What Is "Predestination"? How Does It Shape Your Daily Life?

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Ritajanice

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I know. you do not get it.

I can not help you understand, you must see for yourself

I am physically alive, But I am at the same time spiritually dead.

And I will be until I am born again (if I was nto already born again)

Its basic..
Neither can I help you understand only God can.

And will be until I am Born Again?

What does that mean?

I thought you were Born Again?

Your spirit has already been Born Again hasn’t it?
 

Ritajanice

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I am physically alive, But I am at the same time spiritually dead.

And I will be until I am born again (if I was nto already born again)
So...you are physically alive without a spirit?

How can anyone be physically alive without a spirit?

Our spirit as in mine, yours was spiritually dead...yet we had a spirit...only it wasn’t / hadn’t been brought from death to life with Christ.

Maybe @CadyandZoe could explain better?

He helped me understand our spirit.
 

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Of course I read your whole post.

Did you read mine?

You...me....understand God’s word very differently?

We’re on different wavelengths of understanding/ knowledge.
smh

You asked why said something, and said you thought i was born again.
And I will be until I am born again (if I was not already born again)

Its basic..
If you had read "if I was not already born again" you would not ask me that question..
 

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So...you are physically alive without a spirit?
see this is what I mean

did I say i did not have a spirit?
How can anyone be physically alive without a spirit?
Was their spirit alive?
Our spirit as in mine, yours was spiritually dead...yet we had a spirit...only it wasn’t / hadn’t been brought from death to life with Christ.
Thank you. This is what I have said so many times now I lost count
Maybe @CadyandZoe could explain better?

He helped me understand our spirit.
I understand it perfectly well thank you.

But you do not seem to grasp anything I have said..
 

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yes and he told us not to rely on our brains. And he warns us of human wisdom did he not?

Since when do we bring God down to our level?
He told us not to rely on our brains, but he didn't tell us not to use them. Using our brains doesn't bring God down to our level.
 
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Listen Big Boy...get off your darn pedestal..before God knocks you off your high up perch.

Your exactly the same with Epi...everyone is wrong except you...
Your reported.

I am not the one posting myself on a perch.. You made a false accusation about me, Because YOU are on the perch. You will not admit when you are wrong

You don't tell people they believe something, then when they show you you are in error. Go off on them like you just did.

Again, When did I say I did not have a spirit? Can you answer the question. Or in pride are you so afraid to admit you were wrong in your claim, that you can't answer?

I have never stated I did not have a spirit. I stated my spirit was DEAD.
 

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why do you keep going outside of scripture? did God say he had a plan for us? No

It says he has determined before hand that we will (not might) be conformed to his image.

How can you have any hope in God if you do bot believe his basic promise?
We are to pray constantly (1 Thessalonians 5:17). Praying means talking to the Lord. In doing so, God teaches us a better understanding of his will. You might call that "going outside of scripture," but that is exactly what we are supposed to do - pray constantly - and it's in scripture.
 

Ritajanice

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I practice what I preach..

Will you acknowledge you did not read my post?? And because of it asked a silly question I already answered?
Here you go again..with your condescending words.

Take a good look in the mirror, buddy...I reckon it’s been a long time since you did..you may even crack it, if you decide to look..lol.
 

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He told us not to rely on our brains, but he didn't tell us not to use them. Using our brains doesn't bring God down to our level.
true

But when David said God knew him before he was in his mothers womb (before he was even born)

then we should use our brains as you say, And take David at his word.

Again, God is outside of time,, We should not bring him down to our level as if he did not know what would happen.
 

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what does the word say,

who is condemned?

vs whp is not condemned?

who’s fault is it if they are condemned forever? Gods, or ours?
The issue I raised isn't about whose fault it is. The issue is: Is it a just sentence to eternally torture some one for a foolish decision?
 

Ritajanice

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Your reported.

I am not the one posting myself on a perch.. You made a false accusation about me, Because YOU are on the perch. You will not admit when you are wrong

You don't tell people they believe something, then when they show you you are in error. Go off on them like you just did.

Again, When did I say I did not have a spirit? Can you answer the question. Or in pride are you so afraid to admit you were wrong in your claim, that you can't answer?

I have never stated I did not have a spirit. I stated my spirit was DEAD.
I don’t care what you reported... I should report the amount of times you have said I’m not Born Again...you don’t scare me with your tactics, buddy.
 

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Here you go again..with your condescending words.

Take a good look in the mirror, buddy...I reckon it’s been a long time since you did..you may even crack it, if you decide to look..lol.
I am not the one falsely accusing you of saying something you did not say.

When someone says over and over they have a spirit. then you come at them and accuse them of saying they did not have a spirit. Your bearing false witness

You have a choice. You can confess your error and your sin. Or you can continue to act like this.

You want to continue this nonsense?
 

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I don’t care what you reported... I should report the amount of times you have said I’m not Born Again...you don’t scare me with your tactics, buddy.
Well go ahead. Because I have never stated your not born again. I am not God. I may question it, Like I question Epi and others, But I can not say it. Because I do nto know your heart
 

Ritajanice

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You don't tell people they believe something, then when they show you you are in error. Go off on them like you just did.
You showed me no error in my posts..you just show your arrogance, thinking you are far superior in knowledge than anyone else..you ain’t...in fact I’d say most of your posts are in confusion..your words and not Gods words.