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MatthewG

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No one should ever put their trust in a man.

There is the Holy Spirit that leads men in directions of their own choice.

To labor and study the Bible some go for it, some come up with different results, @Behold

the Bible says this.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
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21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
 

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I am not shaken because people believe that I am wrong.

I didnt ask you if you are shaken.

I asked you why you are trying to harm real believers, with cult teaching?
I pointed out that God does not lead his own to do this......and yet, here you are, and you say you are His?
So, why are you doing it?
 

MatthewG

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All human beings are fallible.

All good things come from above are from God - > we can be lead by the holy spirit have our conjectures and it is okay to admit we may be wrong...

Those who just assume they are right all the time no matter what, can lead to being mean and arrogant.

I am telling people to not believe me... as there are times I can be wrong and people are fallible.

Those who think they are perfect and got it all down are wrong, if they are not doing study to righty divide the word of God.

I am wrong sometimes.
 
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No one should ever put their trust in a man.

You say that noone should trust in a man, and here you are with VIDEOS, made by a MAN, and you want the member here to trusts this man.

What ?????

So, again, why are you asking these members to trust the man in the video, when you say we are not to trust a man?
What is your obsession to try to get the members here, hooked on this cult teaching?
Why are you doing this, MatthewG?
 

MatthewG

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Have you never had someone teach you the Bible?

the Bible says there are teachers out there, what do you do with that my brother?

James 3:1New International Version
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
 

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Test all things by the spirit...

Hold on to what is good.
 

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Have you never had someone teach you the Bible?
the Bible says there are teachers out there, what do you do with that my brother?
James 3:1New International Version
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

Are you talking to me?
If so, you need to respond to my post.......... then i know you are addressing me.

And to answer your question..
Im an evangelist with a teaching gift.
Saved at 17, called by God at 26.
Ive helped thousands of believers to become grounded in Grace and more, on both sides of the world.

I have a real life and a real ministry, but, i spend the time i have for it, on forums, many, worldwide,..... to teach and mostly to highlight heretics for the benefit of the real believers.
ON THIS Forum, i have about 300 Threads written, that are like a year of Seminary......so many topics, and one of them is "how to spot the heretic".
That's why im on your Threads.

See it now?
 
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ChristisGod

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"Online" has ruined millions of Christians.
"Google Search" can lead you to hell and worse.

On forums, so many deceived were deceived by some online liar's "website".
They get trained by it, then here they come, with their CuT and PASTE and videos.. hoping to drown your faith and ruin your Christianity, same as theirs is ruined.
Just look at what social media has done to our youth and trust me it’s the devils playground and he is the prince of the world . So how much more for those seeking spiritual things and being deceived in the process . The deception is always truth mixed with error which creates the heresies .
 

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No one should ever put their trust in a man.

There is the Holy Spirit that leads men in directions of their own choice.

To labor and study the Bible some go for it, some come up with different results, @Behold

the Bible says this.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
New King James Version

21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
If one is not grounded and accountable he is open game for the enemy to deceive .
 

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Just look at what social media has done to our youth and trust me it’s the devils playground and he is the prince of the world . So how much more for those seeking spiritual things and being deceived in the process . The deception is always truth mixed with error which creates the heresies .

Amen.

You point is excellent.
its a Fact that the Devil and his "Ministers" come with Truth mixed with error, and that is why is SOUNDS, as if its true.
 
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Test all things by the spirit...

Hold on to what is good.
Maybe we should just pretend that this event that took place from 66-70 ad never took place, or maybe just ignore the fact that maybe our perspective is not what we believe it is?


Revelation 1:1 KJV
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
 

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He told John to measure Herods temple, because it was still standing when John wrote it would be trodden of the Gentiles 42 months.
 

