Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

[MonoBiblical]

They think theirs’ is the real Jesus and that only they have the truth. They think everyone else is wrong. It’s kind of hard to make inroads with someone with that mindset. Most of them are firmly convinced of their beliefs and you’re not likely to change their minds

They don't like my Preterist beliefs either. It may be best to make fun of them, since they are dying, but I really think they need help and college education.

 

[RLT63]

They don't like my Preterist beliefs either. It may be best to make fun of them, since they are dying, but I really think they need help and college education.

I couldn’t accept all of Preterism. It makes a lot of sense until you get to the book of Revelation, then it doesn’t fit at all.
I can see how someone could believe that way though.

 

[MonoBiblical]

I couldn’t accept all of Preterism. It makes a lot of sense until you get to the book of Revelation, then it doesn’t fit at all.
I can see how someone could believe that way though.

Some of it is obvious. The 2 witnesses are Jesus and John the Baptiser.

 

[MonoBiblical]

I couldn’t accept all of Preterism.

I don't seem to do so either. I like how it accepts the goodness of other religions, besides Judaism and Christianity; but we should not tolerate destructive religions like Islam.

 

[Berean]

Luke 22:29-30--And i make a covenant with you just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom-30)That you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and SIT ON THRONES to judge the 12 tribes of Israel--The covenant was=Luke 22--parataking of the blood and flesh of Jesus symbolically with wine and unleavened bread. Only to these-Rev 14:3=144,000 bought from the earth= the anointed bride of Christ= the little flock. Only members of the little flock were present the night of the Lords evening meal. The great crowd-Observes and do not partake-Paul warned them they weren't worthy- 1Cor 11:27)

Soooo ... the great crowd was around during Paul's time? And he told them to observe and not partake? Hmm ... pretty imaginative.

 

[Keiw]

No, because both have false another Jesus. JW's Jesus is not God, LDS He became a god at his resurrection and exhaultation. No the real Jesus for either. They need to get the real Jesus right first to have a chance to get saved. Both are victims of invincible ignorance.

So you think you know the real Jesus--lets see..

Enter through the narrow gate, for broad and spacious the path that leads to destruction and many have entered this way, for cramped is the road that leads off into life, FEW are the ones finding it

JW,s= 1 single religion, unified worldwide brotherhood in peace, love and unity of thought.

hundreds of trinity religions, with hundreds of different truths= a mass of confusion, kill one another in wars on the orders of wicked men,=0 love amongst themselves, 0 unity of thought on Gods 1 truth.

a 10 year old can see the correct path by listening to Jesus.

 

[Keiw]

Soooo ... the great crowd was around during Paul's time? And he told them to observe and not partake? Hmm ... pretty imaginative.

Yes some belonged to the great crowd, most are on earth today, very few little flock are around today, most lived in Jesus' day. 11 members of the little flock were present at the Lords supper-0 of the great crowd were present. I showed you Paul's warning--that means not all are worthy to partake, I showed you fact on what the bible teaches about it. Who do you think he warned? Because ONLY the little flock and great crowd of other sheep who are not of that fold will be saved. One flock but 2 groups. I know you have no understanding of the little flock and great crowd because blind guides lead 99% of all religions claiming to be christian. 1 Cor 1:10 assures Jesus is with 1 single religion. Its that one single religion who gets holy spirit guiding them into all truth, the rest are a disunified mass of confusion because they do not have holy spirit. Hundreds of trinity based religions with hundreds of different truths all claim to have holy spirit guidance. The holy spirit would be awfully confused if it were truth.

 

[Berean]

Enter through the narrow gate, for broad and spacious the path that leads to destruction and many have entered this way, for cramped is the road that leads off into life, FEW are the ones finding it

Who was Jesus speaking too here?

 

[Keiw]

Who was Jesus speaking too here?

All who wanted to follow him properly.

 

[RLT63]

Yes some belonged to the great crowd, most are on earth today, very few little flock are around today, most lived in Jesus' day. 11 members of the little flock were present at the Lords supper-0 of the great crowd were present. I showed you Paul's warning--that means not all are worthy to partake, I showed you fact on what the bible teaches about it. Who do you think he warned? Because ONLY the little flock and great crowd of other sheep who are not of that fold will be saved. One flock but 2 groups. I know you have no understanding of the little flock and great crowd because blind guides lead 99% of all religions claiming to be christian. 1 Cor 1:10 assures Jesus is with 1 single religion. Its that one single religion who gets holy spirit guiding them into all truth, the rest are a disunified mass of confusion because they do not have holy spirit. Hundreds of trinity based religions with hundreds of different truths all claim to have holy spirit guidance. The holy spirit would be awfully confused if it were truth.

From what I’ve seen from the history of your religion the Holy Spirit must change his mind from time to time if you are correct

 

[Aunty Jane]

From what I’ve seen from the history of your religion the Holy Spirit must change his mind from time to time if you are correct

According to proverbs 4:18….
”But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light
That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight.”

