How to avoid the mark of the Beast.

[James Macbeth]

In the same way, in the time of Antichrist, the Sun of justice will be obscured by the interposition of temporal goods and the wealth which Antichrist will bestow on the world, inasmuch as the brightness of faith in Jesus Christ and the glow of good lives will no longer shine among Christians.

For, lest they should lose their dominion, temporal rulers, kings and princes will range themselves on the side of Antichrist.

In like manner, prelates for fear of losing their dignities, and religious and priests to gain honors and riches, will forsake the Faith of Christ and adhere to Antichrist.

Now he will be a veritable man, but so proud that, not only will he desire to have universal dominion in the whole world, but will even demand to be called a god, and will insist on receiving divine worship.

Next, signs in the moon.

“In the Holy Scripture the moon signifies our holy Mother the Universal Church, which implies the worldwide union of Christians.”

Reflecting the moon’s phases, the Church in the last phase “no longer in the state in which Christ founded it,” but “turned round to pride, pomp and vanity...

mercy and liberality are changed into simony, usury and rapine;

chastity becomes licentiousness, uncleanness and corruption;

the brightness of virtue is changed into envy and malignity;

temperance has become gluttony and voracity;

patience has given place to anger, war and divisions among the peoples;

diligence is superseded by negligence.”

 

[BarneyFife]

Those whose Faith rests on reason will lose it when they hear the specious reasoning of the Anti-christ.

If you cannot explain it to a child, then the Anti-christ will tick you with intellectual arguments.

You will end up taking the Mark.

I have proven how weak your will is, at first you said the Apostles Creed was garage, and now you believe and recite the whole thing.

My reasoning is nothing compared to the Anti-christ.

You will be on the right hand side of the Anti-christ.

Now let this be a general warning to you.

Your pride will be your down fall.

Humble yourself as a little child.

Only these with simple obedience to the Faith will be able to endure the onslaught of the Anti-christ.

Have have been warned.

You really ought to get over yourself, Sonny.

There's not a single thing in the apostle's creed that will protect anyone from taking the mark of the beast.

 

[James Macbeth]

In the same way, in the time of Antichrist, the Sun of justice will be obscured by the interposition of temporal goods and the wealth which Antichrist will bestow on the world, inasmuch as the brightness of faith in Jesus Christ and the glow of good lives will no longer shine among Christians.

For, lest they should lose their dominion, temporal rulers, kings and princes will range themselves on the side of Antichrist.

In like manner, prelates for fear of losing their dignities, and religious and priests to gain honors and riches, will forsake the Faith of Christ and adhere to Antichrist.

Now he will be a veritable man, but so proud that, not only will he desire to have universal dominion in the whole world, but will even demand to be called a god, and will insist on receiving divine worship.

Next, signs in the moon.

“In the Holy Scripture the moon signifies our holy Mother the Universal Church, which implies the worldwide union of Christians.”

Reflecting the moon’s phases, the Church in the last phase “no longer in the state in which Christ founded it,” but “turned round to pride, pomp and vanity...

mercy and liberality are changed into simony, usury and rapine;

chastity becomes licentiousness, uncleanness and corruption;

the brightness of virtue is changed into envy and malignity;

temperance has become gluttony and voracity;

patience has given place to anger, war and divisions among the peoples;

diligence is superseded by negligence.”

You really ought to get over yourself, Sonny.

There's not a single thing in the apostle's creed that will protect anyone from taking the mark of the beast.

If you were changed and became like a little child, then the simple obedience of the Faith would endure the might of the Anti-christ.

Already you are preparing your forehead for the mark of the beast.

Already you are submitting to the Anti-christ.

Let this be a general warning to you, learn the basics of the Faith.

Which are contained in the Apostles Creed.

 

[Marty fox]

That is good.

But our Lord adds that Peter is the bedrock of his Church.

Note our Lord does not say foundation or cornerstone.

It is possible to have more than one role.

Thanks but only Jesus can be the rock that the church is built on because of who Jesus is and what He did. Jesus is God and brought salvation and taught us how to live that is the message that the church was built on.

Peter was a sinner saved by grace through faith through Jesus just like the rest of us.

 

[Timtofly]

You confound yourself with your own words.

Jesus is the Foundation & the Cornerstone placed upon bedrock.

Peter = bedrock(πέτρᾳ).
Jesus = Cornerstone(ἀκρογωνιαῖον) + foundation(θεμέλιον).
Other Christians = living stones (λίθοι).

Peter is below Jesus...

Ask any builder, where is the best place to build...bedrock!

Recite the Apostles Creed, Morning & Evening, as a defense against errors in the Faith (which you clearly do not possess).

You have been warned.

Now you are saying the Cross is founded upon Peter.

That Peter is the only means of Salvation. I think you have been deceived by Satan more than those who accept evolution.

 

[James Macbeth]

Thanks but only Jesus can be the rock that the church is built on because of who Jesus is and what He did. Jesus is God and brought salvation and taught us how to live that is the message that the church was built on.

Peter was a sinner saved by grace through faith through Jesus just like the rest of us.

So Jesus renames Simon Bar-Jonah to rock, and then says and upon myself I will build my Church, because you are a sinner...

The mental gymnastics that you perform are absolutely amazing!

Upon that which he said Peter was, will he build his Church: and therefore by most l evident sequel he foundeth his Church upon Peter.

And the Adversaries wrangling against his, do against their own conscience and knowledge: specially seeing they know and confess that in Christ’s words speaking in the Syriac tongue, there was not difference at all between Petrus and Petra: yea and that the Greek words also though differing in termination, yet signify one thing, to wit, a
rock, or stone, as themselves also translate it.

