22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

[Truth7t7]

Perhaps you're as bad as PM--I don't know. You seem to have adopted his arrogant spirit, and insulting style. I do hope you'll do what PM has failed to do, which is be a Christian brother and treat Christian brothers accordingly, regardless of these minor differences?

Randy I'm talking to you as a Christian who is in error, your Zionist Kingdom on earth for 1,000 years doesn't exist as you falsely claim

No arrogance or insults, just the truth as I see it

It appears that when you have been defeated in discussion, you resort to these false accusations, in complete distraction from the topic at hand

I been posting with you for about a year now, and it appears you have no inclination on changing your teachings regarding the fairy tale Zionist Kingdom on this earth, as Pinocchio's nose grows

Randy you continue to post your Zionist fairy tales, I will continue to expose them, it's that simple

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Taken]

Not quite the same mindset paul once had . His message was let their be NO , ZERO , as in none , divisions among you .

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Among “you” is in regard to Believers, Followers and the Converted.
And somewhere about 100 years after Johns death......Ha..
The Jews were back in their Synagogs, not preaching Christ Jesus, the Gentiles were building Churches, naming their Churches Catholic and the congregants, called Catholics, appointing their own holy father, creating rituals, putting statues in the Churches and not long after that the raising up of Mary statues and exalting her...pretty equal with Christ Jesus...

We are still divided.

 

[Taken]

Randy I'm talking to you as a Christian who is in error, your Zionist Kingdom on earth for 1,000 years doesn't exist as you falsely claim

No arrogance or insults, just the truth as I see it

It appears that when you have been defeated in discussion, you resort to these false accusations, in complete distraction from the topic at hand

I been posting with you for about a year now, and it appears you have no inclination on changing your teachings regarding the fairy tale Zionist Kingdom on this earth, as Pinocchio's nose grows

Randy you continue to post your Zionist fairy tales, I will continue to expose them, it's that simple

Jesus Is The Lord

Look, you post your truth as you believe, and so do others.
People disagree with your view...and You disagree with others views.
Difference is, you don’t only disagree, your manners are rude, crude, snarky, contemptuous, taunting, disrespectful and ignorant.

No arrogance or insults

Pffff Lie.

 

[WPM]

Look, you post your truth as you believe, and so do others.
People disagree with your view...and You disagree with others views.
Difference is, you don’t only disagree, your manners are rude, crude, snarky, contemptuous, taunting, disrespectful and ignorant.



Pffff Lie.

Why are Premils so mean on this board, and obsessed with victimhood and ad hominem? Can they simply not keep to the issues? Obviously, it is because they have no answer to the truth. Basically, if you cannot attack the message, attack the messenger. It must be the outworking of frustration. Notwithstanding, it starts to get old after a while.

 

[Taken]

Why are Premils so mean on this board, and obsessed with victimhood and ad hominem? Can they simply not keep to the issues? Obviously, it is because they have no answer to the truth. Basically, if you cannot attack the message, attack the messenger. It must be the outworking of frustration. Notwithstanding, it starts to get old after a while.

You should read your own posts maybe you would figure out the door doesn’t swing one way.

 

[WPM]

You should read your own posts maybe you would figure out the door doesn’t swing one way.

It is my aim to engage in the issues. I see that with most Amils on this board. Premils here seem to love wallowing in the muck.

 

[Taken]

It is my aim to engage in the issues. I see that with most Amils on this board. Premils here seem to love wallowing in the muck.

For a bit, but then some people are not able to simply disagree, they have to pour on the muck, as is well observed on this thread.

 

[WPM]

For a bit, but then some people are not able to simply disagree, they have to pour on the muck, as is well observed on this thread.

You have no answer to the Op, so you transpire to derail and throw ad hominem. This is why Premil is crumbling everywhere one looks. They have no answer to the truth today.

 

[Truth7t7]

Difference is, you don’t only disagree, your manners are rude, crude, snarky, contemptuous, taunting, disrespectful and ignorant.



Pffff Lie.

False claims from a poster that has been silenced on the false claims of a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth

In a corner of defeat, last resort false personal attacks, because you surely can't prove your kingdom in scripture, because it doesn't exist

 

[WPM]

False claims from a poster that has been silenced on the false claims of a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth

In a corner of defeat, last resort false personal attacks, because you surely can't prove your kingdom in scripture, because it doesn't exist

Exactly bro!

 

[Taken]

You have no answer to the Op, so you transpire to derail and throw ad hominem. This is why Premil is crumbling everywhere one looks. They have no answer to the truth today.

False claims from a poster that has been silenced on the false claims of a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth

In a corner of defeat, last resort false personal attacks, because you surely can't prove your kingdom in scripture, because it doesn't exist

AND POINT ON...Nothing of interest or value. Same old snarky, rude, disrespectful, arrogant, muck!

Still laughing, you guys thinking you are a gem to be followed as a foot soldier for Christ. Nah!

 

[jeffweeder]

Why?



You request I show you the Lord Jesus’ own Word, then present Paul’s teaching “according to” the Lords own Word...



