The mark of the man/beast is sin. The name of the beast is Death.
The mark of the Man/beast
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Definitely incorrect.
According to a law that the false prophet will come up with, there are three inscriptions a person must have at least one of, in either their right hand or forehead, to buy or sell during the 42 months reign of the beast-king. In Revelation 13:16-17.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The number of the beast's name is 666. At this point in time, I don't know what the beast's name is. Nor what the mark is. But it is not what you are saying, that much I do know - as no one is going to worship Death.
The solution to the 666 code to the beast's name is still a mystery to me as well, at this point in time.
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For the world's population to worship the beast, take his mark, or number - there is going to have be some
deception on a grand-scale of why that would be a positive thing for people of the world to do - especially by the widely known negativity associated with 666.
However, a few years back a false messiah, claiming to be Jesus Christ Man, Jose de Jesus Miranda, convinced his follows to get tattooed with 666. So that is an indication that it is possible.
José Luis de Jesús - Wikipedia
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No, you just do not understand because it is “spiritually discerned”. Both the mark of the man/beast and the mark of God are inward “spiritual marks”.Definitely incorrect.
According to a law that the false prophet will come up with, there are three inscriptions a person must have at least one of, in either their right hand or forehead, to buy or sell during the 42 months reign of the beast-king. In Revelation 13:16-17.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The number of the beast's name is 666. At this point in time, I don't know what the beast's name is. Nor what the mark is. But it is not what you are saying, that much I do know - as no one is going to worship Death.
The solution to the 666 code to the beast's name is still a mystery to me as well, at this point in time.
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For the world's population to worship the beast, take his mark, or number - there is going to have be some
deception on a grand-scale of why that would be a positive thing for people of the world to do - especially by the widely known negativity associated with 666.
However, a few years back a false messiah, claiming to be Jesus Christ Man, Jose de Jesus Miranda, convinced his follows to get tattooed with 666. So that is an indication that it is possible.
José Luis de Jesús - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
We can better come to understand that the mark of the beast is inward and is spiritual (in the heart and mind) by comparing spiritual things with spiritual as this is how the Holy Spirit teaches us; as is also written.
Notice the description below of the mark of the beast is described in the same manner as God's mark, or God's seal of the Holy Spirit.
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Now compare the wording above to God's mark, or seal, which is of His Holy Spirit....
Descriptions of God's seal (or mark) by the Spirit.....
Ezekiel 9:4
And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 9:4
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Revelation 22:4
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Proof that God's seal (mark) and name written in the forehead is spiritual.....
2 Corinthians 1:22
Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
So by comparing God's seal (mark) we should know and understand that the beasts mark is also spiritual, which is from the spirit of the god of this world; their father the Devil working in the hearts and minds (in the forehead) of the children of disobedience.
It is written in Deut. 32:5"They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation."
The mark of the beast in a person's right hand or forehead will be something visible to all persons, at the time it takes place.
The mark of God, which will also be outwardly in a person forehead, seals a person as special to God , but only spiritual beings will be able to see it, such as the flesh tormenting locust in Revelation, which it will be commanded to them not touch them having the seal of God. Revelation 9:4.
So can you see with your eyes the seal of the Holy Spirit and the name of God written on a persons forehead?
It is written, the things of God no man knows, but the Holy Spirit. Without being given the mind of Wisdom from the Holy Spirit men cannot understand this mystery.
The first man is of the earth, and he speaks of the earth, because the natural man only knows what he knows and sees from the natural world. The natural man has the testimony of men, and they who are of the world will receive those who come in their own name.
But they will not, and cannot receive those who come in the name of the Lord. The Carnally minded man will not receive the Testimony of the Spirit of God, because it is foolishness to him. Those who are born of the Holy Spirit speak of what they have seen and heard from God, but the natural man will not receive their Testimony.
Do you know how humans can see the inward spiritual marks of Righteousness and of sin? By their fruits= words and works
Here is more proof that “sin is called a mark” in scripture....
It is written in Job 7:20 “I have sinned; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?”
Job 10:14 “If I sin, then thou “markest”me, and thou wilt not acquit me from mine iniquity."
Psalm 130:3 If thou, Lord, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
And it is written in Jeremiah 2:22"For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is “marked“before me,saith the Lord.
Those who have ears to hear let them hear what the Spirit is saying!
There currently is no law requiring a mark to buy or sell. So the mark of the beast in the right hand or forehead will be a physical mark in the skin.
Dear Stewardofthemystery,
I read your posts and I agree with a good part of what you presented. It adds a little to what I presently believe.
Here is my summarized understanding:
Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns (as in the beginning of Rev 17): This beast represents man.
Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns and Ten Crowns (1st Beast of Rev 13): Represents a man of sin/apostate believer who has the spirit of anti-Christ. The horns represent the ruling thoughts and beliefs of the individual. The number ten represents completeness. The addition of the crowns shows that Satan rules over the individual's thoughts and beliefs by the spirit of anti-Christ. When this happens, the Abomination of Desolation occurs to the believer and heals the deadly head wound that Christ gave the individual when they received the Early Rain of the Spirit. Because the head wound was healed, the believer's original head (Satan) remains in control but with the indwelling of the spirit of anti-Christ, the person becomes "worse than the first" (Mat 12:43-45). Here is my quick teaching on this scripture:
Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.
