How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

[Patrick1966]

Yes, as well as myself also. Seems WAY too many cannot handle that we do not agree with them, lol. I do not care if someone on here is in sync with my beliefs or not, no skin off my nose. Brother, I'm way, way over any and all arguments. If the "opinions" of others don't line up with what we honestly believe is written in scripture, it's in the trash can, and they will surely keep arguing and being all passive/aggressive about it too.
It's fine as it now rolls off my back. :)

I try not to take things too seriously and to try and appreciate and love others here regardless of their doctrines. That's what we're supposed to do. Just love one another, dummy. ;)

 

[Nancy]

I try not to take things too seriously and to try and appreciate and love others here regardless of their doctrines. That's what we're supposed to do. Just love one another, dummy. ;)

Without love/charity-we are lost as lost can be. We could be exhibiting every fruit of The Spirit and yet exclude "love". Which IMHO, cancels the rest out because they were not coming from ...love, agape is God's love, amen and all the glory to Him!

 

[St. SteVen]

I dont believe that this forum is the church that hell wont prevail against.

Or perhaps the opposite?
This forum is the hell that the church wont prevail against. - LOL

 

[Patrick1966]

Without love/charity-we are lost as lost can be. We could be exhibiting every fruit of The Spirit and yet exclude "love". Which IMHO, cancels the rest out because they were not coming from ...love, agape is God's love, amen and all the glory to Him!

Amen. What good is it to perfectly understand God's word if we don't love one another?

 

[Patrick1966]

Hello Nancy,

Do you think that school teachings would be better, than going to a church?

To be presented with the biblical narrative, but also have someone say - hey you know I could be wrong but you should consult with God through prayer, but also be encouraged to seek yourself by going and checking out the Bible?

A few years ago I did start making videos via teaching, but admitted hey I could be wrong, it worked out but due to my relapses during one of them I went and deleted them all.

Thought about going forward and doing it again, and as time goes on and everything gets better, maybe could figure out how to be able to teach other people that might wanna just learn, overall just the bible, and the content with in it.

That is what has helped me a lot, fellowship is nice. However, when it comes to establishing very good grounded relationships with others, over all it seems that I have failed in that area.

But what are your thoughts? Simply sharing with others in the home is a good thing, with those who are willingly to come by, maybe you could make some food eat together, either before sharing, or after sharing and just talk about life afterwards, and pray and just encourage one another.

You have a good point about how they would visit at houses, thank you for some things to think about as that was some of my experience in church as well, that doesn't mean at least 1 out of 10 churches are not ; not feeding the flock like they should why the others put on a show.

All the best nancy, and thank you also for your encouragement,
Matthew

This forum is great for doctrinal discussions. In a church setting or in someone's home I would stay away from that and would stick to loving, praising, and thanking God, the importance of demonstrating that love through obedience, and that we MUST love another as ourselves!

Imagine if I went into a church and said that Jesus will save ALL? LOL! I'd be the next one getting crucified.

 

[MatthewG]

This forum is great for doctrinal discussions. In a church setting or in someone's home I would stay away from that and would stick to loving, praising, and thanking God, the importance of demonstrating that love through obedience, and that we MUST love another as ourselves!

Imagine if I went into a church and said that Jesus will save ALL? LOL! I'd be the next one getting crucified.

Hello Patrick1966

It was a question to see what nancy was thinking, women tend to be more … forth coming than us men? Figured she might have some advice or encouragement.

Thank you for your opinion, not everyone desires to do the same things as others and everyone has their place in the body of Christ as believers.

Some are eyes, some are toes, some might be an butt (thats me), some are nails, some are legs, some are arms, some are chests.

All the best to you and your family,
Matthew

 

[Patrick1966]

Hello Patrick1966

It was a question to see what nancy was thinking, women tend to be more … forth coming than us men? Figured she might have some advice or encouragement.

Thank you for your opinion, not everyone desires to do the same things as others and everyone has their place in the body of Christ as believers.

Some are eyes, some are toes, some might be an butt (thats me), some are nails, some are legs, some are arms, some are chests.