Picture yourself on a dark path before dawn and as the sun begins to rise, the higher it gets, the clearer you see where you are going…..that is how it is with Bible truth…it is progressive…it unfolds more and more with the passage of time, and the closer we get to the end of this present system of world rulership, the clearer things become.
It isn’t that the holy spirit has changed anything…..it has just clarified what we already knew and refined it, often revealing facets that were not previously acknowledged.

it’s those stuck in a time warp who have not progressed at all in these last days who argue with the truth as it is now accepted…..Jesus said that he would appoint a “faithful and discreet slave“ to “feed” his whole household “their food at the proper time” (Matt 24:45)….as Jesus reveals these things they are “fed” to his servants on earth and there are no divisions among them….no dissension, and no in-fighting. (1 Cor 1:10)

People often wonder why these adjustments don’t bother us, and we have to say that clarification is a wonderful thing as we see more clearly with each facet of the diamond that is examined in new light. We have not stagnated in our understanding, but we have progressed in our knowledge…..
I for one rejoice in this continuing revelation of truth.

 

[marks]

People often wonder why these adjustments don’t bother us, and we have to say that clarification is a wonderful thing as we see more clearly with each facet of the diamond that is examined in new light. We have not stagnated in our understanding, but we have progressed in our knowledge…..
I for one rejoice in this continuing revelation of truth.

That's a rather sanitized version, wouldn't you say? Prophecies made that were not fulfilled make one a false prophet. This is elementary.

Much love!

 

[RLT63]

According to proverbs 4:18….
”But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light
That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight.”

Picture yourself on a dark path before dawn and as the sun begins to rise, the higher it gets, the clearer you see where you are going…..that is how it is with Bible truth…it is progressive…it unfolds more and more with the passage of time, and the closer we get to the end of this present system of world rulership, the clearer things become.
It isn’t that the holy spirit has changed anything…..it has just clarified what we already knew and refined it, often revealing facets that were not previously acknowledged.

it’s those stuck in a time warp who have not progressed at all in these last days who argue with the truth as it is now accepted…..Jesus said that he would appoint a “faithful and discreet slave“ to “feed” his whole household “their food at the proper time” (Matt 24:45)….as Jesus reveals these things they are “fed” to his servants on earth and there are no divisions among them….no dissension, and no in-fighting. (1 Cor 1:10)

People often wonder why these adjustments don’t bother us, and we have to say that clarification is a wonderful thing as we see more clearly with each facet of the diamond that is examined in new light. We have not stagnated in our understanding, but we have progressed in our knowledge…..
I for one rejoice in this continuing revelation of truth.

Mal 3:6 - For I am the LORD, I change not;

 

[Aunty Jane]

That's a rather sanitized version, wouldn't you say? Prophecies made that were not fulfilled make one a false prophet. This is elementary.

No, actually there were no prophesies that were not fulfilled….we just got the timing wrong because not everything had come to light yet. It has been the same prophesy all along.

Even the apostles got things wrong with the timing of this event…..how often did they imply an imminent return of Christ and yet here we are almost 2000 years down the track and he has not yet arrived as judge and executioner with his heavenly forces?

What did they say to him as he was ascending to heaven?
“So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” 7 He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.”

The apostles were expecting the immanent establishment of God’s Kingdom on earth as they had been taught in the Jewish expectation of Messiah’s kingdom. But Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would reveal everything to them and to wait for it. What changed at Pentecost? They now understood their election to heaven and that God’s kingdom was going to rule from heaven with them as co-rulers with Christ and as priests under his headship as High Priest. (Rev 20:6) It was a huge revelation to them.…and an impetus to serve with renewed vigor.

We have made suggestions in times past as to the timing of this one event, but as Jesus said….it doesn’t belong to us to know when these things will take place….we just have to be ready when they do. (Matt 24:43-44)

We know that Jesus said to his disciples that “satan has demanded to sift you as wheat”…..so sifting has occurred from time to time to test out those who were serving a year, or themselves, instead of their Lord…

Any who went beyond what was written and acted foolishly, paid the price…..and were sifted out.
We all have these tests from time to time to see where our heart is.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Mal 3:6 - For I am the LORD, I change not;

And where have we ever said that Yahweh has changed one iota?

 

[Berean]

All who wanted to follow him properly.

And what was Jesus offering them?

 

[rebuilder 454]

I don’t agree with them but it’s up to God to do the judging, not me.

If you don't stand up for something , pretty soon you stand for nothing.
The bible says "the righteous man judges all things, but he himself is judged of no one"

 

[rebuilder 454]

So you think you know the real Jesus--lets see..

Enter through the narrow gate, for broad and spacious the path that leads to destruction and many have entered this way, for cramped is the road that leads off into life, FEW are the ones finding it

JW,s= 1 single religion, unified worldwide brotherhood in peace, love and unity of thought.

hundreds of trinity religions, with hundreds of different truths= a mass of confusion, kill one another in wars on the orders of wicked men,=0 love amongst themselves, 0 unity of thought on Gods 1 truth.

a 10 year old can see the correct path by listening to Jesus.

How is that denying Jesus deal working for you?
You will stand before Him one day.
Wont be pretty.

 

[rebuilder 454]

From what I’ve seen from the history of your religion the Holy Spirit must change his mind from time to time if you are correct

???

 

[rebuilder 454]

That's a rather sanitized version, wouldn't you say? Prophecies made that were not fulfilled make one a false prophet. This is elementary.

Much love!

They have a history of damage control.
Their wagon is the emptiest of all the cults.