Another Premillennial absurdity

[stormymonday]

Stop your avoidance! There's only one judgment day.

• Is there anywhere in Scripture that talks about "resurrection days" (plural)?
• Is there anywhere in Scripture that talks about "judgement days" (plural)?

I have no idea what in the world you're getting at. And YOU stop with the ridiculous accusations. There are too many of you around here.

 

[Taken]

No. I brought one text to the table so that you would not sidestep it, and alas, you did your usual, avoid that one text. That is your MO. You are deluded with Pretrib. You cannot accept multiple Scriptures because they expose your error. It is impossible to enlighten an indoctrinated mind that does not want to know unless the Holy Spirit shows you.

That one text exposes Pretrib. But it is one of many. You tripped up at the first hurdle, as i suspected. The Scriptures are the biggest enemy of your doctrine.

You quoted two verses from 1 Thes.
Then gave your commentary what those two verses mean to you.
Then you asked 3 questions.
I answered your 3 questions.

AND... you accuse side-stepping....LOL

You are obsessed with Pre-trib...yet you SAY that ONE text “exposes” Pre-trib.....which IS FUNNY, since “expose” means “reveals”....

This is HOW CONVOLUTED a conversation is with you....
You are desperately trying to preach against Pre-trib....while claiming your have EXPOSED.....actually revealed Pre-trib... lol

 

[WPM]

I have no idea what in the world you're getting at. And YOU stop with the ridiculous accusations. There are too many of you around here.

By your avoidance you are admitting you have zero texts that teach "resurrection days" (plural) and "judgement days" (plural). That is a Premil invention.Scripture teaches one physical resurrection day that sees one all-encompassing raising of mankind. However, within that one resurrection there are two distinct categories of rising embodied: (1) unto “life,” and (2) unto “damnation.” The Bible also only talks about “the day of judgment” or "the judgment" (singular) never “judgment days” (plural) or "the judgments" (plural). That is a Premillennialist invention.

 

[WPM]

You quoted two verses from 1 Thes.
Then gave your commentary what those two verses mean to you.
Then you asked 3 questions.
I answered your 3 questions.

AND... you accuse side-stepping....LOL

You are obsessed with Pre-trib...yet you SAY that ONE text “exposes” Pre-trib.....which IS FUNNY, since “expose” means “reveals”....

This is HOW CONVOLUTED a conversation is with you....
You are desperately trying to preach against Pre-trib....while claiming your have EXPOSED.....actually revealed Pre-trib... lol

You admitted you have nothing in Scripture to support your Pretrib error. Check mate!!! End of the debate. It is an extra-biblical man-made Jesuit doctrine you promote. The reality is: this 2-future-comings theory was invented by Emmanuel Lacunza (or Manuel de Lacunza y Diaz), a Chilean theologian of Spanish descent (born in Santiago, Chile, July 19, 1731, and died at Imola, Italy, June 17, 1801). He became a member of the Jesuit order in 1747 at the age of 16.

Lacunza wrote this book under the assumed name of Rabbi Ben-Ezra as a "converted Jew". The book was finished in 1790, and then circulated in manuscript form before it was published at Cadiz, Spain, in 1812. This was during the time of Cortez in Spain, and after Cortez the book was suppressed, and as much as possible withdrawn from circulation. Lacunza died in June 1801, before the book was ever published in book form.

Rev. Edward Irving, a Presbyter of the Church of Scotland, who had been the assistant to Dr. Chalmers in Glasgow, translated this book of Lacunza from the Spanish in 1826, and it was published in English by L.B. Seely and Son, Fleet Street, London, in 1827.

This is the origin of Pretrib. It is not in the Bible, as your avoidance has proved. You have zero biblical evidence, only speculations and theories.

 

[stormymonday]

By your avoidance you are admitting you have zero texts that teach "resurrection days" (plural) and "judgement days" (plural). That is a Premil invention.Scripture teaches one physical resurrection day that sees one all-encompassing raising of mankind. However, within that one resurrection there are two distinct categories of rising embodied: (1) unto “life,” and (2) unto “damnation.” The Bible also only talks about “the day of judgment” or "the judgment" (singular) never “judgment days” (plural) or "the judgments" (plural). That is a Premillennialist invention.

