about the coming of Christ the saviour..

First the king of the north.

Isaiah 19
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

Daniel 11
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.


Then the saviour is sent to deliver everyone who is written in the book.


Isaiah 19
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them

Daniel 12:1
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.


Looks like Egypt will be delivered the same time Daniels people are delivered at the time of the end.Imagine that.

Yes Jesus is the ultimate Saviour but I believe not the savior in this one it states "a savior" not "the savior" there are many saviors for many reasons.

I believe all of this occurred before the first advent mostly through Antiochus Epiphanies only Daniel mentions everyone written in the book

 

[tailgator]

Yes Jesus is the ultimate Saviour but I believe not the savior in this one it states "a savior" not "the savior" there are many saviors for many reasons.

I believe all of this occurred before the first advent mostly through Antiochus Epiphanies only Daniel mentions everyone written in the book

There are many saviours who can save Egypt?

Like who?
In who's name can Egypt be saved?

In who's name is Egypt blessed and become God's people?


Isaiah 19
23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.

24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:

25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance

 

[Marty fox]

There are many saviours who can save Egypt?

Like who?
In who's name can Egypt be saved?

In who's name is Egypt blessed and become God's people?


Isaiah 19
23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.

24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:

25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance

Only Jesus can save their souls but people like Judas Maccabee can be sent by God and save people and nations

 

[tailgator]

Only Jesus can save their souls but people like Judas Maccabee can be sent by God and save people and nations

Is that who you say saved Egypt and made Egypt God's people?Is that how the nations become God's people?
Belief in Judas Maccabee?

Blessed be Egypt my people


25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance

 

[Marty fox]

Is that who you say saved Egypt and made Egypt God's people?Is that how the nations become God's people?
Belief in Judas Maccabee?

Blessed be Egypt my people


25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance

Nope I didn't say that at all and you know it your being ridicules.

This conversation isn't going anywhere, and it won't go anywhere so lets just agree to disagree.

 

[tailgator]

Nope I didn't say that at all and you know it your being ridicules.

This conversation isn't going anywhere, and it won't go anywhere so lets just agree to disagree.

It's settled then.
The only saviour that can save Egypt and bring them to God is Christ Jesus.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

 

[Marty fox]

It's settled then.
The only saviour that can save Egypt and bring them to God is Christ Jesus.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

You know that I wasn’t just talking about salvation I even said that so what do you get out of purposely miss quoting what I say?

 

[tailgator]

You know that I wasn’t just talking about salvation I even said that so what do you get out of purposely miss quoting what I say?

Isaiah 19 is talking about salvation.
The only way you can become the people of God is through Christ Jesus.The people of Egypt become the people of God through Christ Jesus the saviour.

25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance


John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Isaiah 19:18
In that day five cities in Egypt will speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to the LORD Almighty. One of them will be called the City of the Sun.

 

[Timtofly]

I'm not claiming that, goofball. Are you trying to distract from the fact that scripture calls people in the church God's chosen people?

Again...

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Is there some reason why you don't include Gentile believers among God's chosen? Is it because your religion is Judaism?

This is the church being physically gathered into Paradise, the heavenly Kingdom. Israel is over the nations on the earth, not in Paradise. There are no nations in Paradise.

That spiritual nation leaves earth at physical death and enters that heavenly country, Paradise.

Why are you turning these verses into a physical government on earth?