All the best to you and your family,
Matthew

My brother, I'm the biggest knucklehead on this forum. By God's grace I am saved. I spread the word because I belive it is good news for ALL men just as the Bible says.

Luke 2:10 ESV
10 And the angel said to them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for ALL the people.

 

[MatthewG]

My brother, I'm the biggest knucklehead on this forum. By God's grace I am saved. I spread the word because I belive it is good news for ALL men just as the Bible says.

Praise Yahava and his Son Yeshua.

 

[Nancy]

Amen. What good is it to perfectly understand God's word if we don't love one another?

Not a bit of good brother, not a bit.

 

[WalkInLight]

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I like this cartoon because it summarises the problem God came to solve. Man sends himself to the lake of fire. In one sense belief is not important, it is love that is important and how it works in our lives. This universe in which we live was founded by the creator and we are created in His image, desiring love but born alone and cut off from the source of that love. And this independence will kill us if we walk away and do not reach out and let Him set us free.

Unfortunately this setting free comes from seeing who He is, and knowing His love and reality. Equally you cannot feel and know the effect of who He is, without faith. One could believe in eternity with an infinite number of chances all men would bow the knee to the Lord. But His revelation is we must freely choose and follow, because it cannot be forced. This is the nature of who God is and how love works. If we choose darkness it will take the shadow of life we live away from us.

The reason why this love is more precious than gold because few make or understand its reality.

I have met many believers who know the words and theology and miss love transforming their hearts. They know their hearts are cold and conflicted but they convince themselves thats ok because they have faith and are forgiven. This cold faith gets angry at people who love and speak of purity and truth, because it condemns them and they feel judged, which they interpret as satan condemning them and making them feel guilt. Ironic, that conviction of sin could be turned into a work of the enemy and not acknowledged as the holiness of God coming close to them.. The great thing in Christ, is He waits and shines the light, waiting for those who seek, who ask and desire to know the reality.

God bless you

 

[Patrick1966]

Man sends himself to the lake of fire.

My brother, please remember Matthew 7:21-23.

 

[Patrick1966]

we must freely choose and follow, because it cannot be forced.

That is correct and that is the reason that Jesus is waiting in 1 Corinthians 15. Jesus is the good shepherd and the savior of ALL and will not stop until ALL choose to follow him! Why? Because God is love.

 

[Patrick1966]

Ironic, that conviction of sin could be turned into a work of the enemy and not acknowledged as the holiness of God coming close to them..

That's a great point my brother. Billy Graham said the closer we are to Christ the more we will feel our sin.

 

[Patrick1966]

The great thing in Christ, is He waits and shines the light, waiting for those who seek, who ask and desire to know the reality.

Amen brother, he WAITS for ALL!

 

[Hobie]

Saved from what?

Read what the Bible says, its clear...
Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I just gave you the scripture. People cannot follow Jesus unless God permits them to do so.

So you think God is not going to permit someone who wants to follow him to follow him?

What Kind of God do we got if that is true?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

But you believe that Jesus will permit billions of people to suffer horribly forever, right? That is a fascinating and yet mainstream theology.

No

I think he will allow people to suffer forever Because it is what they chose to do

He died for them, Stop trying to blame God For what the people do!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Is there a pure and blameless "church" out there? I think not. at. all.

Amen, there is no perfect church or denomination

 

[St. SteVen]

So you think God is not going to permit someone who wants to follow him to follow him?

The Bible says that no one can come to God unless the Spirit draws them.
Therefore, if they WANT to come to God, it's because the Spirit is drawing them.

What Kind of God do we got if that is true?

That's rich.
Do you believe in eternal conscious torment with no hope of escape?
"What Kind of God do we got if that is true?", as you ask.


@Patrick1966

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Bible says that no one can come to God unless the Spirit draws them.
Therefore, if they WANT to come to God, it's because the Spirit is drawing them.

The spirit was sent to the world to conflict if of sin righteousness and judgment.

That's rich.
Do you believe in eternal conscious torment with no hope of escape?
"What Kind of God do we got if that is true?", as you ask.


@Patrick1966

People keep trying to Blame God because people reject HIM, and send THEMSELVES to hell for all eternity

Are you going to attack God when you see him face to face with this nonsense?