Are you sure you're not mistaking me for someone else?

 

[jeffweeder]

No - the judgment of nations - separation of sheep and goats is NOT the GWT or the Judgment seat of Christ. Since this happens after the resurrection and rapture, the sheep are those who realized that his return actually took place and therefore believed and accepted Jesus as king. They enter and populate the Millennium. The goats are the ones who reject him as king.

You avoided my simple question.

The whole discourse suggests otherwise. The goats are thrown into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
This is a clear reference to the GWT, when their names are not found mentioned in the book of life which is only opened at this judgment.

The sheep inherit what was prepared for them from the foundation of the world. Our inheritance is not temporary.


Rev 21
5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also He said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true [they are accurate, incorruptible, and trustworthy].” 6 And He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I will give [water] from the fountain of the water of life without cost.

7 He who overcomes [the world by adhering faithfully to Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior] will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. 8 But as for the cowards and unbelieving and abominable [who are devoid of character and personal integrity and practice or tolerate immorality], and murderers, and sorcerers [with intoxicating drugs], and idolaters and occultists [who practice and teach false religions], and all the liars [who knowingly deceive and twist truth], their part will be in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

 

[WPM]

Are you sure you're not mistaking me for someone else?

No. You are arguing that there will be several resurrection days and judgment days in the future, right?

 

[stormymonday]

You avoided my simple question.

The whole discourse suggests otherwise. The goats are thrown into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
This is a clear reference to the GWT, when their names are not found mentioned in the book of life which is only opened at this judgment.

The sheep inherit what was prepared for them from the foundation of the world. Our inheritance is not temporary.


Rev 21
5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also He said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true [they are accurate, incorruptible, and trustworthy].” 6 And He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I will give [water] from the fountain of the water of life without cost.

7 He who overcomes [the world by adhering faithfully to Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior] will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. 8 But as for the cowards and unbelieving and abominable [who are devoid of character and personal integrity and practice or tolerate immorality], and murderers, and sorcerers [with intoxicating drugs], and idolaters and occultists [who practice and teach false religions], and all the liars [who knowingly deceive and twist truth], their part will be in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Unfortunately for you - goats are not mentioned in the GWT. That Judgment occurs at the end of the Millenium. The judgment seat of Christ happens before.

The Sheep and Goats Judgment is the same as the Judgment of nations - that judgment determines who enters the Millenium

The Great White Throne judgment occurs at the end of the 1,000 years to judge those who lived during IT.

The Judgment Seat of Christ happens during the final 45-day period of the age toward the very end of tribulation. That judgment appears to determine our reward.

 

[stormymonday]

No. You are arguing that there will be several resurrection days and judgment days in the future, right?

I never said anything about resurrection days. You need to stop with the presumptions.

 

[WPM]

Unfortunately for you - goats are not mentioned in the GWT. That Judgment occurs at the end of the Millenium. The judgment seat of Christ happens before.

The Sheep and Goats Judgment is the same as the Judgment of nations - that judgment determines who enters the Millenium

The Great White Throne judgment occurs at the end of the 1,000 years to judge those who lived during IT.

The Judgment Seat of Christ happens during the final 45-day period of the age toward the very end of tribulation. That judgment appears to determine our reward.

There is only one judgment day. Rev 20 takes us back to the first resurrection of Jesus. There is only one reference to the GWT in Scripture . Jesus said in Matthew 12:41-42, “The men of Nineveh shall rise [Gr. anistemi] in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. The queen of the south shall rise up [Gr. egeiro] in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.”

The righteous Old Testament Gentile saint – the queen of the south – is raised at the same time as the wicked Pharisees of Christ’s day to stand before the same judgment seat of Christ.

This is further impressed in the parallel portion in Luke 11:31, only with an additional example, saying, “The queen of the south shall rise up [Gr. egeiro] in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. The men of Nineveh shall rise up [Gr. anistemi] in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.”