Shouldn’t be too hard for you to find, IF you desire and apply yourself.
If you don’t own a Bible, get one.
If you can’t read, get a Bible on disc for someone to read to you.
If wondering about this forum, there are plenty of threads on this forum, About the Lords deliverance FROM Gods Wrath, Who it applies to and Why, as well as;
The Lord God Almighty’s omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresence in the Last Days of The Lord God Almighty Separating the Divided with Him From the Divided without Him, and the End of manKINDS mortality and End of evil spirits intrusion.



While you’re at it you seek what you desire to find!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Truth7t7]

Let's say that a castle contains 100 rooms. And let's say I seriously damage every room in that castle. I could then say "the entire castle has been seriously damaged," and still not imply that the entire castle has been destroyed.

When talking about armies all across the earth, or large cities all across the earth, being destroyed, it doesn't mean that entire populations are extinguished, that the structures are completely razed, nor that none of those places exist at all any longer.

It just means that everywhere, each local area has been devastated. And since it is all across the planet, it is described in universal terms, not at all meaning the planet goes away. As I said, the Bible says that the earth is everlasting.

When Christ comes again, a battle will take place, which may very well be a major nuclear war. Entire cities across the globe would then be ruined, though the populations on earth would continue to exist. The elements would melt, and people in those cities would cry out that the sky is engulfed in smoke, making the heavens seem to disappear across the entire sky.

Biblical language does not express things in modern scientific terms, but in its own way of describing things, which is from the perspective of a person standing on the earth and looking up. He is not contemplating the earth as a globe. When he says it is destroyed, he is talking about a major civilization being extinguished, and not all the people in it.

Randy your claims of "Localized" destruction leaving surviving mortals behind is a sci-fi fairy tale found no place in scripture, the two mentions of scripture below silences your false claims

Randy it's amazing how far your denial of biblical truth will go, simple, clear, and before your eyes!

"The Fire Shall Try Every Man's Work"!

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

"The World And "ALL" That Dwell Therein!

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

 

[WPM]

Randy your claims of "Localized" destruction leaving surviving mortals behind is a sci-fi fairy tale found no place in scripture, the two mentions of scripture below silences your false claims

Randy it's amazing how far your denial of biblical truth will go, simple, clear, and before your eyes!

"The Fire Shall Try Every Man's Work"!

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

"The World And "ALL" That Dwell Therein!

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Multiple passages like this reveal to the reader who the real literalists and the spiritualists are.

 

[Keraz]

How is Revelation 19 the battle of Armageddon when the term Armageddon isn't even mentioned?

Revelation 16:14 says Armageddon will happen on the Great Day of the Sovereign Lord. That will be the glorious Return, as described in Revelation 19:11-21.
They are the same event; there isn't two battles like that when Jesus Returns - at the Seventh Bowl. As Rev 16:17 says; It is over!

 

[Truth7t7]

Multiple passages like this reveal to the reader who the real literalists and the spiritualists are.

Paul they have a desired Zionist fairy tale dream of a 1,000 year Kingdom on earth, they completely disregard scripture to maintain their dreams and belief "Self Serving" not scriptural truth

It's my opinion they know they are wrong, but it's like the African monkey grabbing the shiny object inside a hallowed out gord used by the hunter, once they grab the shiny object, they won't let it go, as the clinched fist can't be removed through the small entrance hole into the hallowed gord, if the monkey let's the object go "he's free"!

 

[WPM]

Revelation 16:14 says Armageddon will happen on the Great Day of the Sovereign Lord. That will be the glorious Return, as described in Revelation 19:11-21.
They are the same event; there isn't two battles like that when Jesus Returns - at the Seventh Bowl. As Rev 16:17 says; It is over!

Yes, the same battle described at the end of Rev 20. These are parallel passages, they reveal recaps.

 

[Marty fox]

Revelation 16:14 says Armageddon will happen on the Great Day of the Sovereign Lord. That will be the glorious Return, as described in Revelation 19:11-21.
They are the same event; there isn't two battles like that when Jesus Returns - at the Seventh Bowl. As Rev 16:17 says; It is over!

But as the bible says revelation 16 is the destruction of Babylon the great by the beast and revelation 19 is the defeat of the beast by Jesus. Two completely different battles with two completely different outcomes. Revelation 19 doesn’t even mention Armageddon and revelation 16 doesn’t mention Jesus.

Do you really think that there would be a battle won by Jesus in the bible and the bible wouldn’t mention Jesus winning it?

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, the same battle described at the end of Rev 20. These are parallel passages, they reveal recaps.

I fully agree, Revelation Chapter 16, 19, 20, same battle before the second coming in "Parallel Teachings"

Millennialist falsely claim the book of Revelation is chronological, specifically to create a time slot for their false 1,000 year kingdom on earth, between false claims of two completely different battles 1,000 years apart (A Lie)!

 

[Truth7t7]

But as the bible says revelation 16 is the destruction of Babylon the great by the beast and revelation 19 is the defeat of the beast by Jesus. Two completely different battles with two completely different outcomes. Revelation 19 doesn’t even mention Armageddon and revelation 16 doesn’t mention Jesus.

Revelation 16:17 seen below is (The End) there isn't time on earth beyond the words (It Is Done)

The 7th Trump & 7th Vial are "Parallel Teachings" of (The End)

Revelation 16:17KJV
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.