When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

[rwb]

God promised the land to Abraham and his seed which is Christ.

NO! The promise of Abraham's Seed (Christ) is that whosoever believes shall inherit the whole earth made new again. Abraham was not so daft that he longed for physical land destined to be burned up. He looked and longed for an inheritance, not in the land of promise, he looked for a city whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:8-10 (KJV) By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:13-16 (KJV) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

 

[rwb]

I was made free from sin.

Romans 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Believers are made free from the penalty of sin, which is the second death. We will not be made free from ALL sin this side of heaven. We would not be told to confess our sins if we never sin.

1 John 1:9 (KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

[tailgator]

NO! The promise of Abraham's Seed (Christ) is that whosoever believes shall inherit the whole earth made new again. Abraham was not so daft that he longed for physical land destined to be burned up. He looked and longed for an inheritance, not in the land of promise, he looked for a city whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:8-10 (KJV) By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:13-16 (KJV) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

False
God showed Abraham the land that he will give him.

Genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.


Abraham is promised the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession.Abraham ,Isaac ,Jacob and Joseph all died and were buried in that land expecting God would keep his promise.
Jacob and Joseph both dying in Egypt made sure their remains would be buried in the land promised to Abraham.
When we read of the resurection of Israel ,we find that they inherit the land and dwell there forever with messiah as king.

There are many things written about that land after the the invasion of Gog and the heaven and earth are restored new such as the river of water of life with the tree of life along its banks.And the river flowing into the dead sea which is full of fish.

Yes,the land of Canaan will be a sight to see.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

That's actually false.

God promised the land to Abraham and his seed which is Christ.
God did not apply any IF IF IF to Abraham or Christ.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

God promised to give the land to Christ.Its that simple.

You needed to keep reading from there.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

[tailgator]

You needed to keep reading from there.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I did not need to keep readng.I have that memorized.

The point I'm making is God promised Christ. There are no IF IF IF.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

False
God showed Abraham the land that he will give him.

Yes, and then what does it say in Hebrews 11:8-16? Did you read it? It says he and the other OT saints who died were strangers on this earth and looked for a city whose builder and maker is God and for a better, heavenly country. What do you think that means?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I did not need to keep readng.I have that memorized.

The point I'm making is God promised Christ. There are no IF IF IF.

What's this "IF IF IF" stuff"? God's promises to Abraham and his seed apply to Christ and those who belong to Christ, right? As Galatians 3:16 and Galatians 3:29 indicate.

 

[tailgator]

Yes, and then what does it say in Hebrews 11:8-16? Did you read it? It says he and the other OT saints who died were strangers on this earth and looked for a city whose builder and maker is God and for a better, heavenly country. What do you think that means?

If you read the scripture ,you will find that new Jerusalem comes down from.hraven from.God and the river of life flows out of it toward the dead sea which is to the east and the waters are made clean so that the dead sea will be full of fish.The tree of life will be growing in Canaan too from what I've read.The tree of life provides fruit every month and the leaves are used for healing.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I was made free from sin.

Romans 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

That means to be made free from the wages of sin, which is the second death (Revelation 20:15) which is in contrast to the gift of God which is eternal life (Romans 6:23). The gift of God is salvation by His grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-10). You make salvation by works and not by grace through faith because you make it so that one must be perfect and never sin in order to be saved.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

If you read the scripture ,you will find that new Jerusalem comes does from.hraven from.God and the river of life flows out of it toward the dead sea which is to the east and the waters are made clean so that the dead sea will be full of fish.The tree of life will be growing in Canaan too from what I've read.The tree of life provides fruit every month and the leaves are used for healing.

Yes, Revelation 21-22 describes the new heavens and new earth. That's what Peter said we are looking for.

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[tailgator]

Yes, Revelation 21-22 describes the new heavens and new earth. That's what Peter said we are looking for.

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Ezekiel describes Canaan during that time .It's a big change .Fish in the dead sea pretty much sums up the transformation.

Ezekiel 47
This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah,[b] where it enters the Dead Sea. When it empties into the sea, the salty water there becomes fresh. 9 Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live. 10 Fishermen will stand along the shore; from En Gedi to En Eglaim there will be places for spreading nets. The fish will be of many kinds—like the fish of the Mediterranean Sea

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Believers are made free from the penalty of sin, which is the second death. We will not be made free from ALL sin this side of heaven. We would not be told to confess our sins if we never sin.

1 John 1:9 (KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

How many times does a virgin have to fornicate before she is no longer a virgin?

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

How many times does a virgin have to fornicate before she is no longer a virgin?

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ

You just keep misinterpreting verse after verse, none of which say we have to be sinless in order to be saved. It is by grace through faith and not by our own works and righteousness that we are saved (Ephesians 2:8-10). I feel sorry for you. It must be a lot of pressure for you to keep from sinning even one time in order to avoid being condemned to the second death, which is the lake of fire (Revelation 20:15).

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

The mark of sin is also symbolized in the law by the animals that were not to be offered up to the Lord, and the nature of the unclean beasts.

If you want to know the difference between the clean and unclean beasts, you need to learn of their nature. Just as the Holy Spirit was shown to John as a dove, and Jesus was symbolized as the Lamb of God.


The Lord said in the law that those animals that were to be offered up were to be without spot or blemish, or any evilfavoredness. Even men with any blemishes were not allowed to come near to the altar of the Lord to profane it.

These physical blemishes were really symbolizing spiritual blemishes in man. God often uses things in nature and natural things to symbolize spiritual truths, and the animal sacrifices were to symbolize the sacrifices to be made by Gods people.


Just as we are told to present ourselves a living sacrifice, holy and without spot or blemish.