Here, the two main words used throughout the New Testament for resurrection are applied to the general resurrection that occurs on Judgment Day when the Old Testament time saints and wicked join the New Testament saints and wicked at the judgment. Remember the queen of the south and Nineveh are presented as Old Testament Gentile saints that will “rise up in the judgment with” the wicked unbelieving Jews of Christ’s day. There is no prolonged parenthesis period separating the resurrection of the wicked dead and the resurrection of the righteous dead. They both “rise up” at the same time. The Old Testament Gentile city of Nineveh is shown to “rise up in the judgment with” (or meta) the religious Jewish world of Christ’s day and “condemn it.” The Greek word meta (3326) is described in Strong’s concordance as “a primary preposition (often used adverbially); properly, denoting accompaniment; ‘amid’.”

Amillennialists therefore maintain that there is one general resurrection, of the just and unjust, at the second advent of Christ. The righteous then inherit the earth in an eternal state. Premils understanding of Revelation 20 conflict with numerous Scripture.

Jesus explains in John 5:28-29, “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

Please notice “the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth.” We are not just looking at the righteous, we are looking at both the righteous and the wicked. The passage goes on to confirm: “they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” All that are in the graves will come forth when He comes. The righteous will be ushered into His glorious kingdom, the wicked shall be damned for all eternity in the lake of fire.

The righteous and wicked dead all rise in response to the same sovereign voice - Christ's. Christ’s description of the resurrection depicts a unitary event, albeit in two parts. Part 1 is the elect; Part 2 is the wicked. Jesus explains in John 5:28-29, “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth.” Evidently there is only one resurrection albeit involving two separated aspects: “they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

There is no 1,000 years’ separation mentioned or hinted at in here.

There is one physical resurrection day in which there are two types of raising, (1) unto life, (2) unto damnation. Acts 24:15 says, “there shall be a resurrection of the dead (singular), both of the just and unjust.”

This verse speaks of a singular “resurrection of the dead” not multiple resurrections (plural) of the dead as the Premillennialist would try and intimate. The fact that Paul differentiates between the wicked and the righteous in no way proves that these are two separate resurrections coming at the end of two separate ages split by 1,000 years+ of history (filled with all the produce of the curse – sin, death and corruption). No, it simply demonstrates that there are two types of resurrection in the one final resurrection of the dead at the end. In fact, for Premils to insist on their concept is to force something into the passage that doesn’t truly exist. Scripture constantly distinguishes between the wicked and the righteous even though they are found participating in the same event at the same time. Why would anyone think it strange that the Holy Spirit would identify the two different parties that take part in the general “resurrection of the dead”? After all, it is a normal biblical procedure to distinguish between these two conflicting camps. Although to suggest that the identifying of these two distinct parties indicates two separate events at two separate times is illogical.

Once again, there is one physical resurrection day in which there are two types of raising, (1) unto life, (2) unto damnation.

 

[WPM]

I never said anything about resurrection days. You need to stop with the presumptions.

So, you believe in one final future general resurrection/judgment day (singular)?

 

[stormymonday]

There is only one judgment day. Rev 20 takes us back to the first resurrection of Jesus. There is only one reference to the GWT and you invent a whole false doctrine out of it. Jesus said in Matthew 12:41-42, “The men of Nineveh shall rise [Gr. anistemi] in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. The queen of the south shall rise up [Gr. egeiro] in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.”

The righteous Old Testament Gentile saint – the queen of the south – is raised at the same time as the wicked Pharisees of Christ’s day to stand before the same judgment seat of Christ.

This is further impressed in the parallel portion in Luke 11:31, only with an additional example, saying, “The queen of the south shall rise up [Gr. egeiro] in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. The men of Nineveh shall rise up [Gr. anistemi] in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.”

