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EloyCraft

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Who is 'she'?
Mary Jesus' mother.. she is also Israel or the Church

Primarily she is a woman in an incorruptible body that is in a state of glory, her head is crowned with 12stars the stars are 12 apostles indicating she is their queen.
 

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Mary Jesus' mother.. she is also Israel or the Church

Primarily she is a woman in an incorruptible body that is in a state of glory, her head is crowned with 12stars the stars are 12 apostles indicating she is their queen.

Study the Scripture whereby the "sun and moon and stars" have already been interpreted by God in Genesis.

The woman has already been established as well in Genesis.

God never established for there to be a 'queen of heaven'.
The designation of 'queen of heaven' only pertains to pagan religions and beliefs.
 
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Study the Scripture whereby the "sun and moon and stars" have already been interpreted by God in Genesis.

The woman has already been established as well in Genesis.

God never established for there to be a 'queen of heaven'.

Eve would not be glorified incorrupt.
The designation of 'queen of heaven' only pertains to pagan religions and beliefs.
Your prejudice blinds you brother. For me truth belongs to me I love it wherever it's found.
Jesus is King why would his mother not be a queen?
 

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Study the Scripture whereby the "sun and moon and stars" have already been interpreted by God in Genesis.

The woman has already been established as well in Genesis.

God never established for there to be a 'queen of heaven'.
The designation of 'queen of heaven' only pertains to pagan religions and beliefs.
Nothing you wrote excludes Mary as the woman.
 

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A.) Mary was a woman and she gave birth to the 'body God prepared for Himself'.

B.) Mary was a wife to Joseph and they fulfilled their wedding vows and produced children by the Will of God.

C.) Mary is no longer a woman.

Learn your Biblical ABC's
Blind to the obvious you are and why do you stoop to ad hominem statements?
 

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A.) Mary was a woman and she gave birth to the 'body God prepared for Himself'.

B.) Mary was a wife to Joseph and they fulfilled their wedding vows and produced children by the Will of God.

C.) Mary is no longer a woman.

Learn your Biblical ABC's
All the lame rebuttals protestants use to stay blind
 

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What do you believe the symbolic nature and meaning of this passage from revelation means: Revelation 12:1

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

Mary ever virgin mother of God queen of heaven and earth!

like it says
 
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Do you believe this biblical principle?

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

A sinner would be an evil tree with evil fruit, but the fruit of Mary is salvation!

Mary brings in the good fruits of our redemption and salvation!

So Mary CANNOT be a sinner or a bad tree!
 
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David in NJ

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All the lame rebuttals protestants use to stay blind

You said: "Blind to the obvious you are and why do you stoop to ad hominem statements?"

Not one ad hominem attack against you.

You said: "All the lame rebuttals protestants use to stay blind." = ad hominem statement
 
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Gen 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

Seed: singular only one!

Matt 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Only christ is born of Mary according to scripture:

Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Only the Holy Ghost conceived in Mary according to scripture:

Lk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

A son singular
 

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Ester is an example to us of faith and courage under dire circumstances.

she brought salvation to her people

And the birth of our Saviour is one that Mary, herself, with her freewill, said "YES", and delivered salvation for all mankind. Lk 1:38

Biblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

Mother of God Lk 1:43
 

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you don’t accept biblical principles?
What about types and figures?
Types, to a minimum.

False religions have a tendency to "type" themselves into crazy doctrines.

The book of Rev is 99.9% literal with a few minor "types" to give clarity to the literal subject.
 

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she brought salvation to her people

And the birth of our Saviour is one that Mary, herself, with her freewill, said "YES", and delivered salvation for all mankind. Lk 1:38

Biblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Can you post the scripture verse that would verify "Mary brought salvation to her people"
 

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Can you post the scripture verse that would verify "Mary brought salvation to her people"

many

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30 and cos she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Lk 1:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

in her arms as lk 1:28 says the Lord is with Her!