How to avoid the mark of the Beast.

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James Macbeth

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You start off by making this ridiculous claim:



As if this “creed” was superior to the Bible!

Yes, you did worse than adding to the word of God, you replaced it with some unscriptural writing from some unknown person(s).

By this you say that the Bible is inferior or not complete without the “creed”.
Without simple obedience in the Faith, found in the Apostles Creed, which obviously points to the holy Scriptures, which thing you would have know, if you understood it.

Who told you to replace the Bible?

And who told you about superiority?

None other than the Devil, whispering pollution into your ear.

My claim is only ridiculous if you reject the simple explanation of Faith found in the Apostles Creed.

Which group are you part of?

Because if you belonged to a proper church, you would have known already of the Apostles Creed.

Do not puff yourself up, to know better than the Apostles.

God will humble the proud, especially those who reject his Apostles.

You have been warned.
 

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None other than the Devil, whispering pollution into your ear.

The polluter in this thread is YOU.

Here I am with my trusty Bible and you come along telling me without an extra biblical writing I’ll take the mark of the beast. And you have the nerve to say that I’m puffed up?!

Which group are you part of?

I don’t associate with “groups”.

Because if you belonged to a proper church, you would have known already of the Apostles Creed.

Thank God I avoided the churches in this late stage cancerous world and was not polluted with garbage like the Apostle’s Creed!

I prefer the Apostle’s INSPIRED writings in the New Testament!

Do not puff yourself up, to know better than the Apostles.

The Apostles IN THE BIBLE know better than me. Those are the apostles I follow!
 

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Nincompoop!

Your confusing the Apostles Creed with the Nicene Creed of 325AD.

Study the Apostles Creed, you will be grounded in the Faith, and be able to withstand the Anti-christ.

Whaaaat. You have serious problems mate talking like that

If I made an error then so be it but you didn't explain how the Apostles were talking about the Catholic church way before it was established...

All you didn't was resort to foul slandering

Your personal attack is not only unwarranted but very unChristlike. You treat people like crap yet you demand respect...

Conceited in pride you have become.
Driven by the evil one.
Resorting to personal attacks and slandering.
 
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When I was very young, I memorized that Creed. I did not own nor at that time had I ever read the Bible, but I did believe God.

Today, I can quote very little from scripture verbatim although God helps me at times to find something that applies to a real situation. One exception to my inability to retain in my memory any scriptures is certainly what is often known to us as the Lord's Prayer. Consider my experience with that prayer:

As a devout young Catholic boy, [which I have posted on this forum before]... when I would confess my sins to the priest, he would then ask me upon leaving the confessional but before leaving the building to do a penance which often consisted of saying the prayer, "Our Father" [Matt 6:9-13] a certain number of times. Anxious to get on with my day and my own activities [having fun of course] I became very proficient in reciting that 'prayer' super fast so as to fulfill the letter of what the priest had required of me without "wasting" time. Thus whether the penance was three times or 10 times, I was soon out of there and ready to do my own things... as God had been for the moment handled... or so I thought!

One of those times after confession when I went out to do my 'super-fast' penance, God smote my heart about what I had done so many times in the past and was about to do one more time. At the time I did not own and had never read the Bible, but I see now that these words applied to what I had been doing:

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me." Matt 15:8

Even though I did not know that verse God spoke its meaning to my heart. From that day forward for as long as I was a formal believing practicing Catholic, no more idle words came out of my mouth when doing penance. I prayed each 'Our Father' carefully thinking about the meaning of those words and just who it was that I was talking to... They had been idle words for me, but they were no longer idle! I spoke the words of the prayer slowly thinking about what they meant or should mean to me.

I have not been a practicing Catholic for more than 50 years, but that and several other things I learned from God as a Catholic are still in my heart.

As to the Apostle's Creed, the once memorized words have long since been forgotten. Reading through them in your OP they came back to me immediately. As a Catholic without a Bible, they were a basis for what I believed. Now, knowing the Bible in a measure, I see where the words came from... As to the designation of certain phrases to particular Apostles, I cannot vouch for that, but I am not a historian although I do know a little history.

I am not against Peter [Simon Peter] but I can only follow him or Paul [Saul] as each of them or any man follows Christ.

For many years as a practicing follower of Christ I have always begun my talks, prayers, devotions, studies with the Lord by reciting the "Lord's Prayer". The words have meaning. They are only vain repetition to someone who simply mouths them vainly.

So then how does one avoid taking the mark of the beast? Is carnal man not a beast?
The Apostles Creed = Simple Faith.
The Lord's prayer = Hope.
Charity = the commandments of God.

We can avoid the mark of the Beast by holding on to simple Faith, and enduring his relentless attacks.

Inorder to be a man one needs a body and a soul.

Body = Animal
Soul = Angel

What is man?


MAN is a reasonable creature of God, which God hath made marvelously of a body & a soul.

As concerning the body, he is mortal like unto beasts.

But as concerning the soul, he is immortal like unto Angels, made after the likeness & image of God, that is to say, with power of knowledge and love, apt to receive felicity, & true blessedness, which consists in the clear knowledge and fruition of God.

I hope this helps.

May the Angel of the Apocalypse bless you.
 

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The Apostles Creed = Simple Faith.
The Lord's prayer = Hope.
Charity = the commandments of God.

We can avoid the mark of the Beast by holding on to simple Faith, and enduring his relentless attacks.

Inorder to be a man one needs a body and a soul.

Body = Animal
Soul = Angel

What is man?


MAN is a reasonable creature of God, which God hath made marvelously of a body & a soul.

As concerning the body, he is mortal like unto beasts.

But as concerning the soul, he is immortal like unto Angels, made after the likeness & image of God, that is to say, with power of knowledge and love, apt to receive felicity, & true blessedness, which consists in the clear knowledge and fruition of God.