John 1:42 So that they which profess to follow the Hebrew or Syriac and the Greek, and to translate immediately out of them into Latin or English, should if they had dealt sincerely, have thus turned Christ’s words, Thou art a rock, and upon this rock: or, Thou art Peter, and upon this peter will I build my Church: For so Christ spake by their own confession without any difference.

Which doth expressly stop these of all their vain evasions, that Petrus the former word is referred to the Apostle: and petra the later word, either to Christ only, or to Peter’s faith only.

In neither the said original tongues bearing it, nor the sequel of the words, upon this, suffering any relation in the world but to that which was spoken of in the same sentence next before: neither the words following which are directly addressed to Peter’s person, not Christ’s intention by any means admitting it, which was not to make himself or to promise himself to be the head or foundation of the Church.

 

[James Macbeth]

Now you are saying the Cross is founded upon Peter.

That Peter is the only means of Salvation. I think you have been deceived by Satan more than those who accept evolution.

You must be hearing voices in your head, as usual, making stuff up, never sticking to a subject.

 

[Timtofly]

You must be hearing voices in your head, as usual, making stuff up, never sticking to a subject.

You left out the verses that come before:

"He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven."

The church was built on Christ the Son of the living God.

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Peter just got done saying Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah, the anointed One. Jesus then answered, yes Peter, and upon this rock, Christ, Messiah, the anointed One; Peter's answer, is the foundation of the church.

Jesus left out the words Peter you are the rock. Jesus was contrasting a stone to a rock.

 

[Brakelite]

And those with the seal of God, are grounded in the Faith, found in the Apostles Creed.

For with simple obedience in the Faith, the Anti-christ can be resisted.

May the Angel of the Apocalypse bless you.

It is what you are doing with the Creed in this thread, that displays the very reason why creeds are never to to be devised and used as a battering ram against those who don't believe as you do. The inevitable result is persecution against other Christians.

 

[BarneyFife]

If you were changed and became like a little child, then the simple obedience of the Faith would endure the might of the Anti-christ.

Already you are preparing your forehead for the mark of the beast.

Already you are submitting to the Anti-christ.

Let this be a general warning to you, learn the basics of the Faith.

Which are contained in the Apostles Creed.

Thanks for the general warning, Officer.

 

[James Macbeth]

You left out the verses that come before:

"He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven."

The church was built on Christ the Son of the living God.

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Peter just got done saying Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah, the anointed One. Jesus then answered, yes Peter, and upon this rock, Christ, Messiah, the anointed One; Peter's answer, is the foundation of the church.

Jesus left out the words Peter you are the rock. Jesus was contrasting a stone to a rock.

You have more stories than mother goose.

By your own words you confound yourself (per usual).

Cephas ܟܐܦܐ just got done saying Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah, the anointed One.
Jesus then answered, yes Cephas ܟܐܦܐ, and upon this Cephas ܟܐܦܐ, Christ, Messiah, the anointed One; Cephas ܟܐܦܐ answer, is the foundation of the church.

Your argument makes no sense in Aramaic, because literally the same word is used...

 

[James Macbeth]

It is what you are doing with the Creed in this thread, that displays the very reason why creeds are never to to be devised and used as a battering ram against those who don't believe as you do. The inevitable result is persecution against other Christians.

What part of the Apostles Creed do you disagree with?

 

[James Macbeth]

Thanks for the general warning, Officer.

Go in peace my son.

 

[Brakelite]

What part of the Apostles Creed do you disagree with?

The fact that it's a Creed. Intended as a test of fellowship. A means by which to discriminate against others and condemn those who conscientiously disagree.

 

[James Macbeth]

The fact that it's a Creed. Intended as a test of fellowship. A means by which to discriminate against others and condemn those who conscientiously disagree.

Could you fellowship with someone that denies that Jesus resurrected?

 

[Davy]

The number one guard against the mark of the Beast, is the Apostles Creed.
....

There you have it brethren, the pushing of a FALSE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE FROM MEN, exalting the Apostle's Creed as being more important than God's written Word!

Afterall, the catholic system does NOT believe in sola scriptura (Scripture Only). They believe what their leaders say supersedes God's written Word.

 

[Brakelite]

Could you fellowship with someone that denies that Jesus resurrected?

Jesus came to call sinners to repentance.

 

[James Macbeth]

There you have it brethren, the pushing of a FALSE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE FROM MEN, exalting the Apostle's Creed as being more important than God's written Word!

Afterall, the catholic system does NOT believe in sola scriptura (Scripture Only). They believe what their leaders say supersedes God's written Word.

Let me ask you this.

During the time of the Apostles 33AD, what was the literacy rate among the people?

And how much would an entire Bible cost?

If you are diligent, and find out.

You will see that sola scriptura (Scripture Only is a man made invention only widely available with the printing press.

Gutenberg printing press did not exist untill 1440.

So what was the Church to do for 1,400 years?

Wait?

Obviously not.

Even with the Printing press, literacy rates remained low untill the industrial revolution.

Your ignorance, Davy, proves you are wrong about most things.

 

[BarneyFife]

Go in peace my son.

I'm not your son. Your platitude is wasted on me.

Welcome to the forum. You've made quite a first impression.

 

[James Macbeth]

Jesus came to call sinners to repentance.

Ok.

But could you fellowship with someone that denies that Jesus resurrected?

Yea, nay?

Does not Saint Paul say something about that?

You might wanna check that out.