There is only one true church

[Dan Clarkston]

I have the Church, which is lead and protected by the Holy Spirit.

Funny how the "holy spirit" you claim FAILED to teach you what God said in His Word which is way different that what catholicism teaches.

You catholics cannot overcome the fact that catholic doctrine is not found in God's Word. Weird!

 

[Augustin56]

Funny how the "holy spirit" you claim FAILED to teach you what God said in His Word which is way different that what catholicism teaches.

You catholics cannot overcome the fact that catholic doctrine is not found in God's Word. Weird!

To be fully accurate, you should have said, "Funny how the "holy spirit" you claim FAILED to teach you what God said in His Word AS I PERSONALLY INTERPRET IT, which is way different that what catholicism teaches. You catholics cannot overcome the fact that catholic doctrine is not found in God's Word AS I PERSONALLY INTERPRET IT. Weird!"

See 2 Peter 1:20-21, which says, "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,
for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God."

IF the original Church founded by Christ, and to which He gave the fullness of Divine Revelation, doesn't have the fullness of Divine Revelation, and somehow, 16 or more centuries later Protestants came along with some sort of "correction" then you have to explain where that correction came from? An angel? Jesus came back and said, "Wait! The Church has had it wrong for 16 centuries. Here are some corrections!"

Heresy is that special moment when you think you have greater spiritual insight than the Apostles, disciples, Apostolic Fathers, the Church, and the Magisterium, because you havve a Bible they wrote, compiled, and gave to you, which you personally interpret out of context, with no education in ancient cultures, languages and the context of the times in which it was written.

 

[Aunty Jane]

It seems to me that you have missed the words after "perish" which are..."but have everlasting life."

You apparently missed the contrast stated in that well known verse…..to “PERISH” is the opposite of “everlasting life”….To “perish” means to be destroyed utterly. It has no meaning of conscious punishment after death because the ancient Jews did not believe in “heaven and hell” as opposite destinations for human “souls”….that is because belief in an immortal soul was not yet adopted by them under Greek influence of the day. The Bible does not mention immortal souls…ever. These two words do not exist side by side in any verse in God’s word. “Souls” are entirely earth bound mortals.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

To be fully accurate, you should have said, "Funny how the "holy spirit" you claim FAILED to teach you what God said in His Word AS I PERSONALLY INTERPRET IT, which is way different that what catholicism teaches. You catholics cannot overcome the fact that catholic doctrine is not found in God's Word AS I PERSONALLY INTERPRET IT. Weird!"

And yet... you cannot show in God's Word where Jesus or His Apostles taught anybody to pray to Mary or any other false doctrines taught by the catholic cult.

Epic FAIL on the part of the catholics.

 

[Aunty Jane]

The point was not about David, but that anyone who makes it to heaven is fully alive. Mary is in heaven, the saints are in heaven. Heaven is everlasting life.

No sorry, you are misinformed. Heaven was never originally offered as a destination for humans…..God did not create humans to live in heaven……he had a large family of spirit creatures who existed long before we were created. The Creator had plans for mortal humans right here on earth, where he put us in the first place. The devil intervened and created the need for a detour….but God’s original purpose never went away. (Isa 55:11) It will yet be realized. (Rev 21:2-4)

"What your church teaches is nothing close to what Jesus and his apostles taught.....and all of them were Jewish." According to what? Your JW church established just 174 years ago? You admitted that you reject the Trinity, so you already follow the wrong god which is a heresy as God is three distinct persons.

If you really knew scripture (and most Catholic people have no idea what the Bible says because they have been convinced that the Bible is not the only word of God)……however, it was the only word Christ and his disciples referred to. Nothing Jesus taught was of his own originality….it was all from his Father. (John 7:16)

Daniel’s prophesies tell us that in “the time of the end” God would “cleanse, whiten and refine” his people but that not all would accept the cleansing of the ‘filth’ that had crept in, gradually introduced by the apostate church that Christ warned was to be sown by the devil. People would love the lies and reject the truth…..deluded by their leaders as the Jews were, who executed their own Messiah.

