We’re the two witnesses from the past?

[Truth7t7]

Because the entire book of Revelation is a "vision" that God gave to John. It is a prophecy regarding the spiritual attributes and not the carnal worldly view.
It is a KEY book that is used to interpret spiritual things not physical.
It's a code deciphering book.

Jesus and Nicodemus having a conversation about being born again. Nicodemus didn't have the depth of understanding to interpret physical from spiritual.
Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

I think some people are afraid of having their head in the clouds and rather have their feet planted solidly on the ground.
But with God, you have to Come Up Here to see and understand. You have to be willing to open your mind to things we don't fully understand.
This scares a lot of people who only believe in their 5 senses. If I can't touch it, taste it, see it, smell it or hear it, then it isn't real.
But the truth is those 5 senses are the illusion and not the means by which one understands spiritual truth.

Those 5 senses are temporary for a temporary existance in this life. They were created for living in a carnal world.
But the mind and the spirit have no boundaries unless you put chains on them and refuse to let them freely explore...

Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

The book of Revelation is a vision. A dream.
It's like when Joseph dreamed about the sun and moon and stars bowing down to him. It wasn't literal. it was a prophecy, a vision.
One that requires interpretation from beginning to end.
Or consider the dreams of the Butler and the Baker. Interpretation was required.
Josephs visions of 7 lean cattla and 7 fat cattle. Interpretation was required.
And so it is with the book of Revelation. Interpretation is required.


Hugs

I'm Waiting for your symbolic interpretation of the five items listed below?

(Revelation Chapter 11)

1.) Literal bodies that are killed and die

2.) Literal bodies that lay in a Literal street in Jerusalem, where Jesus was crucified

3.) A Literal world celebrating their deaths, exchanging Literal gifts

4.) Literal bodies that stand upon Literal feet,, that are Literally raised to heaven, as their Literal enemies on this earth watch

5.) A Literal Earthquake, that follows the Literal prophets being raised to to heaven

 

[Marty fox]

Because the entire book of Revelation is a "vision" that God gave to John. It is a prophecy regarding the spiritual attributes and not the carnal worldly view.
It is a KEY book that is used to interpret spiritual things not physical.
It's a code deciphering book.

Jesus and Nicodemus having a conversation about being born again. Nicodemus didn't have the depth of understanding to interpret physical from spiritual.
Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

I think some people are afraid of having their head in the clouds and rather have their feet planted solidly on the ground.
But with God, you have to Come Up Here to see and understand. You have to be willing to open your mind to things we don't fully understand.
This scares a lot of people who only believe in their 5 senses. If I can't touch it, taste it, see it, smell it or hear it, then it isn't real.
But the truth is those 5 senses are the illusion and not the means by which one understands spiritual truth.

Those 5 senses are temporary for a temporary existance in this life. They were created for living in a carnal world.
But the mind and the spirit have no boundaries unless you put chains on them and refuse to let them freely explore...

Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

The book of Revelation is a vision. A dream.
It's like when Joseph dreamed about the sun and moon and stars bowing down to him. It wasn't literal. it was a prophecy, a vision.
One that requires interpretation from beginning to end.
Or consider the dreams of the Butler and the Baker. Interpretation was required.
Josephs visions of 7 lean cattla and 7 fat cattle. Interpretation was required.
And so it is with the book of Revelation. Interpretation is required.


Hugs

Amen well said

 

[ewq1938]

The book of Revelation is a vision. A dream.

Wrong, very wrong. It was a vision in the sense that John saw things with his eyes. He was taken to the past and the future to see these things. Some things he saw plainly, some were symbolized like a Hollywood production but he was really there and seeing. This was not a dream. He even wrote things down and brought that back with him. It's how he was able to write the book of Revelation.

 

[quietthinker]

He says he will kill, you reject that Jesus kills. That's the issue here.
Rev 19 shows Jesus killing yet, again, you deny that will happen.

You do not understand the context of figure/ symbol

No, it's the whipping that is the violence. The throwing tables around is intense anger.

