Another Premillennial absurdity

[WPM]

It is nice for me to attend rapture believing churches as they show themselves as a more pure Christian congregation…

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. - 1 John 3:2-3

What do you mean by rapture - the catching away of the saints or a Pretrib rapture?

 

[rockytopva]

What do you mean by rapture - the catching away of the saints or a Pretrib rapture?

I mean hanging around an excited bunch of Christians anticipating the Lord Jesus's appearing as something that can occur at any day!

 

[WPM]

I mean hanging around an excited bunch of Christians anticipating the Lord Jesus's appearing as something that can occur at any day!

But you seem to always refer to Pretrib churches.

 

[rockytopva]

But you seem to always refer to Pretrib churches.

That is because I can feel the unction of the Holy Spirit in pre-trib churches... Which is a very big that!

 

[David in NJ]

That is because I can feel the unction of the Holy Spirit in pre-trib churches... Which is a very big that!

Christ's Second Coming is the TRUE HOPE for all who are waiting His Coming - AMEN

PURE Christianity is not based on hype but on PURE TRUTH = "Thy Word is Truth" - John ch17

That feeling you describe does not come from the Holy Spirit of Truth.

That comes from an emotional high thru false prophecy = pre-trib rapture which promises a false hope = JOYOUS EXCITEMENT

Here is the TRUE Holy Spirit HOPE = 1 Thess 1:10 , 4:13-18 , 2 Thess 2:1-17 , 1 John 3:1-3 , 1 Cor ch15 , Hebrews 9:28 , Revelation

"and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come."

Jesus said: pre-trib' rapture is a lie but His Love for us is the Real Hope = John 16:33

These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace.
In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

The OT Prophets, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles all forewarn of coming Tribulation and many antichrists BEFORE the Second Coming of Christ.
"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death
TRUE HOPE = "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death."

TODAY, True Saints around the world have this Great Hope in them as they literally face death every day for the Name of Christ.

Pray for your Brethren who suffer for the Glorious Name of Jesus Christ

Peace

 

[WPM]

That is because I can feel the unction of the Holy Spirit in pre-trib churches... Which is a very big that!

But they are not teaching the truth re the second coming. They are promoting a Jesuit doctrine that can be found nowhere in Holy Writ.

 

[rockytopva]

But they are not teaching the truth re the second coming. They are promoting a Jesuit doctrine that can be found nowhere in Holy Writ.

Well... Post something of your services so we can judge whether we have any life in there.

 

[WPM]

Well... Post something of your services so we can judge whether we have any life in there.

You are missing my point. You are making it sound like Pretribbers are the only ones who are getting it, which is nonsense. This is deception. They are deceived with false doctrine.

 

[rockytopva]

You are missing my point. You are making it sound like Pretribbers are the only ones who are getting it, which is nonsense. This is deception. They are deceived with false doctrine.

But... If I cannot sense the presence of the Holy Spirit in the services you attend I will give you up as nonsense and deception as well.

 

[WPM]

But... If I cannot sense the presence of the Holy Spirit in the services you attend I will give you up as nonsense and deception as well.

But God is there. LOL. I feel His presence in the services and His help when I speak. Are you the global expert on the presence of God? Does truth even matter to you or are you always governed by feelings and hype?

 

[rockytopva]

But God is there. LOL. I feel His presence in the services and His help when I speak. Are you the global expert on the presence of God? Does truth even matter to you or are you always governed by feelings and hype?

There is much wonderful spirituality in the rapture teaching churches I attend...

That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: - 1 Peter 1:7-8

Jesus Christ could come today... That thought alone fills me with a joy unspeakable and full of glory!

 

[WPM]

There is much wonderful spirituality in the rapture teaching churches I attend...

That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: - 1 Peter 1:7-8

Jesus Christ could come today... That thought alone fills me with a joy unspeakable and full of glory!

I am not telling you to not go there but you cannot base truth on the hype.

 

[jeffweeder]

I am not telling you to not go there but you cannot base truth on the hype.

Thats so true.

1 Paul, Silvanus (Silas), and Timothy,

To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: 2 Grace to you and peace [inner calm and spiritual well-being] from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 We ought always and indeed are morally obligated [as those in debt] to give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters, as is fitting, because your faith is growing ever greater, and the [unselfish]]love of each one of you toward one another is continually increasing.

4 Therefore, we speak of you with pride among the churches of God for your steadfastness [your unflinching endurance, and patience] and your firm faith in the midst of all the persecution and [crushing] distress which you endure.

5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His kingdom, for which indeed you are suffering.
6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with distress those who distress you, 7 and to give relief to you who are so distressed and to us as well when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 dealing out [full and complete] vengeance to those who do not [seek to] know God and to those who ignore and refuse to obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus [by choosing not to respond to Him].

 

[David in NJ]

But... If I cannot sense the presence of the Holy Spirit in the services you attend I will give you up as nonsense and deception as well.

Do not seek the presence of the Holy Spirit in walled buildings called churches = HE is not there.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness.

Pray to be Baptized in the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth = Read and Pray the Gospel of John

The Holy Spirit wants to indwell you in a Powerful Way which only comes from the Lord Jesus Christ thru faith in His word.

The Holy Spirit will open the Scriptures to you so that you need not man to teach you = HE will be your Guide.

This is the Blessing for every Believer in Christ when they are Baptized in the Holy Spirit = 1 John 2:20-21

"You, however, have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
I have not written to you because you lack knowledge of the truth, but because you have it, and because no lie comes from the truth. "

 

[rockytopva]

Just one moment with the Holy Spirit to me is worth the million dollars. I see above me a great sea of blessings proceeding from God the Father and wish it to flood my soul with its goodness!

 

[rockytopva]

I am not telling you to not go there but you cannot base truth on the hype.

The Holy Spirit is good for the soul and is called by Christ Jesus the comforter. It is the Holy Spirit's business to prepare Christ a purified pride...

And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. - 1 John 3:3
If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard... - Colossians 1:23
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. - 2 Timothy 4:8

What is the hope of the Gospel but in the appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ?

I think the Pharisee type, or even worse the Sadducee type (noting sad-you-see) as thinking they hold the truth but inside are ravening wolves seeking who they can condemn and devour with material they think, because they have been decades in the making, must be true.

 

[rockytopva]

Does anyone not pretrib actually have YouTube videos posted that are actually spiritual?

 

[WPM]

Does anyone not pretrib actually have YouTube videos posted that are actually spiritual?

YouTube videos are not everything. Try this: Sermons | Light of the World, GM

 

[covenantee]

There is much wonderful spirituality in the rapture teaching churches I attend...

What genuine "wonderful spirituality" can there be in a false ideology originating in the counter-Reformation of the apostate papacy?

It did not exist in the true Church before the 19th century.

Its plan and purpose was to defeat the Reformation. By God's grace and mercy, it failed.

It violates the identification in Jude 3:
"Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time handed down to the saints. NASB

Undoubtedly "wonderful spirituality" can also be found among the cults.

But Jude 3 cannot.

 

[rockytopva]

YouTube videos are not everything. Try this: Sermons | Light of the World, GM

My YouTube site is approaching 3.5 million views at over 15,000 subscribers. Hoping for that one rapture promoting video to go viral!

https://www.youtube.com/@rockytopva