Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

[Eternally Grateful]

Again, the eternal life is in Christ, but not all abide in Him, so, if they don't remain where the life is, they won't stay alive. Is that a difficult teaching?

So again, you teach conditional life. Not eternal

Jesus said you will never die.. You said that is not true. So Jesus lied..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes, you are bothered that your tradition is debunked.

Sorry Bro. My God does not lie more does he contradict himself..

My faith is not on broken promises and my own power. It is in God..

 

[GracePeace]

So again, you teach conditional life. Not eternal

Jesus said you will never die.. You said that is not true. So Jesus lied..

Nope, the life is eternal, but it's only in Him, and not all remain in Him.

Not sure if youre pretending not to understand or if you actually can't understand it. It's not hard .

 

[GracePeace]

Sorry Bro. My God does not lie more does he contradict himself..

My faith is not on broken promises and my own power. It is in God..

I didn't say God lied, I said you misunderstood God. Big difference.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nope, the life is eternal, but it's only in Him, and not all remain in Him.

then its not eternal. No matter how you try to twist it

Not sure if youre pretending not to understand or if you actually can't understand it. It's not hard .

Your right its not hard.

Never die, and live forever is a promise given to everyone who looks up to the cross. And believes. To everyone who eats the bread from heaven, To everyone who hears the word and believes. They have passed from life to death and will not be condemned

But according to you. This is not true…

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I didn't say God lied, I said you misunderstood God. Big difference.

According to your doctrine God lied.

Sorry bro. Thats just the facts..

I understand that when God makes a promise he keeps it.. Thats what being rescued is all about. Trusting in the promises of God.. not in self.

 

[GracePeace]

Sorry Bro. My God does not lie more does he contradict himself..

My faith is not on broken promises and my own power. It is in God..

Yup, were agreeing we must have faith in God, we're only disagreeing on what God actually said, and what it is that we should believe.

You notice how I'm just stating my position, but you're endlessly accusing and calling me names ? Lol
Its because you know your position is weak and indefensible.

 

[GracePeace]

then its not eternal. No matter how you try to twist it


Your right its not hard.

Never die, and live forever is a promise given to everyone who looks up to the cross. And believes. To everyone who eats the bread from heaven, To everyone who hears the word and believes. They have passed from life to death and will not be condemned

But according to you. This is not true…

Sorry, I've explained it, and I'm satisfied with the explanation. Anyone who wants to believe the Bible, not their own thoughts, can believe what I've purported, anyone who wants to believe their baseless traditions can do that, too.

 

[GracePeace]

According to your doctrine God lied.

Sorry bro. Thats just the facts..

I understand that when God makes a promise he keeps it.. Thats what being rescued is all about. Trusting in the promises of God.. not in self.

You don't know what God said--that's what I'm proving over and over.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yup, were agreeing we must have faith in God, we're only disagreeing on what God actually said, and what it is that we should believe.

You notice how I'm just stating my position, but you're endlessly accusing and calling me names ? Lol

I posted what God said.

God said YOU WILL NEVER DIE BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED.. no mention of abiding in him, non whatsoever. For somethign so important, God sure left it out of his message in 4 consecutive chapters..

You said that is not true

hence GOD LIED.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sorry, I've explained it, and I'm satisfied with the explanation.

It does not matter if you’re satisfied or not. it matters what the word says, this is not about you or me.

Anyone who wants to believe the Bible, not their own thoughts, can believe what I've purported, anyone who wants to believe their traditions can do that, too

If people want to believe the Bible. They will nto listen to you. You preach works, not grace.. You’re no different that the pharisee or the jews Paul called fools. Because they too thought they began in the spirit but must perfect in the flesh

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You don't know what God said--that's what I'm proving over and over.

Yeah you’re right I do not know. Even though in almost every post. i post what God said word for word.

Now you see why everyone stopped talking to you yesterday.. Are you happy now. You proved my point.. Thank you

 

[GracePeace]

I posted what God said.

