What are we doing?

[BlessedPeace]

No. There are many references that speak to bearing fruit; but it is the only reference that speaks to being known by the fruits.

No,it is not.

1 John 4:1

Unless you insist upon the phrase itself being exact in scripture, "by their fruits you shall know them", there are many verses that identify the metaphor of fruits .
Matthew 12:33. “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad, for the tree is known by its fruit."

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Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,"

 

[PS95]

Are you part of the problem, or a part of the solution?

Love builds bridges, not walls.

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Well, Univeralism, in which you seem to ascribe does not see anything wrong with teaching falsely.
love is love, right?
When people come on here TEACHING others FALSELY I will call them out & that includes you

 

[BlessedPeace]

Are you part of the problem, or a part of the solution?

Love builds bridges, not walls.

That's very Buddhist. Not Christian though.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Are you part of the problem, or a part of the solution?

Love builds bridges, not walls.

That's very Buddhist. Not Christian though.

What would the Christian version be? (concerning bridges and walls)

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[BlessedPeace]

St. SteVen said:
Are you part of the problem, or a part of the solution?

Love builds bridges, not walls.

What would the Christian version be? (concerning bridges and walls)

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Start with the question, did God build a bridge or an ark?

 

[St. SteVen]

Start with the question, did God build a bridge or an ark?

Love builds arks, not walls. ???

I think...
Love builds bridges, not walls.
works better,

Why can't that be Christian?

1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response)

2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it)

3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church would say it is false)

4. Doesn't align with your personal doctrine (your views differ)

5. YOUR "Bible" says it is false. (other biblical opinions don't matter)

6. It makes you uncomfortable. (therefore it must be wrong)

7. Everyone knows it's false. (except those who believe it)

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[St. SteVen]

Start with the question, did God build a bridge or an ark?

Love builds arks, not bridges?

I may need to find a Buddhist Temple. - LOL

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[BlessedPeace]

Love builds arks, not walls. ???

I think...
Love builds bridges, not walls.
works better,

Why can't that be Christian?

1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response)

2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it)

3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church would say it is false)

4. Doesn't align with your personal doctrine (your views differ)

5. YOUR "Bible" says it is false. (other biblical opinions don't matter)

6. It makes you uncomfortable. (therefore it must be wrong)

7. Everyone knows it's false. (except those who believe it)

]

Nice list.

The actual Bible doesn't comport with the Judd's lyrics however.

 

[St. SteVen]

Nice list.

The actual Bible doesn't complete with the Judd's lyrics however.

Judd's lyrics?

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[St. SteVen]

The actual Bible doesn't comport with the Judd's lyrics however.

The actual Bible? - LOL

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[BlessedPeace]

Judd's lyrics?

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[BlessedPeace]

The actual Bible? - LOL

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Yes. A response to number 5 in your list.

 

[St. SteVen]

Yes. A response to number 5 in your list.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

5. YOUR "Bible" says it is false. (other biblical opinions don't matter)

So...
"Love builds bridges, not walls."
is unbiblical somehow?



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[BlessedPeace]

If the cross were a bridge Universal Christianity would be a Biblical doctrine.

The cross is a barrier that stands in stark contrast to the false idea of universal salvation.

 

[St. SteVen]

If the cross were a bridge Universal Christianity would be a Biblical doctrine.

The cross is a bridge. I gave you an illustration.

The cross is a barrier that stands in stark contrast to the false idea of universal salvation.

Nonsense.
Was the work of the Atonement insufficient in some way?

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

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[BlessedPeace]

The cross is a bridge. I gave you an illustration.


Nonsense.
Was the work of the Atonement insufficient in some way?

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

I didn't say it was insufficient.

 

[St. SteVen]

I didn't say it was insufficient.

Then it was sufficient as the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. Right?

You did say...

The cross is a barrier that stands in stark contrast to the false idea of universal salvation.

How so?
The cross was sufficient as the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

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[BlessedPeace]

Then it was sufficient as the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. Right?

You did say...

How so?
The cross was sufficient as the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

Are all people now Saved?

 

[St. SteVen]

Are all people now Saved?

Technically, yes. Currently, no.
Their salvation has been paid for. Not all have received it yet.

You agree that that the salvation of all has been paid in full, correct?
Or do you believe that the payment of the death penalty was only made for a few?

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

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[Cyd]

Technically, yes. Currently, no.
Their salvation has been paid for. Not all have received it yet.

You agree that that the salvation of all has been paid in full, correct?
Or do you believe that the payment of the death penalty was only made for a few?

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

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How do you explain Christs' words himself using the word "many" not all?
Mark 14:24 (KJV) And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.

John 17:2 (KJV) As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.