Is it possible not to sin anymore?

[TonyChanYT]

I have faith that before I die, Jesus will finish His pruning away all the venial sins in me.

So you do sin these days?

 

[Peterlag]

Verse 4 is important as the context of chapter three, talking about breaking the LAWS of God (sins unto death) or "mortal" sins, because the desire to break those laws is what Jesus in verse 5 cleansed out of our nature. We now have the desire to be righteous as in verse 10, the opposite of lawlessness. But the context is not about "venial" sins.

So, chapter 3 is not talking about sins not unto death (venial sins) which are immature fruit of the Spirit. But John in John 15:1-4 still acknowledges 1 John 3:5 in calling us "CLEAN."

I post verses that have us in Christ. I'm not posting verses about Christ in us or before we had the spirit of Christ. The verses I list deal with Christians who are walking in the spirit of Christ.

1 John 3 & 5
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.

 

[Peterlag]

This will be the 3rd and the last time I am asking:

Do you sin, period?

I don't know and I don't care. I'm only concerned with staying in the spirit of Christ. And when I'm in the spirit of Christ I am not sinning.

 

[Peterlag]

Do you believe in the Trinity?

I'm going to take that as you don't know if it's 1 or 2. Forget about Jesus for a minute. Let's see if we can figure out what God is. Let's say he's Spirit. So we can add that to Jesus. Now we have 2. What's the 3rd one?

 

[Naomanos]

I'm going to take that as you don't know if it's 1 or 2. Forget about Jesus for a minute. Let's see if we can figure out what God is. Let's say he's Spirit. So we can add that to Jesus. Now we have 2. What's the 3rd one?

You didn't ask me that question. I am asking you if you believe in the Trinity.

Yes or no? That I'd all I am looking for. Yes or no.

 

[Philip James]

One is Father. Another is God. He is not either of those

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Do you sin according to any of these senses of sin?

Those that are unknown to me, yes. I have made it a habit to never do anything against my conscience. Paul made that clear to me to always live with a clear conscience, so I do. It is so simple. It is also the way to abide in Him, and He in me.

How about you. Same question.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I post verses that have us in Christ. I'm not posting verses about Christ in us or before we had the spirit of Christ. The verses I list deal with Christians who are walking in the spirit of Christ.

1 John 3 & 5
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.

The point is that even AFTER we have been born again of the Spirit, we will still commit minor sins not unto death. If you don't recognize what TYPE of sin we are talking about in 1 John 3, you will still consider yourself a sinner when we are actually children of God and walking in the light.

This is why some in the church laugh at "sinless perfection," even though 1 John 3:5 is not claiming sinless perfection, ONLY sinlessness. Perfection takes a lifetime, and if ever reached, then they are both sinless and perfect. Jesus doesn't want us to be merely sinless, but to also bear fruit unto perfection. and holiness.

 

[Peterlag]

You didn't ask me that question. I am asking you if you believe in the Trinity.

Yes or no? That I'd all I am looking for. Yes or no.

The point is that even AFTER we have been born again of the Spirit, we will still commit minor sins not unto death. If you don't recognize what TYPE of sin we are talking about in 1 John 3, you will still consider yourself a sinner when we are actually children of God and walking in the light.

This is why some in the church laugh at "sinless perfection," even though 1 John 3:5 is not claiming sinless perfection, ONLY sinlessness. Perfection takes a lifetime, and if ever reached, then they are both sinless and perfect. Jesus doesn't want us to be merely sinless, but to also bear fruit unto perfection. and holiness.

I don't follow what is in your mind and I think you don't follow what's in mine. The verses I post say whosoever abideth in him sinneth not. They don't say anything about perfection.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I don't follow what is in your mind and I think you don't follow what's in mine. The verses I post say whosoever abideth in him sinneth not. They don't say anything about perfection.

How do you know if you are abiding in Him, if you don't know what the criteria is? We first become righteous before we can become perfect. So what makes us KNOW that we are righteous as the first step?

 

[Peterlag]

How do you know if you are abiding in Him, if you don't know what the criteria is? We first become righteous before we can become perfect. So what makes us KNOW that we are righteous as the first step?

I wrote a few pages on walking in him. I struggle trying to define it because nobody seems to get it and I think it's because we have been so ingrained on walking in our flesh and calling it spiritual that nobody knows anything different. I see it and I don't know how to teach it. Here's a few pages I wrote on it dealing also with the sin nature. Let me know if it makes any sense to you...
www.carb-fat.com/walking-by-the-spirit.html

 

[TonyChanYT]

I don't know and I don't care.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

So you don't confess your sins because you don't care if you sin?

 

[Peterlag]

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

So you don't confess your sins because you don't care if you sin?

I don't believe in confessing sins. Most Christians still believe the spirit of Christ makes their flesh spiritual. And this is why they believe their sins are forgiven when they are born again up to that point, but must run to God to confess and repent their new sins every time they sin after becoming a Christian. The belief is that you will either be lost, or on your way to hell, or at the very least God will not fellowship with you, and He certainly will not answer your prayers if you are found with an unconfessed sin. Such a concept would mean everybody would be on their way to hell because there is not a person on this earth who does not have either a known or an unknown unconfessed sin. Now if this new sin just means the loss of a relationship with God, which would include unanswered prayers. Then God would not have a single person on this earth qualified to receive an answer to prayer or to be able to fellowship with Him.

 

[TonyChanYT]

I don't know and I don't care. I'm only concerned with staying in the spirit of Christ. And when I'm in the spirit of Christ I am not sinning.

Were you in the spirit of Christ when you said you didn't care if you sinned?

Are you in the spirit of Christ right now when you are reading my response?

Do you have the Paraclete dwelling in you when you were born again?

Do you have peace?

 

[TonyChanYT]

I don't believe in confessing sins.

Do you know of anyone else sharing this belief with you?

 

[Bob Estey]

Matthew 5:


1 Corinthians 10:


Theoretically, it is possible to live a sinless life. In practice, Romans 7:


By the grace of God, when we fail, we confess and repent. God will forgive. We can only take it one day at a time. Hopefully, our spiritual condition next year will be better this year.

1 John 3:


We are encouraged in Genesis 5:

I think it's possible not to sin anymore - I think that's the goal. Did I say that I don't sin anymore?

 

[Peterlag]

Do you know of anyone else sharing this belief with you?

Yep, I sure do. Some have pretty big ministries. Andrew Wommack is one of them.

 

[TonyChanYT]

Yep, I sure do. Some have pretty big ministries. Andrew Wommack is one of them.

Can you reference his writing?

 

[Peterlag]

Can you reference his writing?

Google his name.

 

[TonyChanYT]

Google his name.

Did you make a claim about Andrew Wommack?