Here, the two main words used throughout the New Testament for resurrection are applied to the general resurrection that occurs on Judgment Day when the Old Testament time saints and wicked join the New Testament saints and wicked at the judgment. Remember the queen of the south and Nineveh are presented as Old Testament Gentile saints that will “rise up in the judgment with” the wicked unbelieving Jews of Christ’s day. There is no prolonged parenthesis period separating the resurrection of the wicked dead and the resurrection of the righteous dead. They both “rise up” at the same time. The Old Testament Gentile city of Nineveh is shown to “rise up in the judgment with” (or meta) the religious Jewish world of Christ’s day and “condemn it.” The Greek word meta (3326) is described in Strong’s concordance as “a primary preposition (often used adverbially); properly, denoting accompaniment; ‘amid’.”

Amillennialists therefore maintain that there is one general resurrection, of the just and unjust, at the second advent of Christ. The righteous then inherit the earth in an eternal state. Premils understanding of Revelation 20 conflict with numerous Scripture.

Jesus explains in John 5:28-29, “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

Please notice “the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth.” We are not just looking at the righteous, we are looking at both the righteous and the wicked. The passage goes on to confirm: “they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” All that are in the graves will come forth when He comes. The righteous will be ushered into His glorious kingdom, the wicked shall be damned for all eternity in the lake of fire.

The righteous and wicked dead all rise in response to the same sovereign voice - Christ's. Christ’s description of the resurrection depicts a unitary event, albeit in two parts. Part 1 is the elect; Part 2 is the wicked. Jesus explains in John 5:28-29, “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth.” Evidently there is only one resurrection albeit involving two separated aspects: “they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

There is no 1,000 years’ separation mentioned or hinted at in here.

There is one physical resurrection day in which there are two types of raising, (1) unto life, (2) unto damnation. Acts 24:15 says, “there shall be a resurrection of the dead (singular), both of the just and unjust.”

This verse speaks of a singular “resurrection of the dead” not multiple resurrections (plural) of the dead as the Premillennialist would try and intimate. The fact that Paul differentiates between the wicked and the righteous in no way proves that these are two separate resurrections coming at the end of two separate ages split by 1,000 years+ of history (filled with all the produce of the curse – sin, death and corruption). No, it simply demonstrates that there are two types of resurrection in the one final resurrection of the dead at the end. In fact, for Premils to insist on their concept is to force something into the passage that doesn’t truly exist. Scripture constantly distinguishes between the wicked and the righteous even though they are found participating in the same event at the same time. Why would anyone think it strange that the Holy Spirit would identify the two different parties that take part in the general “resurrection of the dead”? After all, it is a normal biblical procedure to distinguish between these two conflicting camps. Although to suggest that the identifying of these two distinct parties indicates two separate events at two separate times is illogical.

Once again, there is one physical resurrection day in which there are two types of raising, (1) unto life, (2) unto damnation.

See you later big guy. Now you're accusing me of inventing crap. I have no use for people like you.

Ignore!!!

 

[WPM]

See you later big guy. Now you're accusing me of inventing crap. I have no use for people like you.

Ignore!!!

Not so! Can you not answer a simple question? Why are you so easily offended?

 

[Taken]

Are you sure you're not mistaking me for someone else?

Anyone that does not agree with him, he gaslights with juvenile tactics.

 

[stormymonday]

Anyone that does not agree with him, he gaslights with juvenile tactics.

I'm just tired of all the accusations around here. They're endless. I really had no clue where he was coming from and appeared he was looking for an argument.

 

[Taken]

You admitted you have nothing in Scripture to support your Pretrib error.

False Accuser.

Check mate!!!

Not yet. You still have Wrath and Tribulation on your schedule.

End of the debate.

Okay...

It is an extra-biblical man-made Jesuit doctrine you promote. The reality is: this 2-future-comings theory was invented by Emmanuel Lacunza (or Manuel de Lacunza y Diaz), a Chilean theologian of Spanish descent (born in Santiago, Chile, July 19, 1731, and died at Imola, Italy, June 17, 1801). He became a member of the Jesuit order in 1747 at the age of 16.