God said YOU WILL NEVER DIE BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED.. no mention of abiding in him, non whatsoever. For somethign so important, God sure left it out of his message in 4 consecutive chapters..

You said that is not true

hence GOD LIED.

Nope, it doesn't say "believe one time", it says "believing", ongoing, just like the "abide" doctrine states--the same doctrine you said doesn't teach eternal life depends on abiding, based on nothing but ignorance, whereas Scripture says you'll get thrown in the fire if you don't abide. You don't have a clue. Go listen to another bird vomit sermon, you can't think for yourself.

 

[GracePeace]

Yeah you’re right I do not know. Even though in almost every post. i post what God said word for word.

Now you see why everyone stopped talking to you yesterday.. Are you happy now. You proved my point.. Thank you

I don't need anyone to talk to me. Why would they when they just get disproven? They don't like being disproven.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nope, it doesn't say "believe one time", it says "believing", ongoing, just like the "abide" doctrine states--the same doctrine you said doesn't teach eternal life depends on abiding, based on nothing but ignorance, whereas Scripture says you'll get thrown in the fire if you don't abide. You don't have a clue. Go listen to another bird vomit sermon, you can't think for yourself.

Lol

Did the people have to keep looking at the serpent to be saved? of course not. They looked, and when they had faith they lived.

it says the moment you believe you will never die. And you will live forever.

jesus did not say keep on beieving and maybe you will not die. Thats your interpretation

jesus said those who do not believe are condemned already. They never left the state of condemnation. If you’re right, Again, jesus would be in error. Because one could believe, and start to not believe again, and be condemned again.

Jesus did not say this.

 

[GracePeace]

It does not matter if you’re satisfied or not. it matters what the word says, this is not about you or me.

If people want to believe the Bible. They will nto listen to you. You preach works, not grace.. You’re no different that the pharisee or the jews Paul called fools. Because they too thought they began in the spirit but must perfect in the flesh

Yes I preach walking in faith, just as James said "Abraham was justified by works [of faith]"--just as Paul says the believer who doesn't walk in faith, but does what he doubts, is "condemned" because Gods righteousness is only revealed "from faith to faith" (Ro 1:5,16,17, 14:5,23).

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I don't need anyone to talk to me. Why would they when they just get disproven? They don't like being disproven.

Yet it was you that got mad and cried yesterday when no one talked to you. Come on man, Are you serious?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes I preach walking in faith, just as James said "Abraham was justified by works [of faith]"--just as Paul says the believer who doesn't walk in faith, but does what he doubts, is "condemned" because Gods righteousness is only revealed "from faith to faith" (Ro 1:5,16,17, 14:5,23).

No you don’t. You preach walk in self. If you do not. You will lose salvation and be lost

I believe in the power of God to change lives,,

when will you?

 

[GracePeace]

Lol

Did the people have to keep looking at the serpent to be saved? of course not. They looked, and when they had faith they lived.

it says the moment you believe you will never die. And you will live forever.

jesus did not say keep on beieving and maybe you will not die. Thats your interpretation

jesus said those who do not believe are condemned already. They never left the state of condemnation. If you’re right, Again, jesus would be in error. Because one could believe, and start to not believe again, and be condemned again.

Jesus did not say this.

The serpent was a type, it doesn't have a one for one comparability--if it does, then you believe that Jesus Christ will be destroyed in the future, because people are idolizing Him, just as occurred with the bronze serpent.
You demonstrate profound ignorance once again.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The serpent was a type, it doesn't have a one for one comparability--if it does, then you believe that Jesus Christ will be destroyed in the future, because people are idolizing Him, just as occurred with the bronze serpent.

Your right, it was a type/ Jesus said JUST AS MOSES LIFTED HE SERPENT.

in other words. You want to see what salvation or being born again looks like. Look to that.

You demonstrate profound ignorance once again.

dude you want to keep talking like this, I will report you. if you can not have a normal discussion. Then you will be reported..