I hope this helps.

May the Angel of the Apocalypse bless you.
May God richly bless you as you please Him, my friend!
 
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You did not "provide" anything against Peter being the bedrock.

1 Peter 2:5, Peter uses the word λίθον which means "building stones", not rock (πέτρᾳ) found in Matthew 16:18.

He even uses a play on words, by saying, living stones, instead of building stones.

Our Lord Jesus is the wise builder, he chose his bedrock(peter), upon which he laid his foundation upon, and set down the most important Stone: the corner Stone(Jesus), and built up his Church.

It is not my wish for you to take the mark of the Beast.

Listen to our Lord Jesus Christ:


Matthew 15:20
Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’
If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.
If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.

If you reject the Apostles, you sadly reject our Lord Jesus.

You have been warned.

Then reread all of the verses I posted
 

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The polluter in this thread is YOU.

Here I am with my trusty Bible and you come along telling me without an extra biblical writing I’ll take the mark of the beast. And you have the nerve to say that I’m puffed up?!



I don’t associate with “groups”.



Thank God I avoided the churches in this late stage cancerous world and was not polluted with garbage like the Apostle’s Creed!

I prefer the Apostle’s INSPIRED writings in the New Testament!



The Apostles IN THE BIBLE know better than me. Those are the apostles I follow!
And who told you to forsake the gathering of the fellowship?

None other but the Devil!

You are a lone wolf Christian, this is why my preaching struck a chord in your blackened heart.

It is not too late your to to find fellowship in a proper church, even the Lutherans will take you.

For all proper churches teach the basics of the Apostles Creed.

Name me one piece of trash in the Apostles Creed?

Who told you not to trust your Bible?

None other but the Devil.

You have ways to go.

May the Angel of the Apocalypse bless you.

You have been warned.
 

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So let me get this straight...

The Apostles name the Catholic church centuries before it was founded...:D

That is one if the most misguided things I've ever heard. It's impossible. I'm not even sure the RCC makes such a claim
 

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new age Protestants,

Should people in these assemblies forsake their assembly?

Are all assemblies without heretical teachings?

Is there an assembly out there that you would advise one to forsake?

Does that make you a Devil for doing so?

And who told you to forsake the gathering of the fellowship?

None other but the Devil!

Answer my question and we’ll see how stupid this charge is!
 

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No.

You post where it says Christ is the rock.

Okay then if you don't believe them how about a verse showing what Peter actually is

Revelation 21:14
14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
 

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This passage testifies against your theology, and does plainly show a servant is not above the Master.

Jesus Christ:


Matthew 15:20
Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’
If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.
If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.

If you reject the Apostles, you sadly reject our Lord Jesus.

Your theology will not hold against the Anti-christ.

Only simple obedience in the Faith can repel the Anti-christ.

That simple Faith is found in the Apostles Creed.

Already, your forehead is prepared for the mark of the Beast.

You have been warned.



You sir are a false prophet and a pretend judge of the ppl.
You have zero right to say how a person stands before God and what they will do when faced with great tribulation.
Are you of your father trying to usurp power from God ?
He alone reads the hearts and minds of ppl.

I have no theology nor doctrine except what is defined in GODS word !

I do not know what darkness you crept out from but I pray his marvellous light will break the darkness and shadows in your soul..

You are in my prayers and out of my sight into God fair and just hands.
 

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This a common slander from people in heretical groups.

Hey, Lot was a “lone wolf” with his family.

Noah and his family were “lone wolves”.

Elijah was a “lone wolf”.

I’m in good company!
Slander?

You dare speak of slander, when you call the Apostles Creed garbage!

Our Lord testifies against your lone wolf Tomfoolery!

Matthew 13:30
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

And Saint Paul as well:
Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

You have been warned.
 

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So let me get this straight...

The Apostles name the Catholic church centuries before it was founded...:D

That is one if the most misguided things I've ever heard. It's impossible. I'm not even sure the RCC makes such a claim
The word Catholic was around before the Catholic Church. It's a Greek word. Means universal.
 

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You dare speak of slander, when you call the Apostles Creed garbage!

Why are you offended?

Are you the author of the “creed”?

Now do me a favor sir, answer my question please:

What religious assemblies would you advise others to avoid and forsake?
 

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You sir are a false prophet and a pretend judge of the ppl.
You have zero right to say how a person stands before God and what they will do when faced with great tribulation.
Are you of your father trying to usurp power from God ?
He alone reads the hearts and minds of ppl.

I have no theology nor doctrine except what is defined in GODS word !

I do not know what darkness you crept out from but I pray his marvellous light will break the darkness and shadows in your soul..

You are in my prayers and out of my sight into God fair and just hands.
When did I judge or Prophesy?

What power did I gain from you?

So you think the Anti-christ will give you rights?

I am forewarning you, there is a difference.

If you are a Master, then you need not worry.

May the Angel of the Apocalypse bless you.
 

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Okay then if you don't believe them how about a verse showing what Peter actually is

Revelation 21:14
14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
That is good.

But our Lord adds that Peter is the bedrock of his Church.

Note our Lord does not say foundation or cornerstone.

It is possible to have more than one role.
 

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Why are you offended?

Are you the author of the “creed”?

Now do me a favor sir, answer my question please:

What religious assemblies would you advise others to avoid and forsake?
There are over 60,000 different denominations.

It is not my mission to tell you which one to pick.

My mission here is to warn Christians who either forgot it or omit it.

But if you are a Master, as you claim your are, then you need not worry.

The warning is not for you then, but others who know little of the Faith.

Bur for all else it is good to recite the Apostles Creed both morning & night, as a defense against errors, and a simple weapon to combat the Anti-christ.

May the Angel of the Apocalypse bless you.