When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

[tailgator]

No there won’t be any more bodily resurrections because the resurrection has nothing to do with raising dead earthly bodies.

Those that rose from the dead and appeared in a body when Christ was raised were specifically raised bodily as judgement against Israel.

Ezekiel 37 bodily resurection from.the grave is not a judgement against Israel.

It is the righteous judgement of God giving everlasting life to Israel and giving those saints the promised land as an everlasting possession.
Messiah shall reign over them forever and those resurected saints shall keep God's judgments forever.

I'm not sure how you see being God's people,and God making an everlasting covenant with you as a judgement against you.Your making no sense at all
Here is what God says of the house of Israel which is bodily resurected from.the grave.As I've said,this takes place at the coming of Christ.

Ezekiel 37
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

 

[IndianaRob]

Ezekiel 37 bodily resurection from.the grave is not a judgement against Israel.

It is the righteous judgement of God giving everlasting life to Israel and giving those saints the promised land as an everlasting possession.
Messiah shall reign over them forever and those resurected saints shall keep God's judgments forever.

I'm not sure how you see being God's people,and God making an everlasting covenant with you as a judgement against you.Your making no sense at all
Here is what God says of the house of Israel which is bodily resurected from.the grave.As I've said,this takes place at the coming of Christ.

Ezekiel 37
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

What’s your take on this verse and the one where the queen of the south rises up in judgement against that generation of Jews?

Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

 

[Douggg]

The AoD is still future.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The AoD is still future.


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LOL. This reminds me of why I rarely look at your charts. Look at this nonsense. It gives me a headache. I can't look at it any longer or I might have a seizure. You have the seventh trumpet sounding already before the fifth and sixth trumpets sound. Not that the rest of your chart makes any sense, but that alone shows your lack of credibility. Do you actually think anyone takes you seriously with this nonsense? No one does.

 

[tailgator]

What’s your take on this verse and the one where the queen of the south rises up in judgement against that generation of Jews?

Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

My take is a generation can mean more than one thing.I don't say "that" generation as you just did.I say"this"generation as Christ did.I see a lot of people in Israel today who fit Jesus description of "this" generation ,so I don't believe "this" generation has come to its end quite yet.

Word: genea

Pronounce: ghen-eh-ah'

Strongs Number: G1074

Orig: from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):--age, generation, nation, time. G1085

Use: TDNT-1:662,114 Noun Feminine

Heb Strong: H410 H1755 H2233 H2567 H3117 H3211 H4940 H5971 H7256 H8029

1. 1) fathered, birth, nativity2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy2b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character2b1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied by each successive generation), a space of 30-33 years

 

[tailgator]

What’s your take on this verse and the one where the queen of the south rises up in judgement against that generation of Jews?

Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

I believe men from all of the countries from Iran down to Egypt will rise up and condemn the people of Israel.
After Israel has imprisoned and killed all of Jesus disciples during the last 42 months of the beasts reign.




Mathew 23
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

 

[IndianaRob]

My take is a generation can mean more than one thing.I don't say "that" generation as you just did.I say"this"generation as Christ did.I see a lot of people in Israel today who fit Jesus description of "this" generation ,so I don't believe "this" generation has come to its end quite yet.

Word: genea

Pronounce: ghen-eh-ah'

Strongs Number: G1074

Orig: from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):--age, generation, nation, time. G1085

Use: TDNT-1:662,114 Noun Feminine

Heb Strong: H410 H1755 H2233 H2567 H3117 H3211 H4940 H5971 H7256 H8029

1. 1) fathered, birth, nativity2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy2b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character2b1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied by each successive generation), a space of 30-33 years

So when you read the verses below you don't see any correlation between Jesus being in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (pointing to the resurrection of Jesus) and the men of Nineveh and the queen of the south rising with Jesus?

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

 

[tailgator]

So when you read the verses below you don't see any correlation between Jesus being in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (pointing to the resurrection of Jesus) and the men of Nineveh and the queen of the south rising with Jesus?

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

"The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it:"


The men of Nineveh did not rise up.in judgement and condemn anyone in the first century

Rome did.

The men of Nineveh (Iraq)are getting pretty upset with the people of Israel today as is all other Muslims .Give them another 4 years or so and they will be ready to condemn them.

 

[tailgator]

So when you read the verses below you don't see any correlation between Jesus being in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (pointing to the resurrection of Jesus) and the men of Nineveh and the queen of the south rising with Jesus?

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

I'd say the men of Nineveh(Iraq) will be ready to condemn "this" generation in Israel right about the time the Euphrates river dries up

Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

 

[tailgator]

So when you read the verses below you don't see any correlation between Jesus being in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (pointing to the resurrection of Jesus) and the men of Nineveh and the queen of the south rising with Jesus?

