Are you asking me? Because I actually do believe He Jesus Christ, the Messiah, is God. :)
For those who think Christ is not God.
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Oh my, Sorry TLHKA..the question was not directed to you and you are doing a sterling job in using the Scriptures to SHOW that Messiah is God.
My apology dear friend.
J.
Exodus 22:28
King James Version
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.
Is "revile the gods" (KJV) an accurate translation in Exo. 22:28?
King James Version
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.
Is "revile the gods" (KJV) an accurate translation in Exo. 22:28?
I think this is the crux of the issue here.
I used to think I had understanding about God beyond what is in the Bible - I had experiences to go with it too. So I think I get where you’re coming from - at least a bit…
As time’s gone on I’ve come to a greater appreciation for the authority of scripture - it’s been painful and humbling to let some of my old ideas go..also realising my ‘experiences’ mainly happened when I was in a state of heightened mental illness…ie hallucinating.
There’s lots of things I don’t fully understand or have the answers to. But that the bible is God’s Word to us, and that Jesus Christ is God I have no doubt. If one believes the Bible is God’s Word, and reads carefully with an open and prayerful mind the whole gospel of John, I honestly can’t see how anyone could question who Jesus truly is. I would challenge anyone who does question who Jesus really is to do just that. It’s the most important question to answer in this lifetime.
Thanks Goldie75. I've seen God the Father as spelled out in the second book of Enoch. I don't doubt that he talked to me either. I know who he is and what form he takes. He talked with me in a Godly way but I heard him as a man speaks with another man. Nothing can change that and for me to deny it would be unforgivable sin. I'll stick with what I know, not what other people want me to do, which is back peddle back out from God. I also know how powerful God the Father is. He's shown me some of his power.
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The second book of Enoch was not included in the Canon of the Catholic church. But sticking to the books only contained in the bible is like following the Catholic church and Roman selection. Since Rome made the cannon selection themselves, and they crucified Christ. Long story short, I'm interested in what they decided wasn't good for them to include in the bible: Biblical canon - Wikipedia
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The Word Became Flesh
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Joh 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Don't twist the scriptures, there's a reason why I chose this topic..
J.
You are getting yourself in a corner..you cannot change the D'var of Elohim to make it say what you want it to say friend...
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Accept, or reject..Christ is God..is He your Saviour?
J.
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For obvious reasons, you are pretending the Word became flesh in John 1 is any different than any prophet who ever lived.
Also, for obvious reasons, you are pretending the Word becoming flesh means God became flesh.
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:13 Awaiting the tikvah hameashsheret (the blessed hope), the appearing of the kavod HaEloheinu HaGadol and Moshieynu Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua,
OJB
waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, ...
..kai...Moshieynu Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua,..
You believe in Christ Jesus as your Savior?
That Mashiach is Elohim?
J.
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Must understand Gods creation began with the first born Son Jesus. First begotten of the Father….. I don’t understand why this is so hard too see?
The scripture reference you gave is not at all speaking of the creation of the cosmos, please understand the creation John is speaking of here is the creation you are a part of,,,, The father’s creation,,,,, born from above.
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I could are less to much scripture that declares Christ to be the first born of the first century creation.
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