The spiritual symbol of an unclean spirit represents a spirit which teaches Satan's false truth through lies and deceptions.
Since a new believer remains spiritually blind (Mark 8:21-25) after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit, they cannot replace their worldly false beliefs with the truth of Christ. ONE unclean spirit leaves but comes back with SEVEN more. The number "seven" represents perfection. In this case, the number seven represents the perfection of Satan's lies/deceptions which come to a believer by the indwelling of the spirit of anti-Christ. Now, instead of ONE unclean spirit within the believer, they now have EIGHT. The number eight is a spiritual symbol which represents a new spiritual condition. In this case, the new spiritual condition is worse than the first.
This "worse than the first" spiritual condition causes the believer to become a False Prophet, a Man of Sin, a Minister of Satan and a Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns & Crowns.
Second Beast from the earth (2nd beast of Rev 13): Represents the spirit of anti-Christ.
Mark of the Beast: a spiritual mark which shows that a person has the indwelling of the spirit of ant-Christ and has been made worse than the first (spiritually worsened child of the devil).
Seal of God: a spiritual mark showing that a person has received both the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit (Baptism of the Spirit) and has become a child of God.
This scripture applies:
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of Promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Image of the Beast (Satan/spirit of anti-Christ): Apostate believers who are represented by the Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns & Ten Crowns. They have the spirit of anti-Christ and make up the apostate church.
Image of God: Jesus Christ and converted Elect believers. They have the Holy Spirit and make up the true church.
Name of the beast: Satan/spirit of anti-Christ/Death. In the fourth seal, the rider of the pale horse is Death. This is the spirit of anti-Christ (Satan's spirit) who kills a believer after they have received the Early Rain of the Spirit. The Early Rain of the Spirit is when a person receives a deadly blow to their head which would lead to their conversion. That head wound is healed after the spirit of anti-Christ enters the believer and is why the Seven Headed beast is shown to have a head with this deadly wound that has been healed.
Number of the beast 666: The number 666 represents Satan (or death if you like). Six is the number for mankind. Three is the number for a spiritual process and is why 6 is repeated 3 times. The spiritual process that changes a man (6, child of the devil) into a "man of sin" (666, worsened child of the devil) is described in Mat 12:43-45. The spiritual process is one of devolution which occurs when the spirit of anti-Christ enters a believer who has only received the Early Rain of the Spirit (unconverted). The result of this spiritual process is "worse than the first".
Buy and Sell: Buying is accepting ideas/beliefs and selling is teaching ideas/beliefs.
This scripture applies:
Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast (belief in his own works), and give to the poor (spiritually poor who value these beliefs), and thou shalt have treasure in heaven (knowledge of God): and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions (works of the Old Covenant).
If you are not familiar with the concept of the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit, the pathway to salvation will remain a mystery. I have written a great deal about them if you are interested.
Below is my understanding of the steps on the pathway to salvation that Christ will cause His Elect to travel:
- Christ gives the Early Rain of the Spirit to call a person to be a saint. This includes the "many" and the "few" (Mat 22:14). This is when the person will make a confession of faith and will enter the church (1Cor 12:3). However, the new believer will remain spiritually blind, carnally minded and unconverted (Mat 12:43-45, Mark 8:15-25 & Paul's experience on the Damascus Road).
- The spirit of anti-Christ will then enter the unconverted believer and cause the Abomination of Desolation to occur within them. This is when the new believer consumes Satan's leavened bread and becomes "worse than the first"; a Man of Sin who mixes their own works with faith under the New Covenant. They have now received the Mark of the Beast.
- The new believer then "falls away" (mixes works with faith/sin that leads to death) and loses their salvation. They unknowingly enter the apostate church. The "many" who are only called to be saints will remain in this lost condition until they die.
- For the Elect (the "few"), Christ will "come again" to them and pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit (Spirit of Truth/Baptism of the Spirit). This is when an Elect believer is sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise (Eph 1:10-14). With the Latter Rain of the Spirit, the fallen away believer will repent of their works and make Christ's pathway straight for Him to "appear".
- Also at this time, the believer's spiritual blindness will be healed.
- Christ then “appears” and gathers the believer (now born again as child of God) to heaven (spiritually speaking, not literally, Mat 24:29-31). This is when the Marriage of the Lamb occurs.
- Now with "eyes that can see", the Marriage Supper of the Lamb/Lord's Supper will occur where Christ feeds the believer His Bread and New Wine (truth of the New Covenant). This is when they will "see" the Abomination of Desolation which previously occurred within themselves when the spirit of anti-Christ entered them (Mat 24:15-16).
- The truth the believer receives will begin the Day of the Lord/Thousand Years Reign (judgment).
- During the Day of the Lord, the spirit of anti-Christ and the believer's carnal nature (Great Harlot) will be "taken" from within the believer and cast into the Lake of Fire for destruction (shown in Rev 19:20 and Mat 24:40-41).