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

A lot of men in Nineveh and Egypt would like to condemn this generation when they read things like this .It's understandable

Israeli strike on mosque and school in Gaza kills scores, sparking international outrage

At least 93 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli strike on a school and mosque in Gaza sheltering displaced people, according to local officials.

news.yahoo.com

 

[IndianaRob]

So when you read the verses below you don't see any correlation between Jesus being in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (pointing to the resurrection of Jesus) and the men of Nineveh and the queen of the south rising with Jesus?

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

I'd say the men of Nineveh(Iraq) will be ready to condemn "this" generation in Israel right about the time the Euphrates river dries up

Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

The bible specifically says the men of Nineveh that rise in judgement are the same men that repented at the preaching of Jonah which means they can't be modern time men of Iraq.

 

[Douggg]

.....You have the seventh trumpet sounding already before the fifth and sixth trumpets sound.......

Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.


So you don't believe that the wrath of Satan is a woe to the inhabiters of the earth - in spite of what the verse says ?

Relative to Jesus's Second Coming, when does the time, times, half time that Satan will have left - take place ?

 

[tailgator]

The bible specifically says the men of Nineveh that rise in judgement are the same men that repented at the preaching of Jonah which means they can't be modern time men of Iraq.

So you believe there were men who were over 800 years old who rose in judgement and condemned someone in the first century?

I'm not even 100 and I don't feel like rising up against anyone.Im doing well if I'm still working.

 

[IndianaRob]

So you believe there were men who were over 800 years old who rose in judgement and condemned someone in the first century?

I'm not even 100 and I don't feel like rising up against anyone.Im doing well if I'm still working.

Rise up means to be raised from the dead, not rising up as in an insurrection or battle. The Jews that hated God saw all of those Old Testament saints rise from the dead and walk the streets of Jerusalem and most of them still rejected Christ.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.


So you don't believe that the wrath of Satan is a woe to the inhabiters of the earth - in spite of what the verse says ?

Relative to Jesus's Second Coming, when does the time, times, half time that Satan will have left - take place ?

Do you actually think you are going to convince anyone to agree with your ridiculous belief that the seventh trumpet starts sounding even before the fifth and sixth trumpets sound? LOL! Doug, you are so incredibly dishonest in your treatment of scripture. You have the order of trumpts as 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 5, 6. Do you do something like this with the seals, also? I don't think so. Why not? Do you do something like this with the vials, also? I don't think so. Why not?

To think that every reference to the word "woe" has to refer to one of the three woes (fifth, sixth and seventh trumpets) is ridiculous. You are constantly trying to relate unrelated scriptures. You have no choice but to do that since your doctrine is based on making scripture say what you want it to say.

Which trumpet does this verse refer to, Douggg?

Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

As I have told you many times before, Satan was cast out of heaven long ago, so there is no chance that Revelation 12:12-14 has any relation to any of the woes that relate to the fifth, sixth and seventh trumpets.

Also, Revelation 12 is not a continuation of the description of the seventh trumpet, so why would you think anything in Revelation 12 relates directly to the seventh trumpet? Revelation 12 starts out by going all the way back to the birth of Christ. So, acting as if it's a description of the seventh trumpet is ludicrous. The description of what will happen when the seventh trumpet sounds is only found in Revelation 11:15-18.

Any time someone resorts to doing something completely dishonest, illogical, unreasonable and just plain stupid as putting the seventh trumpet before the fifth and sixth trumpets, it can't be taken seriously.

 

[tailgator]

Rise up means to be raised from the dead, not rising up as in an insurrection or battle. The Jews that hated God saw all of those Old Testament saints rise from the dead and walk the streets of Jerusalem and most of them still rejected Christ.

Mathew 27
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.


Where does it say these saints were rejected ?
Where does it say they condemn anyone?


It is very unlikely that a saint would condemn anyone.

Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

 

[IndianaRob]

Mathew 27
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.


Where does it say these saints were rejected ?
Where does it say they condemn anyone?


It is very unlikely that a saint would condemn anyone.

Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

It doesn't say they were rejected nor did I say they were rejected. I said the unbelieving Jews that saw those people rise from the dead which was overwhelming proof that Jesus was the Christ, still rejected Christ.

 

[tailgator]

It doesn't say they were rejected nor did I say they were rejected. I said the unbelieving Jews that saw those people rise from the dead which was overwhelming proof that Jesus was the Christ, still rejected Christ.

Where does it say unbelieving Jews saw them,?
Jesus said the only sign unbelievers would receive is the sign of Jonah.If unbelievers saw many resurected saints walking about,then that would have been a different sign.

Mathew 12
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:


Mathew 27
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.


Scripture does not say unbelievers saw this sign.

 

[IndianaRob]

Where does it say unbelieving Jews saw them,?

Mathew 27
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

I doesn't, neither does it say anything about God coming down from heaven to punish the inhabitants of the earth when Jesus was murdered but Psalm 18 does.

 

[tailgator]

I doesn't, neither does it say anything about God coming down from heaven to punish the inhabitants of the earth when Jesus was murdered but Psalm 18 does.

The only people I've read about being punished the day Jesus died were two men on either side of him who were crucified at the same time .

I haven't read of anyone else being punished at that time.