Yeah, you're revealing God's righteousness from faith to faith (Ro 1:5,16,17, 14:5,23), not your own from the Law (Php 3:9).That does lead to becoming spiritually wealthy.
Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life
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Do you believe that Yahava, will judge all people - Christians included regardless of their faith - with merits of their decisions of good and bad that they had done, which they will receive an habitation to reside in? There is this constant thing where you continuously say if you are not abiding in Christ - you are not having salvation or not considered for salvation or something like that, ( i may misrepresenting you I dont mean to.) There are people who are weak in faith, and people who are strong in faith - all having faith in the death, burial, and resurrection. Some people abide a bit more in the flesh, some more in the spirit, but doesn't it take time, and doesn't God take his time with his children, chastening them as they go along?
You have your own experiences with God. I would think God's Word only echoes those Realities.
Romans 2 says the Christian Jews were storing up wrath for themselves because of their disdain for their Gentile Christian brothers and their pride over their knowledge of the Law while also being breakers of the Law (hypocrisy), so, yes.
I'm partly discussing this to suss it out myself! lol I present what I found, and with all the grace in us hovering over it, it helps me understand it.
Talking with Christians is edifying because they have the Holy Spirit, not because they have answers per se. Their grace edifies me, corrects me, enlightens me. They all hate me, but it doesn't matter, they have the Holy Spirit, that's what matters. LOL
"He who waters others will himself be watered"--I get reminded of a lot, and enlightened sometimes, while talking with others.
As I have told someone here before, who cares what people think. That is the last thing one needs to worry about. I can get a bit tight jawed, when discussing with some people, In the end what matters it loving Yahava first. It always comes out to loving God first. Then to love your neighbor as yourself.
What does it mean to love oneself? Proverbs 19:8 To acquire wisdom is to love oneself; people who cherish understanding will prosper.
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"He who waters others will himself be watered"--I get reminded of a lot, and enlightened sometimes, while talking with others. Even people who hate me. LOL
I dont know who hates who, nor do I know if they hate me or dislike me. I do not think that is important to point out or make a notice in my opinion. I am going to bed. Good night.
For instance, someone actually boasted that they and their like-minded friends here all relished the fact that they made me upset because of their disorderliness and destruction of my thread. They did not treat me with love, they loved harming me, contrary to God's command (1 Jn 3:23). They love evil. It's not surprising, since they don't hold to God's Word, whereby He sanctifies us (John 17:17), so, of course they're going to behave wickedly to the degree they reject God's Word.
I guess it's just surprising to me that people who hate me so much could actually be so useful to me, so I noted it. LOL
It's not the words that need to be changed. It's your understanding of them that needs to be changed. Your way would mean we win God's heart through works. Right back to the Law.
So, then, you agree that only those who obey Christ abide in Christ and are given the Spirit (1 Jn 3:23,24), bc the eternal life God has promised us is only located in His Son (1 Jn 5:11), right?
I do not agree. Those in Christ abide because they already have the spirit. Nobody can try to be good and get the spirit.
So, you're going back on your words you formerly spoke
You do not agree with God's Word, which explicitly states abiding in Christ is by obeying His Commands (believe in the Name of God's Son and love one another) and then you receive the Spirit.
1 John 3
23This is His commandment,
that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another,
just as He commanded us.
24The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him.
And by this we know that He remains in us: by the Spirit He has given us.
I have no idea why you say I'm going back on my words. I speak the same truth every time so there's no need to go back and forth. You simply do not understand what I'm saying because you see the Scriptures different than I do. You're stuck on this 1 John 3:23-24 thinking that it means something that I believe it does not mean. So I can't help you.
Well, I don't know why you're saying you don't know why I'm saying you're going back on your words--I literally quoted your words to you. Here, let me remind you again.
I said...
You responded
So, yes, you affirmed the words, but, now, you're repudiating the words, and you're even denying you said it (unless you had a different understanding than your words conveyed).
Yes, I'm "stuck" on Scripture--what a sin!
It's not the Scripture you're stuck on. It's you religion your stuck on. And why do you keep saying I'm changing my mind or changing my words?
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