We are deep into “the time of the end” right now……do your leaders teach you this? Or will it come as a shock as we see the winds of change now leading us to God’s showdown at Armageddon?

The bottom line is Christians existed long before the Bible, not just scripture. Christianity started with Jesus, not the Jews or the OT. Who cares if the apostles were Jewish? They believed in Christ, they are Christians and only Jewish by descent.

Twisting terminology again to fit in your church’s continued adoption of pagan doctrines that are offensive to God and have no place in the life of a Christian. You can justify them to yourself, but don’t try to justify them to God’s appointed judge. (Matt 7:21-23)

Jesus was Jewish and he taught from Jewish Scripture….The Bible we have today is what God wanted to give to the world, detailing much of what God had told his son to teach his disciples…..not the Catechism that, like the Jewish Talmud, was their particular twisted interpretation of the Scriptures…. to support their distorted beliefs.

Christendom is the modern day version of first century Judaism…..it includes all who follow the errors taught by the original apostate church, which eventually morphed into Roman Catholicism. These all accept as their foundation, teachings of the Catholic church….when a foundation is built on lies, it will not stand when the storm of God’s rage is unleashed on a godless world. Especially culpable are the churches who lead their members to travel “the broad and spacious road to destruction”…..”few“ will be found on the “cramped and narrow road to life”. (Matt 7:13-14) God has chosen the “few”…the devil has the “many”.

 

[Augustin56]

And yet... you cannot show in God's Word where Jesus or His Apostles taught anybody to pray to Mary or any other false doctrines taught by the catholic cult.

Epic FAIL on the part of the catholics. View attachment 48221

Again, why not ASK why we believe what we believe instead of assuming that you're all-knowing and that everything we are to believe is in the Bible (The Bible explicitly says otherwise.)

Read the information at the following link if you're intellectually honest and really seeking the truth:

Why Do Catholics Pray to Saints?

The historic practice of asking saints in heaven for their intercession is questioned by many. Explore the common arguments and the Catholic beliefs.

www.catholic.com

 

[Deus vult]

Yes, I must make choices, but the ones that matter are the ones that God has put before me.

The Truth I believe is that Jesus is Truth. How well does any man know Jesus? The answer for any man is the portion of Truth that he has... or so I believe. Does not God look at what each of us has and then what each of is doing with what he has?

Lu 12:48

But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Then all choices matter because everything around you in every moment is put before you by God. Did God only put some choices before us and not others?

The issue I see is that the approach you're taking is very subjective and like you said "portion of Truth that he has". My portion of Truth can differ from yours and all of a sudden we don't know what's right because it all becomes relative and ambiguous. By that same token, if you believe Jesus is the Truth, why would you avoid participating in liturgy and tradition? It almost seems like a copout, lazy Christianity. It's like claiming you love someone but then refuse to get married in the eyes of the state and have a wedding, etc. all under the guise of "the love is what matters." Well if the love is what matters, then there should be no meaningless objections to marriage.

Imagine I gift you a guitar with free lessons, everything..but you never open it and play it. It would be as if you never received a gift.

 

[amadeus]

Then all choices matter because everything around you in every moment is put before you by God. Did God only put some choices before us and not others?

Ultimately, I believe that indeed all of our choices matter in God's eyes.

The issue I see is that the approach you're taking is very subjective and like you said "portion of Truth that he has". My portion of Truth can differ from yours and all of a sudden we don't know what's right because it all becomes relative and ambiguous.

It is not ambiguous to God. If I am surrendering to the Holy Spirit and following the lead of the Holy Spirit always, then I will always be making the right choices. If I have not yet overcome the world of me as Jesus did then I am still falling short. If however, I am growing in the direction that Jesus grew, then God recognizing that I am heading in the right direction will rightly and fairly judge me for what I am and where I am on the highway of holiness.

By that same token, if you believe Jesus is the Truth, why would you avoid participating in liturgy and tradition? It almost seems like a copout, lazy Christianity. It's like claiming you love someone but then refuse to get married in the eyes of the state and have a wedding, etc. all under the guise of "the love is what matters." Well if the love is what matters, then there should be no meaningless objections to marriage.