- The believer is now converted.
- After the conversion process is complete, all that will remain within the believer is the Holy Spirit who will begin maturing the new child of God into a perfect man by feeding them "meat" accompanied by any necessary chastisement. This maturing process will teach them righteousness (Isa 26:9, Phi 2:13).
- Next comes the time of testing by Satan when he is loosed from his prison (Rev 20:7-10). After the believer passes their time of testing, it will be said that they have overcome this world just as Christ overcame this world (Rev 3:21).
- The believer is now ready for the bodily resurrection which will occur at the end of the age (redemption of the body).
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Spiritual Israelite
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Yes, I agree. Just as the seal of God (the Holy Spirit - Eph 1:13; 4:30) is not a physical seal, neither is the mark of the beast. All whose names are not written in the book of life worship the beast (Rev 13:8) and all who worship the beast have the mark of the beast, so the mark of the beast is a spiritual mark that marks those who oppose God while the seal of God marks those who have the Holy Spirit. All people either have the seal of God or the mark of the beast. All people are either with Christ or against Him (Matthew 12:30). All people are either of the world or not of the world. All people are either children of the kingdom of God or children of the devil (Matthew 13:36-43).
Spiritual Israelite
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Nonsense. All whose names are not written in the book of life worship the beast (Rev 13:8) and have its mark. How could literally all unbelievers have a physical mark of the beast? That isn't even reasonable. The mark of the beast is the spiritual opposite of the seal of God, which figuratively represents the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13;4:30).
You have no spiritual discernment whatsoever, Doug. It's called the seal of God and that is without question the Holy Spirit. You never use scripture to interpret scripture.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Spiritual Israelite
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Buying and selling does not need to have anything to do with buying and selling merchandise.
Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
To not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast simply means that someone is not able to preach/sell the gospel because no one wants to hear it and people are not able to buy the truth of the gospel because its message is being drowned out by many false prophets and false teachers.
Stumpmaster
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Such an incomprehensible use of the English language.
The implication is that those with the mark of the beast are the only ones with access to the Gospel, something easily refuted with Scripture.
Rev 12:10-11 And I heard a great voice saying in Heaven, Now has come the salvation and power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Christ. For the accuser of our brothers is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night. (11) And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul until death.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast nor his image, nor had received his mark on their foreheads, nor in their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Well, contrary to what other people said I read the whole thing
Plus, I don’t see anything wrong in what you said
I guess the critics on this site get bored easily
Plus, I don’t see anything wrong in what you said
I guess the critics on this site get bored easily
No, the mark of the beast will be a means of economic control of society.
Who comes at the 6th seal, the 6th trump and the 6th vial (666)? His name is Satan.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18 (KJV)
Blessings,
PEtRA
In Genesis 1:24-31 the Lord brought forth from the earth both man and beast on the sixth day.
Hebrew letters have a numerical value, and in Hebrew gematria the sixth day has a numerical value of 666….. שִׁשִּׁי = sixth= 610 יוֹם= day=56 total= 666
Also the Lord said in Genesis 6:3 “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”
The number of a man’s days in that verse, or hundred twenty years, and in Hebrew gematria is also = 666
מֵאָה = hundred=46 and עֶשְׂרִים =twenty = 620 for a total of 666
Spiritual Israelite
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I quoted scripture that contains the words "buy" and "sell" used figuratively and you think that is incomprehensible? I did not say those with the mark of the beast would be the only ones with access to the gospel. Don't blame me for your lack of reading comprehension skills. I'm saying the gospel will be drowned out by false teaching so that the only thing that people will buy (listen to, accept) is what those with the mark of the beast are selling (their false teaching). This should not be too hard to comprehend.
Spiritual Israelite
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The mark of the beast is something that those who worship the beast, which is all those whose names are not written in the book of life (Rev 13:8), have and it marks someone as being opposed to God. How could some physical mark that represents economic control be a mark that indicates that someone opposes God? I think that's nonsense. And how could such a physical mark be implemented worldwide so that literally everyone whose names are not written in the book of life have it?
What is the connection between the mark of sin and the buying and selling? It is important that we look how God Himself words things.
Those who receive the mark of the beast by ongoing sin, have sold themselves out by playing the harlot with the ways of this world. God said those who sin against Him have wronged their own souls.
Notice what the Lord says….
Isaiah 50:1
Thus saith the Lord, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have “ye sold yourselves,”and for your transgressions is your mother put away.
It is also written…
1 Kings 21:25
But there was none like unto Ahab, which did sell himself to work wickedness in the sight of the Lord, whom Jezebel his wife stirred up.
1 Kings 21:20
And Ahab said to Elijah, Hast thou found me, O mine enemy? And he answered, I have found thee: because thou hast sold thyself to work evil in the sight of the Lord.
2 Kings 17:17
And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger.
Isaiah 52:3
For thus saith the Lord, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money
Paul said the carnal are sold under sin.
So the mystery is not about buying and selling food and clothing, but it is about the buying and selling the of souls of men.
Just as it is written in
1 Corinthians 6:20
For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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