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For most of my fifty of years preaching I taught that Jesus' Second Coming was near, so near that I expected to live to see the Advent. The ministers I listened to as a boy had the same message and expectation, but they died without seeing Jesus.
From your post “For most of my fifty of years preaching I taught that Jesus' Second Coming was near, so near that I expected to live to see the Advent. The ministers I listened to as a boy had the same message and expectation, but they died without seeing Jesus.”

something that has been on my mind the past couple of days is Hebrews 11:7-40 which is really long. But a few verses stand out regarding what you shared “but they died without seeing Jesus”.
Consider with Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

And with Hebrews 11:36-40 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: [37] They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins (any connection to goats and sheep?…skin); being destitute, afflicted, tormented; [38] (Of whom the world was not worthy… they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. [39] And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: [40] God having provided some better thing for us Hebrews 8:6, that they without us should not be made perfect.

“that they without us should not be made perfect” what is confusing is then Hebrews 12:22-23 But you are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, [23] To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Back to Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

What does “These all died in faith, not having received the promises,” …”these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise” mean?
 
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MatthewG

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I was posting and excerpt from the premises of the book. Perhaps reading it will help find the answers I have a copy myself I haven’t read all of it.

It is very helpful for the most part to consider.

I don’t believe in adequate to answer your questions though I appreciate you sharing.
 

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Thank you for sharing some of the insights, from what other people may say about it.

There are some that will disagree as there are several different views on Revelation.

Idealist View,
Historist View,
Preterist View,
Futurist View, - with sub views like post mill or pre mill.
Do you understand that everything you teach here is from people? I'm not sure you really get that.

You make statements like the above talking about what "other people" say/think about this or that and you clearly don't grasp that you are getting all of your ideas and beliefs from "other people" and presenting them as if they are your own conclusions from studying Scripture.

Do you understand the point that I'm trying to make clear to you? Every thread you make, it's so obvious that you've watched a sermon video, or read an article, about a concept or doctrine and you are now presenting it as your convictional belief, etc.

Do you not trust your own ability to read Scripture and decide for yourself what is being taught therein?
 
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MatthewG

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I’m thankful to just say.

Hey, do what you want.

Your life is up to you to live.

I am just a guy… who is fallible and imperfect just looking to love God and love others.

It is true I am hyper/very critical it is a flaw of mine, and I use to be a very big mean person to other individual people and hate them…

Even over things in the Bible I use to use to cut peoples throat with.

I try to be as respectful as I can towards all people on this forum site, and see as no one here as stupid.

I am not any better than the next guy.

God bless you and take care.
 

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Do you understand that everything you teach here is from people? I'm not sure you really get that.

You make statements like the above talking about what "other people" say/think about this or that and you clearly don't grasp that you are getting all of your ideas and beliefs from "other people" and presenting them as if they are your own conclusions from studying Scripture.

Do you understand the point that I'm trying to make clear to you? Every thread you make, it's so obvious that you've watched a sermon video, or read an article, about a concept or doctrine and you are now presenting it as your convictional belief, etc.

Do you not trust your own ability to read Scripture and decide for yourself what is being taught therein?
I noticed a lack of knowledge on the topic and no confidence in the James video and just reading the materials from others . It was a confusing presentation
 

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I can not help it if people get upset or defensive over other people who have a differing opinion.

The truth is men are shakeable. Their beliefs are shakable, just like a building.

The only thing that will remain in the things that are spiritual they can not be shaken.

Believing that the Son of Man came when he promised to come, and the apostles pushed this to others to be watching and reading in their day in age confirms the truth of that the Son of Man was indeed coming to get the bride of Christ, the (144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel) is hard to get around.

I personally do not believe any of those 12 tribes are still around today and exist.

If the hope is for Jesus to come back, when in actuality Jesus is with you by the Holy Spirit, and the Spirit of Christ with-in you due to faith, why can not we enjoy being in relationship with the Father, and having the resurrected christ with-in us? The Kingdom of God is with-in those who have faith and believe in the death, burial, and resurrection that leads us to do good works, in which we allow the Holy Spirit, and the spirit of Christ to come through us, in which we love God and love others.

The Second coming will be visual and audible.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
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