Lacunza wrote this book under the assumed name of Rabbi Ben-Ezra as a "converted Jew". The book was finished in 1790, and then circulated in manuscript form before it was published at Cadiz, Spain, in 1812. This was during the time of Cortez in Spain, and after Cortez the book was suppressed, and as much as possible withdrawn from circulation. Lacunza died in June 1801, before the book was ever published in book form.

Rev. Edward Irving, a Presbyter of the Church of Scotland, who had been the assistant to Dr. Chalmers in Glasgow, translated this book of Lacunza from the Spanish in 1826, and it was published in English by L.B. Seely and Son, Fleet Street, London, in 1827.

This is the origin of Pretrib. It is not in the Bible, as your avoidance has proved. You have zero biblical evidence, only speculations and theories.

LOL...you say end of debate, yet you continue blathering about some irrelevant books as your verification you are appointed to Wrath and Gods Tribulation.

I agree with you, you are appointed to Wrath and Gods End of Days Tribulation.

I agree with the Lord, I am not appointed to Wrath or Gods End of Days Tribulation, as verified in Scripture.

* Applies to me....and agree with you...does not apply to you. ——>
1 Thes 5:
[9a] For God hath not appointed us (me IN Christ) to wrath..

* Does not Apply to me....and agree with you...does apply to you. ——>
Rom 1:
[18a] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men...

* Applies to me, if my body is dead...and agree with you...does not apply to you->
1 Thes 4:
[16b] the dead in Christ (me, not you) shall rise first:


* Applies to me, if my body is alive...and agree with you...does not apply to you—->
1 Thes 4:
[17a] Then we (me, not you) which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

* Does not Apply to me....and agree with you...does apply to you—->
Seals Tribulation;
Rev 6:
[16b] ... the wrath of the Lamb:

* Does not Apply to me....and agree with you....does apply to you—>
Trumps Tribulation;
Rev 12:
[12b]....Woe to the inhabiters of the earth
[12c] ....for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath,

* Does not Apply to me....and agree with you...does apply to you——>
Vials Tribulation;
Rev 15:
[7b] ...seven golden vials full of the wrath of God...


Not a Big MYSTERY....
In the Last Days....inhabitants of the Earth (which I agree with you, IS you),
7 Seals shall be opened...
7 Trumps shall be sounded...
7 Vials shall be poured out...
The Lamb, the devil, God each have End of days WRATH for the inhabitants of the Earth. (and I agree with you, that applies to you).

Because “I” am “made WHOLE” IN” Christ; MY APPOINTMENT, is WITH the Lord, ABOVE the face of the Earth in the CLOUDS, already DELIVERED FROM the WRATH to COME UPON THE EARTH...
1 Thes 1:
[10b]....Jesus, which delivered us (speaking for me, NOT you) from the wrath to come.

(while agreeing with you, your appointment is ON the face of the Earth, enjoying every delivery of Wrath...of the Lamb, of the Devil, of God).

I.....(and I agree with you, this does not apply to you) I shall WAIT above the face of the Earth, IN the Clouds WITH the Lord....FOR;
1 Thes 1:
[10] ....wait for his Son from heaven...

** Any Serious student of Scripture made Whole “IN” Christ, can have Biblical conversations WITH OTHERS “IN” Christ using general TERMS...
Converted Whole, End of days Tribulations, Wrath, Plagues, Rapture, Clouds, Christ’s Kingdom, Judgements, Destruction, Renewal...and BE on the SAME page, SAME path, SAME understanding...
** And Quickly recognize OTHERS, who ATTEMPT to use the Lords NAME, to STAND AGAINST the Lord God...

Matt 7:
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

** and STAND AGAINST THOSE who STAND WITH the Lord God.

Rom 1:
[31a] Without understanding...
[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

We are IN AGREEMENT, that which APPLIES to me, “IN” Christ...
DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU.

Your whining, accusations, gaslighting, IS MOOT.

 

[Taken]

I'm just tired of all the accusations around here. They're endless. I really had no clue where he was coming from and appeared he was looking for an argument.