I do not avoid participating in anything in which God has directed me to participate. I believe that when I am not quenching the Spirit that I am being led by the Spirit. You may frown at that because of the multitude of persons claiming to be led by Spirit differ so much in their beliefs and practices.

My response to you would be that the multitude of differences is due to so many people leading themselves too much of the time. Quenching the Spirit has gotten me into trouble with God as well... but He has been merciful allowing to repent more than one more time. Hopefully when my time runs out, I will be moving up rather than down.

 

[Deus vult]

No sorry, you are misinformed. Heaven was never originally offered as a destination for humans…..God did not create humans to live in heaven……he had a large family of spirit creatures who existed long before we were created. The Creator had plans for mortal humans right here on earth, where he put us in the first place. The devil intervened and created the need for a detour….but God’s original purpose never went away. (Isa 55:11) It will yet be realized. (Rev 21:2-4)

If you really knew scripture (and most Catholic people have no idea what the Bible says because they have been convinced that the Bible is not the only word of God)……however, it was the only word Christ and his disciples referred to. Nothing Jesus taught was of his own originality….it was all from his Father. (John 7:16)

Daniel’s prophesies tell us that in “the time of the end” God would “cleanse, whiten and refine” his people but that not all would accept the cleansing of the ‘filth’ that had crept in, gradually introduced by the apostate church that Christ warned was to be sown by the devil. People would love the lies and reject the truth…..deluded by their leaders as the Jews were, who executed their own Messiah.

We are deep into “the time of the end” right now……do your leaders teach you this? Or will it come as a shock as we see the winds of change now leading us to God’s showdown at Armageddon?

Twisting terminology again to fit in your church’s continued adoption of pagan doctrines that are offensive to God and have no place in the life of a Christian. You can justify them to yourself, but don’t try to justify them to God’s appointed judge. (Matt 7:21-23)

Jesus was Jewish and he taught from Jewish Scripture….The Bible we have today is what God wanted to give to the world, detailing much of what God had told his son to teach his disciples…..not the Catechism that, like the Jewish Talmud, was their particular twisted interpretation of the Scriptures…. to support their distorted beliefs.

Christendom is the modern day version of first century Judaism…..it includes all who follow the errors taught by the original apostate church, which eventually morphed into Roman Catholicism. These all accept as their foundation, teachings of the Catholic church….when a foundation is built on lies, it will not stand when the storm of God’s rage is unleashed on a godless world. Especially culpable are the churches who lead their members to travel “the broad and spacious road to destruction”…..”few“ will be found on the “cramped and narrow road to life”. (Matt 7:13-14) God has chosen the “few”…the devil has the “many”.

That's a roundabout answer to me saying that anyone in heaven is alive. Talking about what heaven was originally offered for or what God created humans for is irrelevant to what I said about heaven. None of it changes the fact that anyone in heaven right now is alive.

The Bible was literally put together by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. We Orthodox and Catholics are fully aware that the Bible is the word of God, we just know that's not the only gift God has given us. God also gave us the gift of Sacred Tradition, alongside the Bible..which is the word of God. Jesus and the Father are both God.

We are amillennial meaning that Christ will come one last time (we don't know when) for the final judgment and that's it, nothing more. We don't believe or obsess over the rapture or 1000 years of reign or 7 years of tribulations. We all have to endure tribulation, saved or not.

It's not twisted terminology, it's fact. If Jesus strictly taught from Jewish Scripture, we would all be Jews and not Christians. Christianity started with Jesus, not Jewish Scripture. The Jews have a totally different religion that rejects Jesus. There is no Christianity without Jesus and the NT.

Christendom is neither the modern day version nor sister version nor close cousin, etc. of first century Judaism whatsoever. Apples and oranges. Judaism is its own thing entirely on its own just like Christianity. You can actually find countless videos of Jews spitting on Christians in Israel, that's how much of a modern version of themselves they perceive Christians as. The foundation of Christianity is Christ, not Judaism. Jews have a completely different god that we don't believe in, the argument already dies right there. We don't believe in their god, they don't believe in ours. If the Jews really believed in our god, then they would proclaim that Jesus is God.

