Were Adam and Eve the first humans on Earth?

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TheHC

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Why not directly educate Satan to be a spirit that does not tempt people…
An intelligent person has to want God’s education… Jehovah never forces anyone against their Free Will.
…and then create new human beings?
There were issues dealing with rulership that were raised, and are still in the process of getting resolved..
Creating new humans would have not settled those issues, of which all the angels were watching.

Plus, as descendants of Adam & Eve,… if God had done that, then we wouldn’t have existed.
…Or simply eliminate Satan directly
There again, it wouldn’t have settled the issue, if mankind can rule themselves. Remember, God’s entire spirit family was watching.

Isn’t that what tyrants do, just kill the opposition? Resolving the issues, and the outcomes that are reached, sets precedents, and no further questioning of God’s rulership will be allowed.
A lot of wisdom is seen in that way of handling the rebellion.
Maybe not the entire Book of Enoch is canon. Maybe not all of it is equally inspired.
Very reasonable in reaching such a conclusion! I say that, because it’s entire content is not included in the 66-book canon.

Someday, we can personally ask Enoch… He might say, “Hey! I never wrote or said this part!”

Take care, cousin.
 
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An intelligent person has to want God’s education… Jehovah never forces anyone against their Free Will.

There were issues dealing with rulership that were raised, and are still in the process of getting resolved..
Creating new humans would have not settled those issues, of which all the angels were watching.

Plus, as descendants of Adam & Eve,… if God had done that, then we wouldn’t have existed.

There again, it wouldn’t have settled the issue, if mankind can rule themselves. Remember, God’s entire spirit family was watching.

Isn’t that what tyrants do, just kill the opposition? Resolving the issues, and the outcomes that are reached, sets precedents, and no further questioning of God’s rulership will be allowed.
A lot of wisdom is seen in that way of handling the rebellion.
So if the way of educating Satan doesn't work and the way of destroying Satan doesn't work either, then what other methods are there?

Haven't you considered that God chose both ways at the same time?

You seem to be replying to the wrong place, that's another post.
 
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But again this is where it diverges. Nowhere in the OT do we find the spirits of humans leaving their body to become ghosts and to hang around the earth to torment people. This is what is suggested about the Nephilim…but all humans perished in the flood, including the Nephilim. It was their errant fathers who were forced back into the spirit realm where they thereafter had their ability to materialize curtailed.

The fathers of the Nephilim were the fallen angels (the “sons of God” in Genesis 6), and their offspring — the Nephilim — were not human. That’s the point. They were hybrid abominations, a forbidden mixture of divine beings and human women. What we would understand today as genetic abominations.

And that’s why God judged the world with a flood.

“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them.” (Genesis 6:4)

The early Jewish understanding — confirmed in the Book of Enoch, Jubilees, and echoed in 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 — is that when the Nephilim died, their disembodied spirits had no place to go. They weren’t fully human (so not judged like humans), and they weren’t angelic (so not cast to Tartarus like their fathers). They became unclean spirits — what Jesus and the apostles later refer to as demons.

That’s why demons crave bodies.

That’s why they’re “restless.”

That’s why they fear the abyss.

You won’t find a single verse in the Old Testament describing dead humans wandering the earth as tormenting spirits. But you will find plenty of references to unclean spirits in the New Testament — and none of them are called fallen angels.

So if demons aren’t fallen angels, and they aren’t human ghosts, what are they?

1 Enoch 15:8–12

“And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling.”

This puts Genesis 6 into sharper context.
It explains what happened to the Nephilim after the Flood — their bodies died, but their spirits remained. These disembodied Nephilim became what we now call demons: cursed, restless, violent, and bound to the earth until final judgment.

They’re not fallen angels, and they’re not human ghosts.
They are the bastard spirits of a forbidden union — and that’s why Jesus encountered them constantly.
That’s why they fear the Abyss.
And that’s why this passage in Enoch matters — it connects the flood, the origin of demons, and the spiritual war still raging today.

The flood wiped out their bodiesnot their spirits.

And now those spirits roam the earth, angry, defiled, and seeking flesh.

Jesus knew exactly who and what He was casting out.

The early church did too.

It’s only modern theology that decided to “demythologize” what the Bible made clear.