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My point being. I don't care if you worry about me. But I do care for people's feelings when they get hurt and so leave the argument and start getting personal.
Sometimes, we just need to take a step back and consider what is being said:
Maybe sometime you might read your posts as though written by another.
Furthermore, scholars have claimed that Jesus is on every page of the Bible. (Michael btw is on 5 pages).
Yes, I do, and it is appropriate. But not in the way that you assume. It is appropriate however to speak in those same terms regarding a project and the person and enterprise known as Christ. But this is like that hard saying "unless you eat of My flesh and drink of My blood." Nonetheless, these things are true--such was the case also for drinking the cup of wrath...a term that fits but is not literally a cup as it was called. This is true of all that is in the world, all that is only created according to His likeness. Likewise if you yourself told a true story in pictures of yourself doing a great thing and referred to the main character as your son (because you created him) and gave him a name above every other character, and that character called you his father...it would all be true in that you created it regarding what was True...which you might also call
It even goes so far as to say that the trinity is a Catholic faith. It tells a rational person all they need to know about the trinity doctrine being a fortress of falsehood that is protected by an even bigger falsehood that people are required to submit to themselves to the Catholic's ecclesiastical authority in order to be considered Christians.
I hear you. "Son of God" is not the same thing as "God the Son." "Son of God" can be found over 30 times in the scriptures. To find "God the Son" one must refer to the Athenasian Creed or one of it's devilish cousins.
If that is true, I am neither a trinitarian nor a non-trinitarian. So what would I be then?
I can't remember enough of your posts to say confidently, but I'm betting you're a trinitarian that doesn't want to accept that the jesus of the trinity is an idol.
Since you already replied as a book, of how one is a heretic, I have one question, in regards to KJV John 14[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.There are no rank heretics, only heretics. And only heretics burn dissenters.
There is also man's philosophy rather than doctrine of Christ: The oneness of Scripture is of perfect unity, not being one person alone, whether it was the army of Israel being as one man In Judges, or is the Father, the Son, and the body of Christ in John 17.
You see, dismissing a heretic in Scripture is for a reason: it simply means to try once or twice to correct someone with sound reading of Scripture, and if they refuse, then leave them alone to themselves:
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
You're not a heretic because you worship your own jehovah rather than Jesus Christ. You're a heretic, because you mishandle Scripture on purpose in order to worship your own jehovah rather than Jesus Christ.
Idolatry is simply the natural end of all heretics that repent not.
You see, your true oneness of God is not Scriptural, and so you're not worshipping the one true God, Who is both the Father and the Son:
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The name of Yehovah never appears in Scripture as LORD after Malachi. Only the name of Jesus, which is now above every name ever named by God and man.
The Lord Jesus on earth was the Father's servant. Not Yehovah's. You see once again, how as a heretic you purposely mishandle Scripture in order to continue in your idolatry?
I've learned something about the real root of all fringe heretics: knowledge pride. They really think they are special, because they imagine they have hit upon some really great and deep dark secret, that the average reading schlub needs desperately to be informed of. And so they go out of your away like all proselytizers to publish their too obvious twisting of Scripture to do it.
I.e. the only thing rank about you, is your grade-school level ignorance of the Book, being trumpeted as something really ingenious and unique: you insult the intelligence of the average reader that comprehends what is plainly written.
And so, it's not so much your heresy and idolatry that is offensive to man (you an answer to the Lamb for that), but it's the rank stupidity of your teaching. I mean, once someone tries to say the Word was not God, when the Book plainly says the Word was God, we know we are not dealing with a serious person, but only a clown who can't even get his face painted right.
Scripture of course declares He sends the Holy Spirit, Spirit of truth, and Comforter to His people.
Being an heretic is one thing, but you could at least not be so obvious about it.
The gift of the Holy Spirit is power to become sons of God:
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Case in point: God is not His law. God is not the law. God is the Word, Who is the Lawgiver.
And so, the KING of KINGS and the LORD of LORDS is Jesus Christ, who named Himself Yehovah, before coming down from heaven by commandment of the Father to become the Son named Jesus.
As I said: special knowledge pride. Really really high up there stuff.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
And then you go from proclaiming yourself really high up there, back down to your grade-school level snickering at what you do not understand.
In the end, your idolatry is simply cover for your unrenewed carnal mind, that is blind to the true things of God simply written in Scripture.
And like all such childish little snickerers, you need to degrade the intelligence of others, in order to think so highly of yourself.
In Scripture, it's called 'jesting': accusations under the cover of joking mockery.
The true God Yehovah obeyed the commandment of the Father to be made flesh on earth, and by faith through the eternal Spirit offered Himself upon the cross, and when it was finished, He became the quickening Spirit for man's rebirth and resurrection, and departed from His own mortal body to preach to the spirits in prison, and with all power resurrected His dead body from the grave, and ascended to return to the Father and sit on their throne together at His right hand.
They both now sit on the same throne side by side: the Father on the left, and the Son on the right, Which in turn places the Son in position of authority on the throne, Having taken upon Himself the form of a servant on earth, now He is exalted high above all authority and power on the throne of God with His Father.
Simple.
Perfect! I have been saying that the jehovah idolators were making Jesus into just another new pagan hero cult! He's the new Herakles deified to be with the gods, after having lived such a heroic life on earth, having been born of the King of Gods Father Zeus!
Thanks much for confirming that. You are not just an idolator, but a pagan one: your jehovah is not the cult afterall, but Jesus is!
You idolize your Zeus-jehovah, while cult worshipping his son Herakles-christ!
And so, it was your forefathers of pagan Greece and Rome that burned the heretic Christians for rejecting the gods, and declaring Jesus to be Son and God.
You, of course, have not their spunk. You just like to idolaize yourself really smart.
Grave consequences: I always think it's cute when people like you try to dignify your heresy with 'grave' words, to show how really really sincere and grave you are about it. Really really cute.
Jesus is not made God. Making Jesus not God and a god is pagan hero worship.
This makes no sense, but obviously comes from an offended pagan's hurt feelings. So now Judas was the one sent by your jehovah? Actually, that makes perfect sense.
Judas Iscariot is son of jehovah-Zeus.
In any case, when speaking of your god jehovah, speak for yourself. There is no 'we' here. It's always the same with every proselytizer wanting to compel a 'we' into everything, as though by the mere word it would make others agree they are already part of it.
Not only are you an idolator, but also a pagan one, as well as a rank amateur of boorish knowledge and silly psychology.
And remember, it has nothing to do with neighborliness, which many pagans of history were quite neighborly. I just get quickly fed up with having my intelligence insulted by preening children playing stupid games with Scripture:
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts.
No. I believe:
No trinity is a great start, but are you aware the rest is a Word of Faith cult teaching that is not at all Biblical?
Not sure. I'd have to look back into it and see.Rich R said:
