Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

[Aunty Jane]

And what was Jesus offering them?

What did Jesus offer all his disciples?…..everlasting life, as part of his elect or as part of the great crowd.
No matter where we serve God, or in what capacity, Christ died for all who accept him as Messiah….”The son of God”….the savior of the world….

At 1 Cor 1:2-2, Pall addresses his letter to two groups…
”to the congregation of God that is in Corinth, to you who have been sanctified in union with Christ Jesus, called to be holy ones, together with all those everywhere who are calling on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:
3 May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Here, I believe we have an idea of the separation of the first Christians into those two groups. Those “called to be holy ones TOGETHER WITH ALL THOSE EVERYWHERE WHO ARE CALLING ON THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST…..THEIR LORD AND OURS”.

How are “all invited, but few chosen”? There has to be criteria….and only Jehovah knows whether that criteria is fulfilled in any individual he ‘calls’ to heaven. (Heb 3:1)

Why would Paul make such a differentiation if there was only one group? Would God call his elect simply because of their “belief” in Jesus?…..or were there qualities that had to be demonstrated in a life of dedicated service to God till the end of their earthly life? Some of them dying a cruel martyr’s death.

 

[RLT63]

If you don't stand up for something , pretty soon you stand for nothing.
The bible says "the righteous man judges all things, but he himself is judged of no one"

Maybe you think you have all the answers and know the one sure truth, which is exactly what they think.

 

[RLT63]

???

They knew exactly what I meant

 

[Keiw]

From what I’ve seen from the history of your religion the Holy Spirit must change his mind from time to time if you are correct

Actually, truth gets revealed( Matt 24:45) at the proper time= when God wills it to be known,= progressive. thus if one doesn't know a truth then error is taught, Ones seeking truth make correction when they find out they erred. At the proper time.

 

[Keiw]

And what was Jesus offering them?

Life everlasting in Gods kingdom.

 

[Keiw]

How is that denying Jesus deal working for you?
You will stand before Him one day.
Wont be pretty.

I don't deny Jesus, I know 100% he is the one sent by God to earth= the messiah, he is my king. I don't know what caused your confusion about it.

 

[Berean]

Life everlasting in Gods kingdom.

So the anointed were getting everlasting life in God's Kingdom?

 

[Berean]

What did Jesus offer all his disciples?…..everlasting life, as part of his elect or as part of the great crowd.
No matter where we serve God, or in what capacity, Christ died for all who accept him as Messiah….”The son of God”….the savior of the world….

He was offering His DISCIPLES aka the CHURCH, joint heirship, to be co-rulers with Him. Reconciling mankind back to God.

The Great Crowd is NOT an earthly class. The world of mankind, everyone OUTSIDE of the anointed ones, which includes the great crowd inherits earth after growing in grace and knowledge and passing the final test during the little season when Satan is let loose.

 

[RLT63]

Actually, truth gets revealed( Matt 24:45) at the proper time= when God wills it to be known,= progressive. thus if one doesn't know a truth then error is taught, Ones seeking truth make correction when they find out they erred. At the proper time.

I’ve seen that excuse before, it’s like your Church has given you talking points for troublesome topics that may come up

 

[rebuilder 454]

Maybe you think you have all the answers and know the one sure truth, which is exactly what they think.

Not all answers.
But the pillars of the faith are non negotiable.
The millions of martyrs that went before us, gave their lives for what watchtower thumbs their nose at.
What you are seeing in the watchtower parrots in here , is men trying to climb a dead religion ladder to heaven through works.
None of them will make it.
You must deny Jesus to join their empty wagon, and REFRAME the word of God.
Why do you think they changed the bible?

 

[rebuilder 454]

I don't deny Jesus, I know 100% he is the one sent by God to earth= the messiah, he is my king. I don't know what caused your confusion about it.

JEHOVAH calls him God. Do you?
JEHOVAH commands Him to be worshipped.
Two pillars. Non negotiable.
Where do you stand?

 

[Keiw]

So the anointed were getting everlasting life in God's Kingdom?

Yes as co rulers alongside of Christ( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6) and given immortality.

 

[Keiw]

I’ve seen that excuse before, it’s like your Church has given you talking points for troublesome topics that may come up

At the proper time cant mean anything else.
As well when one knows the prophecies in Ezekial, they find--truth starts out like a shallow stream then progessively gets deeper and deeper.

 

[Keiw]

JEHOVAH calls him God. Do you?
JEHOVAH commands Him to be worshipped.
Two pillars. Non negotiable.
Where do you stand?