Not a big mystery.
The threads he starts (several which moderators have closed)... are expressly to stand against those IN Christ. His MO, is speak FOR others, THEN attack, with false accusations, lies, what he has SAID FOR THEM.
Typical gaslighter.
It is Beneficial for a person IN Christ to KNOW who his Brethren Are and Are Not.

Secular society, preaches using Gods name in vain, means using Gods name along with what secular society says is a cuss word.

Scripturally, using Gods name in vain, is using Gods name as a pretext to Stand Against Gods teachings.
In other words, using Gods name, and the individual taking credit for what Gods power accomplishes.
Matt. 7:30-31 (we, we, we, taking the credit).

Perspective. Many are called, few are chosen. Good to know, who’s who. :)

God Bless,
Taken

 

[WPM]

I'm just tired of all the accusations around here. They're endless. I really had no clue where he was coming from and appeared he was looking for an argument.

I asked you 2 simple questions which you took issue with:

• Is there anywhere in Scripture that talks about "resurrection days" (plural)?
• Is there anywhere in Scripture that talks about "judgement days" (plural)?

 

[jeffweeder]

Unfortunately for you - goats are not mentioned in the GWT. That Judgment occurs at the end of the Millenium. The judgment seat of Christ happens before.

The Sheep and Goats Judgment is the same as the Judgment of nations - that judgment determines who enters the Millenium

The Great White Throne judgment occurs at the end of the 1,000 years to judge those who lived during IT.

The Judgment Seat of Christ happens during the final 45-day period of the age toward the very end of tribulation. That judgment appears to determine our reward.

Goats do not need to be mentioned. God has fixed a day for judgment of the living and the dead.

Act 17
30 Therefore God overlooked and disregarded the former ages of ignorance; but now He commands all people everywhere to repent [that is, to change their old way of thinking, to regret their past sins, and to seek God’s purpose for their lives], 31 because He has set a day when He will judge the inhabited world in righteousness by a Man whom He has appointed and destined for that task, and He has provided credible proof to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

Acts 10:42
He commanded us to preach to the people [both Jew and Gentile], and to solemnly testify that He is the One who has been appointed and ordained by God as Judge of the living and the dead.

2 Timothy 4:1
I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing

1 Peter 4:5
But they will [have to] give an account to Him who is ready to judge and pass sentence on the living and the dead.

.
The book of life is only opened at the GWT and that's the time for throwing into the eternal fire.

 

[WPM]

Not a big mystery.
The threads he starts (several which moderators have closed)... are expressly to stand against those IN Christ. His MO, is speak FOR others, THEN attack, with false accusations, lies, what he has SAID FOR THEM.
Typical gaslighter.
It is Beneficial for a person IN Christ to KNOW who his Brethren Are and Are Not.

Secular society, preaches using Gods name in vain, means using Gods name along with what secular society says is a cuss word.

Scripturally, using Gods name in vain, is using Gods name as a pretext to Stand Against Gods teachings.
In other words, using Gods name, and the individual taking credit for what Gods power accomplishes.
Matt. 7:30-31 (we, we, we, taking the credit).

Perspective. Many are called, few are chosen. Good to know, who’s who. :)

God Bless,
Taken

What are you talking about? Most of the threads I have started are alive and active. One was closed after 100,000 visits. It was closed after Premils began to derail it with ad hominem.

You are obviously desperate to move the conversation away from the Scriptures. That is because the Book exposes your beliefs. You seem to enjoy getting into the gutter and hurling ad hominem. That is not where I am comfortable. I have no difficulty calling out your beliefs and mode of interpretation, but you think you have the right to question the salvation of Amils, just because they disagree with you. Keep your venom to yourself. I am not interested.

You allege:

you are appointed to Wrath and Gods End of Days Tribulation.

I was suspect....however... Always good to know straight out, who is and is not my brother IN Christ.

Many are called, few are chosen. Good to know, who’s who.

Who do you think you are - God? As i have said before: agreeing with you is now the litmus test to being a child of God. That is ridiculous! You are so full of yourself. It is pointless engaging with you.