 

[rockytopva]

I believe the one church is made of seven generalized congregations with many scriptural interpretations...

1. Ephesus - Messianic - Challenging post interpretations - In which they have a right to do!
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Book of Enoch was a long time in the hands of Ethiopians
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - The Septuagint
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Originally the Latin Nova Vulgata
5. Sardis - Protestant - Many versions translated from previous versions
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Many versions translated from previous versions
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Many versions translated from previous versions

Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique one to another
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregatons

I haven't visited the Messianic, Orthodox, or Catholic churches. I believe there are Christians in each of the congregations. But I do not wish to go to a church where I would have to join to fit in. I also prefer my King James Version of the Bible.

 

[rockytopva]

I believe the one church is made of seven generalized congregations with many scriptural interpretations...

1. Ephesus - Messianic - Challenging post interpretations - In which they have a right to do!
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Book of Enoch was a long time in the hands of Ethiopians
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - The Septuagint
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Originally the Latin Nova Vulgata
5. Sardis - Protestant - Many versions translated from previous versions
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Many versions translated from previous versions
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Many versions translated from previous versions

Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique one to another
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregatons

I haven't visited the Messianic, Orthodox, or Catholic churches. I believe there are Christians in each of the congregations. But I do not wish to go to a church where I would have to join to fit in. I also prefer my King James Version of the Bible.

As far as who is saved... I do not know.... As I am not worthy to read into the Lambs Book of Life...

And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. - Revelation 5:4

 

[Deus vult]

Ultimately, I believe that indeed all of our choices matter in God's eyes.

It is not ambiguous to God. If I am surrendering to the Holy Spirit and following the lead of the Holy Spirit always, then I will always be making the right choices. If I have not yet overcome the world of me as Jesus did then I am still falling short. If however, I am growing in the direction that Jesus grew, then God recognizing that I am heading in the right direction will rightly and fairly judge me for what I am and where I am on the highway of holiness.



I do not avoid participating in anything in which God has directed me to participate. I believe that when I am not quenching the Spirit that I am being led by the Spirit. You may frown at that because of the multitude of persons claiming to be led by Spirit differ so much in their beliefs and practices.

My response to you would be that the multitude of differences is due to so many people leading themselves too much of the time. Quenching the Spirit has gotten me into trouble with God as well... but He has been merciful allowing to repent more than one more time. Hopefully when my time runs out, I will be moving up rather than down.

How do you know you are surrendering to the Holy Spirit and following its lead? That again is highly subjective. Some claim to follow the Holy Spirit and do some insane things like biting themselves with a rattlesnake in a church in Texas to put God to the test. If for some reason circumstances do not allow one to participate in church or the Divine Liturgy, then there is no problem because God is just and is able to take that into account. But if I'm able-bodied and all I'm doing is laying around on a couch talking about how I trust Jesus but never attend church, then it raises the question.

You already know that the multitude of differences is due to so many people leading themselves too much of the time. That's why need the church, we need some form of worldy authority. You know, we also technically don't need a government as long as everyone "is good" but yet we have to have a government. And God condones governments too. Romans 13:1

 

[Deus vult]

I believe the one church is made of seven generalized congregations with many scriptural interpretations...

1. Ephesus - Messianic - Challenging post interpretations - In which they have a right to do!
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Book of Enoch was a long time in the hands of Ethiopians
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - The Septuagint
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Originally the Latin Nova Vulgata
5. Sardis - Protestant - Many versions translated from previous versions
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Many versions translated from previous versions
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Many versions translated from previous versions

Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique one to another
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregatons

I haven't visited the Messianic, Orthodox, or Catholic churches. I believe there are Christians in each of the congregations. But I do not wish to go to a church where I would have to join to fit in. I also prefer my King James Version of the Bible.

Orthodox/Catholic is not about joining to "fit in", but to worship Christ. The bad examples you might have seen are no different than a few bad cops and are not representative of the Faith.

 

[face2face]

I believe the one church is made of seven generalized congregations with many scriptural interpretations...