The Greek lexicons call him god small g at John 1:1
The Greek word proskenaue carries 5 different meanings from Greek to English-1) worship to God-2) obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge, plus 2 others.
Every bible writer knew 100% the Messiah has a God( Psalm 45:7), they know 100% God does not have a God, thus in reality used obeisance to Gods appointed king, not worship as Catholicism translated in to fit false council teachings.

 

[RLT63]

The Greek lexicons call him god small g at John 1:1
The Greek word proskenaue carries 5 different meanings from Greek to English-1) worship to God-2) obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge, plus 2 others.
Every bible writer knew 100% the Messiah has a God( Psalm 45:7), they know 100% God does not have a God, thus in reality used obeisance to Gods appointed king, not worship as Catholicism translated in to fit false council teachings.

But they don’t call him “a” god.

 

[Aunty Jane]

If you don't stand up for something , pretty soon you stand for nothing.
The bible says "the righteous man judges all things, but he himself is judged of no one"

They have a history of damage control.
Their wagon is the emptiest of all the cults.

Every scripture you used as evidence for your beliefs was explained to you in how it was mistranslated, or misinterpreted using other scripture…..and in detail…..but you carried on as if nothing was said.

You mimic the Pharisees in denouncing what you cannot understand since you are apparently blinded by your own indoctrination….has it ever occurred to you that you are part of a majority, when Jesus plainly said that “few” are on the road to life (Matt 7:13-14)…..many people are definitely going to be shocked at Jesus’ rejection, (Matt 7:21-23) but it won’t be for want of trying to tell them the truth…..a very inconvenient truth.

It’s easier to aim your arrows because someone has a target painted on their back…just like Jesus and his disciples did…..who painted the target?…..Jesus warned us about people like you. (John 15:18-21)

All you do here is disparage and defame, which is exactly what Jesus and his disciples copped from those who were so indoctrinated with their own view that they couldn’t see past the blind rage that occurred when their beliefs were exposed as false.

You have provided no rebuttal for your position except to bad mouth people you have been taught to hate…..is that Christian?

 

[RLT63]

Every scripture you used as evidence for your beliefs was explained to you in how it was mistranslated, or misinterpreted using other scripture…..and in detail…..but you carried on as if nothing was said.

You mimic the Pharisees in denouncing what you cannot understand since you are apparently blinded by your own indoctrination….has it ever occurred to you that you are part of a majority, when Jesus plainly said that “few” are on the road to life (Matt 7:13-14)…..many people are definitely going to be shocked at Jesus’ rejection, (Matt 7:21-23) but it won’t be for want of trying to tell them the truth…..a very inconvenient truth.

It’s easier to aim your arrows because someone has a target painted on their back…just like Jesus and his disciples did…..who painted the target?…..Jesus warned us about people like you. (John 15:18-21)

All you do here is disparage and defame, which is exactly what Jesus and his disciples copped from those who were so indoctrinated with their own view that they couldn’t see past the blind rage that occurred when their beliefs were exposed as false.

You have provided no rebuttal for your position except to bad mouth people you have been taught to hate…..is that Christian?

We may not agree on much but I have to give you credit for this part:

“You have provided no rebuttal for your position except to bad mouth people you have been taught to hate…..is that Christian?”

 

[Aunty Jane]

But they don’t call him “a” god.

A little excursion into Greek grammar will tell you why “a” god is still scriptural.

Greek only has the definite article, (the) not the indefinite one. (a or an) So it must be inserted at the appropriate places by the interpreter to make English flow as we would speak it. Now if the interpreter has a bias and chooses to place or omit a descriptive word in English that does not appear in Greek, can you see room there for fiddling with the facts?

“Theos” in Greek is “god” (they have no capital letters) so again it’s up to the interpreter to see the “ho” before a word and add “the” as it does in John 1:1 when speaking about Yahweh….but when “theos” has no definite article, it can describe “a god”…..or “a god-like one”…or “one authorized by the Father to act as his representative”, which is why God could call human judges on earth “gods” (theos without the definite article) in John 10:31-36. They acted on his behalf.

We may not agree on much but I have to give you credit for this part:

“You have provided no rebuttal for your position except to bad mouth people you have been taught to hate…..is that Christian?”

Discussions can be mature or immature…..we decide what to say and how to say it…..we show who we really are by the way we handle touchy subjects……

 

[Keiw]

But they don’t call him “a” god.

The Greek lexicons does. There have been at least 20 translations in history with a god at John 1:1. Translated by Greek scholars.

 

[Berean]

Yes as co rulers alongside of Christ( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6) and given immortality.

Glad you added that last clause. The Church class is given IMMORTALITY, not Everlasting life, there's a difference.