Paul talked about the offering up of the Gentiles, like a priest who was making offerings on the altar of sacrifice. Even Paul himself said he was ready to be offered up in 2 Timothy 4:6.

So when you have been given eyes to see the spiritual things of God, there is more to the law of Moses than meets the natural eye.

I will post some verses about the spot and blemish of sin to confirm this message.

Ephesians 5:27
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

1 Timothy 6:14
That thou keep this commandment withoutspot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

1 Peter 1:19
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

2 Peter 3:14
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Jude 1:12
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

So we see in the above examples that being without spot or blemish is speaking of a spiritual blemish, and that spiritual blemish is sin.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The mark of sin is also symbolized in the law by the animals that were not to be offered up to the Lord, and the nature of the unclean beasts.

If you want to know the difference between the clean and unclean beasts, you need to learn of their nature. Just as the Holy Spirit was shown to John as a dove, and Jesus was symbolized as the Lamb of God.


The Lord said in the law that those animals that were to be offered up were to be without spot or blemish, or any evilfavoredness. Even men with any blemishes were not allowed to come near to the altar of the Lord to profane it.

These physical blemishes were really symbolizing spiritual blemishes in man. God often uses things in nature and natural things to symbolize spiritual truths, and the animal sacrifices were to symbolize the sacrifices to be made by Gods people.


Just as we are told to present ourselves a living sacrifice, holy and without spot or blemish.

Paul talked about the offering up of the Gentiles, like a priest who was making offerings on the altar of sacrifice. Even Paul himself said he was ready to be offered up in 2 Timothy 4:6.

So when you have been given eyes to see the spiritual things of God, there is more to the law of Moses than meets the natural eye.

I will post some verses about the spot and blemish of sin to confirm this message.

Ephesians 5:27
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

1 Timothy 6:14
That thou keep this commandment withoutspot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

1 Peter 1:19
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

2 Peter 3:14
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Jude 1:12
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

So we see in the above examples that being without spot or blemish is speaking of a spiritual blemish, and that spiritual blemish is sin.

You are acting as if we can make ourselves spotless and without blemish. It's incredible how deceived you are about this. Only by confessing our sins and having our sins covered by the blood of Christ can we be presented without spot or blemish. This has nothing to do with us having to be sinless in order to be presented without spot or blemish.

Is the following passage in your Bible or not?

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

It doesn't matter how many verses you post if you don't have any understanding of these verses.

 

[tailgator]

You are acting as if we can make ourselves spotless and without blemish. It's incredible how deceived you are about this. Only by confessing our sins and having our sins covered by the blood of Christ can we be presented without spot or blemish. This has nothing to do with us having to be sinless in order to be presented without spot or blemish.

Is the following passage in your Bible or not?

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

It doesn't matter how many verses you post if you don't have any understanding of these verses.

That's how I see it.Only through the blood of Jesus christ is anyone clean.

Daniel 11:35
And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

 

[rwb]

How many times does a virgin have to fornicate before she is no longer a virgin?

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ

How does Paul's desire to present the Church as a chaste virgin to Christ mean Christians can no longer sin?

It's natural for Paul to want these disciples of Christ to keep themselves pure knowing how easily the serpent can beguile us through subtilty, corrupting our minds from the simplicity that is in Christ. That's why Paul instructs the Church not to receive anyone who might cause us to sin by leading us away from the simplicity of Christ, that we would not receive another spirit or another gospel that is not the Gospel of Christ Jesus our Lord.

2 Corinthians 11:3 (KJV) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:4 (KJV) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

How does Paul's desire to present the Church as a chaste virgin to Christ mean Christians can no longer sin?

It's natural for Paul to want these disciples of Christ to keep themselves pure knowing how easily the serpent can beguile us through subtilty, corrupting our minds from the simplicity that is in Christ. That's why Paul instructs the Church not to receive anyone who might cause us to sin by leading us away from the simplicity of Christ, that we would not receive another spirit or another gospel that is not the Gospel of Christ Jesus our Lord.

2 Corinthians 11:3 (KJV) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:4 (KJV) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

How many stains of sin does it take to defile a white garment?

Revelation 3:4
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Anyone who says you can abide in sin and still remain in Christ at the same time is a liar and a deceiver.

It is written in 2 John 9-10 “ Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”

It is your sins that separate you from God…

Isaiah 59:2 “But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.”

Just as Jesus is separated from sinners…..
Hebrews 7:26 “For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate fromsinners, and made higher than the heavens;”

And again "in Christ" there is no sin….. 1 John 3…..
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

And to Love God and to "abide in Christ" is to keep His commandments….
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwells in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.”

Abide in the Light of the Truth….1 John 2…..
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not inhim.5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.”

Did Jesus walk in sin? Of course not!
Jesus said in John 12:46 " I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believes on me should not "abide in darkness."

Meaning you should not abide in "the works of darkness," which is sin.

Also no false doctrine, or lie is of the Truth…..21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is ofthe truth.”

Just as the prince of this world and his spirit has no place in Christ either…. John 14:30 “Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.”

Sin and darkness do not abide in the Light of Christ, and neither do those who still abide in sin and in darkness.

Jesus said whosoever commits sin is a servant of sin, and a servant of sin will not abide in His house forever.

 

[IndianaRob]

We are talking about the whole house of Israel.
Not many, but the whole house.


11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.


Just to make sure you are saying there won't be anymore of israel resurected since your saying the whole house of israel.has already been resurected

We are talking about the whole house of Israel.
Not many, but the whole house.


11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.


Just to make sure you are saying there won't be anymore of israel resurected since your saying the whole house of israel.has already been resurected

No there won’t be any more bodily resurrections because the resurrection has nothing to do with raising dead earthly bodies.

Those that rose from the dead and appeared in a body when Christ was raised were specifically raised bodily as judgement against Israel.