What got you interested in eschatology and what was your learning process?

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covenantee

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There you go! And Jesus will return to FIGHT for the 'remnant' of Israel, in the Land of the Bible.

And here's what Jesus said about Israel wannabees who try to STEAL Israel's identity:

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

No more Israel wannabees!
So how does God distinguish the remnant of Israel from the rest of Israel?

How is the remnant of Israel different from the rest of Israel?

How does a member of the rest of Israel become a member of the remnant of Israel?
 

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So how does God distinguish the remnant of Israel from the rest of Israel?

How is the remnant of Israel different from the rest of Israel?

How does a member of the rest of Israel become a member of the remnant of Israel?
God knows. That's all that matters!
 

covenantee

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God knows. That's all that matters!
We know too.

Romans 11
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Paul was writing to the Church.
 

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We know too.

Romans 11
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Paul was writing to the Church.
He was writing to the Church ABOUT Israel. Are you in Israel? If you want to discuss this start a thread. I don't want to hijack Wynona's thread.
 

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He was writing to the Church ABOUT Israel. Are you in Israel? If you want to discuss this start a thread. I don't want to hijack Wynona's thread.
He was writing to the Church that the remnant of Israel is those from the rest of Israel who are saved by grace through faith in Christ, and are thus part of His Church.
 

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He was writing to the Church that the remnant of Israel is those from the rest of Israel who are saved by grace through faith in Christ, and are thus part of His Church.
Start a thread.
 

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Israel is the HEART of the Christian Bible. And Jesus is the God of Israel.

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

And that's where Jesus will return.
Not true! Jesus is the HEART of the Christian Bible and Jesus is the God of nations.
 

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There you go! And Jesus will return to FIGHT for the 'remnant' of Israel, in the Land of the Bible.

And here's what Jesus said about Israel wannabees who try to STEAL Israel's identity:

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

No more Israel wannabees!

A Jew today in God’s eyes is not physical but spiritual. Paul succinctly says, “he is a Jew, which is one inwardly.” Those that are born again, irrespective of nationality or color, are classed as true Jews.

Paul further reinforces his argument in Philippians 3:3, speaking of the Church generally, “For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the Spirit [Gr. pneuma], and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.”

This verse is another that presents a major difficulty for the literalists. Their insistence that every reference to Israel, Jew, children of Abraham and circumcision must be strictly interpreted literally is exposed by passages like this.

All through the New Testament the term “the circumcision” is used as a natural synonym for the Jews. Anywhere it is found, it is seen to describe (and encompass) the physical ethnic Jewish people. The term “the circumcision” in its normal usage related exclusively to natural Israel. We see this illustrated in Ephesians 2:11 where natural Jews are identified as “Circumcision in the flesh made by hands.”

Several other references are found in Acts 10:45, 11:2, Romans 3:30 Romans 4:9, 12, 15:8, Galatians 2:7-12, Colossians 2:11, 4:11 and Titus 1:10. It must be added, the term did embody the stranger that joined themselves to Israel by faith in Yahweh. However, they too had to submit to all the customs pertaining to Israel in faith and practice, including physical circumcision.
 
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Reading the posts in this section makes me feel like end times prophecy is the Bible topic that separates the dummies and the scholars.

How did you get interested in it? What was it like learning and coming up with views on it all?
I’m not gonna bore you with the details of my life with its ups and mostly downs.
Self-help books, self medication, christian literature, and hundreds of churches before I settled in on Shepherd Chapel

What peaked my interest is that they taught verse by verse. Plus Pastor Murray could teach a five-year-old so that was also comforting.

But it was the message that caught me, for it was to those that felt there was more to the Bible than they had been taught

If you haven’t checked out Shepherd Chapel, including the three earth ages, I would recommend you do if you lead.

Then Covid hit!
Right off the bat God told me this was fake

Then society turned it ugly head at me and others that would not comply, including my hospital. That’s when I knew evil was running our world. They were lying right to our faces.

I could recognize evil from dealing with law-enforcement with the normal criminal behavior, but all the doctors working together that was evil

Then I discovered Q

I was fascinated that this was a military sting operation so I jumped in
Let me tell you that has been a very interesting rabbit hole
Military is the only way!

Back to Arnold Murray, and 40 years of making predictions he even said 20 years ago it’s all going to start in Gaza

So you take Arnold Murray teaching, which I am pretty aware of after 40 years and the fact that I know Q for the last four years

My conclusions are the antichrist probably will show up later this year after a nuclear standoff and financial collapse probably showing up in the UFO

This is just not some kook talking. This is a lot of research behind what I am saying. I study this 24–7 when I’m not playing with the grandkids
 

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Reading the posts in this section makes me feel like end times prophecy is the Bible topic that separates the dummies and the scholars.

How did you get interested in it? What was it like learning and coming up with views on it all?

The Christian Church system I was raised in did not teach Bible prophecy. So when I grew up, I learned how to study The Bible for myself. I asked God to help me understand His Word, and He did. If I had not asked Him I don't think I would have learned in His Word.
 
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Anyone who doesn't believe we are in the LAST days just isn't paying attention.
 
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Anyone who doesn't believe we are in the LAST days just isn't paying attention.
They began 2,000 years ago.

Hebrews 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
 

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They began 2,000 years ago.

Hebrews 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
And they are ending in "this generation". The return of Israel, cashless society, mark of the beast, LGBT RAMPAGE, World Government, PERILOUS TIMES ...
 

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Reading the posts in this section makes me feel like end times prophecy is the Bible topic that separates the dummies and the scholars.

How did you get interested in it? What was it like learning and coming up with views on it all?
I don't want to discourage anyone in the study of end time prophecy. Show me a potential fulfillment, and I'll bite. But when it is conjecture upon conjecture presented as being authoritative... Forget about it.
 

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Israel is the HEART of the Christian Bible. And Jesus is the God of Israel.

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

And that's where Jesus will return.
Do you have any books besides Luke in the New Testament part of your Bible?

Romans 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

You act as if the church/body of Christ doesn't even exist.
 
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Jack

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Do you have any books besides Luke in the New Testament part of your Bible?
Yeah, lots of them.
Romans 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

You act as if the church/body of Christ doesn't even exist.
A VERY false accusation!
 

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Hello

Knowing that we are in the last days is great, but few people actually know where we are in the last days, time wise.

Goodbye
 
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I don't want to discourage anyone in the study of end time prophecy. Show me a potential fulfillment, and I'll bite. But when it is conjecture upon conjecture presented as being authoritative... Forget about it.
I don’t know if this qualifies as a potential fulfillment that will be determined July 7 or beyond

What I’m referring to is the book of Jonah and the recent eclipse over the same spot that was hit in New Mexico in the 1800s which led to a horrible earthquake largest 90 days after the eclipse

90 days after the recent eclipse is on July 7
Let’s wait and see if that will be a fulfillment

A few of my christian brothers are waiting for that day to see if we get another huge earthquake. That will shake the whole USA. 9.0. +

If it happens, that will get not only your attention, but everybody’s