1. Ephesus - Messianic - Challenging post interpretations - In which they have a right to do!
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Book of Enoch was a long time in the hands of Ethiopians
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - The Septuagint
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Originally the Latin Nova Vulgata
5. Sardis - Protestant - Many versions translated from previous versions
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Many versions translated from previous versions
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Many versions translated from previous versions

Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique one to another
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregatons

I haven't visited the Messianic, Orthodox, or Catholic churches. I believe there are Christians in each of the congregations. But I do not wish to go to a church where I would have to join to fit in. I also prefer my King James Version of the Bible.

Thanks for this post.

I think you are forcing dogam into the text which is not there. However, what is there, is a representation of the true Body of Christ which is in the earth today manifesting each of these issues / qualities: @mailmandan you might be interested in the Divine Gaze as it speaks to probationary salvation!

 

[face2face]

Part 2

 

[face2face]

Note the emphasis Christ places on:

1. bearing with false doctrine
2. Works & Labour
3. Developing the fruit of patience
4. The threat to remove the lampstand / church if they do not continue in faith
5. Jesus hates those who lie in his name / wants us to test those who are apostate
6. He is seeking repentance
7. Must hear these things and change else you will fail to receive the promise

F2F

 

[face2face]

@mailmandan I'm sure you will find this analysis not to your liking but if you spend the time checking its truthfulness you will see all is in order. I could provide you detailed exposition on each of the churches) this presentation is 84 slides on the 7 Churches / Ecclesias, and all of these show you the Lord Jesus Christ is not one to be taken for granted / assumed salvation. Every verse is probationary in its intent. And it shows both the body and the individuals are being watched very closely.

However those who teach false doctrine are in trouble.

F2F

 

[Aunty Jane]

That's a roundabout answer to me saying that anyone in heaven is alive. Talking about what heaven was originally offered for or what God created humans for is irrelevant to what I said about heaven. None of it changes the fact that anyone in heaven right now is alive.

You’ve missed several points again…..
Heaven was never offered to any human before Christ opened the way there.
Only the “chosen ones” were offered “the heavenly calling”….because they were going to be given positions of “kings and priests” in God’s Kingdom…..(Rev 20:6)

“Kings” need subjects and “priests” need sinners for whom to perform their priestly duties….who were these ones in God’s nation of Israel? Could anyone become a king or a priest? NO! They had to be of a certain tribe, and know how to carry out their respective roles. No one could be both a king and a priest under Israel’s tribal system.
Jesus is called “the firstborn from the dead” in Col 1:15, because his death and resurrection was the first of its kind. It was not the first resurrection performed, because Christ and his apostles had already resurrected the dead.…..all were returned to this life. What a terrible thing to do to anyone who had gone to heaven to reef them back to this life, only to die again from some other cause, later!

God’s original purpose for mankind was for them to live forever in paradise on earth….by his rebellion, the devil created a roadblock to that, so God implemented a detour that would allow them to get back to their original destination. His purpose for mankind has never altered…..but if you think everyone is going to heaven…you are sadly mistaken. It was never in God’s purpose for that to happen, but seeing that humans were now uniquely shaped by the sin they inherited from Adam, God made sure that those who would bring them back into reconciliation with their Creator would be former humans who fully understood the difficulties of sin and would be kind and compassionate rulers for the thousand years it will take to undo all the damage that satan and his followers have done to this beautiful planet that God so lovingly prepared for his human children. He did not go to all that trouble for nothing. (Isa 45:18)

The Bible was literally put together by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. We Orthodox and Catholics are fully aware that the Bible is the word of God, we just know that's not the only gift God has given us. God also gave us the gift of Sacred Tradition, alongside the Bible..which is the word of God. Jesus and the Father are both God.

That is what your church teaches you…but it is not true. The Bible is God’s word and his alone….I can assure you that not a word in the Bible was written by a Catholic and not a book in it was decided upon by a corrupt church whose hands are dripping in blood…..the history of your church is appalling. Christ would never have set foot in it.

We are amillennial meaning that Christ will come one last time (we don't know when) for the final judgment and that's it, nothing more. We don't believe or obsess over the rapture or 1000 years of reign or 7 years of tribulations. We all have to endure tribulation, saved or not.

The “great tribulation” to come, will not be a picnic for any of us, but how we conduct ourselves before and during it, will determine our eternal destiny.

How will we all fare when “Babylon the great” is utterly destroyed…..will we have removed ourselves from that fallen ‘city’ before it is too late? We first have to identify “Babylon the great” in order to obey God’s command…..like original Babylon, this is a global empire of the devil’s counterfeit religions, which will be the first to go down.
If we are still clinging to that disgusting entity, we will share with her in her sins and receive her plagues….

“He cried out in a mighty voice:“Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a dwelling place for demons,a haunt for every unclean spiritand for every filthy and loathsome bird. For all the nations have drunk the wine of the wrath of her harlotry. The kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from her wealth and luxury.” Then I heard another voice from heaven saying:“Depart from her, my people, so that you will not take part in her sins and share in her plagues.” (Rev 18:2-3 NCB)

It's not twisted terminology, it's fact. If Jesus strictly taught from Jewish Scripture, we would all be Jews and not Christians. Christianity started with Jesus, not Jewish Scripture. The Jews have a totally different religion that rejects Jesus. There is no Christianity without Jesus and the NT.

You really have no idea who Jesus was if you think that. Jesus lived and died a Jew….all of his apostles were Jewish and he was sent only to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”……he was not sent to her corrupt leaders because God already knew that they were irredeemable. Jesus sentenced them to “Gehenna” ( which is not hell, but eternal death) Those in hades could be resurrected, but those in Gehenna were forever dead. This is what Jews believed and this what Jesus taught.

I mentioned the new covenant but you ignored it. That was instituted on the night of the last supper. The Jews knew that a “new covenant” would come with the appearance of the Messiah, but the religious leaders ignored it and continued on in their evil ways…..not being moved in the slightest by Jesus’ preaching.

Christendom is neither the modern day version nor sister version nor close cousin, etc. of first century Judaism whatsoever. Apples and oranges. Judaism is its own thing entirely on its own just like Christianity. You can actually find countless videos of Jews spitting on Christians in Israel, that's how much of a modern version of themselves they perceive Christians as. The foundation of Christianity is Christ, not Judaism. Jews have a completely different god that we don't believe in, the argument already dies right there. We don't believe in their god, they don't believe in ours. If the Jews really believed in our god, then they would proclaim that Jesus is God.

You have swallowed so many lies…..the Jewish religious system became horribly corrupt and rejected their Messiah, orchestrating his murder…..and for almost 2000 years now they are still unrepentant and have taught that Jesus was not the Messiah and are still breathing hatred for anyone who disagrees with them.
The Jews do not have a God who was different to Jesus….he served the same God they they claimed to worship….the god of Christendom is a different god….so different in fact that he suffers with multiple personality disorder. Jesus served the “one God” of Israel. (Deut 6:4)

What did Jesus tell them?

Matthew 23…..
“Woe to You, Teachers of the Law.“ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the entrance to the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor do you allow others to enter. . . . “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You journey over sea and land to make a single convert, and then you make that convert twice as worthy of Gehenna as you are. . . . You blind guides! You strain out a gnat and then swallow a camel! . . . “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How can you escape being condemned to Gehenna?
“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you murder the Prophets and stone the messengers sent to you! How often have I longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you would not allow it! Behold, your house has been abandoned and left desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say: ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’ ” (NCB)

Anyone who thinks that the Jews will collectively and magically repent at the end, are sadly mistaken. Pride will not let them. Individuals will be saved, but only those who repent will have any part in God’s kingdom.

Jesus did not come to start a new religion….he came to clean up the old one, and get the people ready for the implementation of the new covenant……so not a new religion at all….but a continuation of the way God wants to be worshipped under the rulership of his Messiah….who had given his life to save mankind, not just Jews.

 

[face2face]

The Apostate Harlot Church, its doctrines and dogma including all her daughters are seen in the Letter to Ephesus

 

[face2face]