I doubt it.

Both are true and things that were choices on his part. I don't deny his peacefulness nor do I deny his anger or violence or killing.

Then you have an unstable Jesus.....schizophrenic?......and an unstable God......one you need to appease because you never know when you're going to cop it.

 

[quietthinker]

In the desert? No. Some saints arose from the graves and went into Jerusalem which excludes Moses because he did not enter the promised land so he was buried far away from that area.

No, not in the desert but rather at the resurrection of Jesus. Matthew 27:52

 

[Ziggy]

If you are speaking about the two witnesses they represent the law and the prophets.

Jerusalem... physical or spiritual?

Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Jhn 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Isa 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

Rev 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Jerusalem is both a physical and a spiritual location. One is where the physical reside, the other is where the spiritual reside.
Jerusalem is the heart of God's city. And all true believers reside there wherever on this planet they may be physically located.

Celebrating and giving eachother gifts.... Read Ezekiel chapter 22.

Raised to heaven, Lifted up:
Zec 9:16 And the LORD their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.

Earthquakes .. distress of nations...

1Ki 19:11
And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
1Ki 19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

Isa 29:6
Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

Things are going to get shook up for sure. Both physically and spiritually speaking.

When all love has left the building.... it will fall.
Man will destroy each other and the world with it.

Expand your thinking.... you'll see things in a different light.
Everything written in the bible is for our spiritual growth.
Every carnal experience in the bible has a spiritual lesson.
Same with life itself, it is both carnal and spiritual.
And it's up to each of us to discern between the two.
There are many layers, many interpretations, layers of understandings.
And the deeper you dig the higher you go.

Don't get stuck in a rut. Put your mind on four wheel drive and explore all the layers.
The bible is for your individual learning and growth from carnally minded to spiritually minded.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Remember, Revelation is a vision and is spiritual prophecy.
It's not intended to be read with a carnal mind.

Hugs

 

[quietthinker]

Use your intellectual honesty and answer the questions below, presented to you a 2nd time

1.) God flooded the world for 40 days/nights, as men, women, and children drowned, only 8 were saved in the ark, is that a fairy tale? (Genesis Chapter 7)

2.) God destroyed all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone from heaven, was that a fairy tale also? (Genesis 19:24-25)

It was Moses who wrote these accounts and God gets held responsible for these happenings as he is for other happenings. Moses saw God as an uber Pharaoh. Do you know what I mean by that?

Just as Moses thought God was responsible so the people thought Moses was responsible.....for not having water, for not having the delicacies they were used to in Egypt and everything else in between.......but was he?

Was God responsible for the Hebrews being bitten by serpents in the desert? Is God responsible for the fires and floods humanity experiences today?....and the starvation......what about whales and dolphins beaching themselves around the world or is an eclipse of the sun by the moon a sign that God is displeased as the Mayan civilisation believed?

....and when Jesus says, 'you have heard it said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth but I say unto you, do not resist an evil man' ... Where do you think they heard it said? It was from Moses. You can check it out in Exodus 21:12-27 .....and if you think it was Moses telling them from his own volition, check the beginning of the chapter, vs 1.

There is much more to be said about this but are you up to hearing it?

 

[ewq1938]

No, not in the desert but rather at the resurrection of Jesus. Matthew 27:52

How could Moses be one of them??

 

[Ziggy]

Wrong, very wrong. It was a vision in the sense that John saw things with his eyes. He was taken to the past and the future to see these things. Some things he saw plainly, some were symbolized like a Hollywood production but he was really there and seeing. This was not a dream. He even wrote things down and brought that back with him. It's how he was able to write the book of Revelation.

Num 12:6
And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

Isa 29:11
And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isa 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isa 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Rev 9:17
And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

Yes John had his mind opened while he was in prison on the aisle of Patmos. He saw with his minds eye what God was showing him.
Same thing that happened to Balaam when he was prophecying to Balak:

Num 24:16 He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:

Or like the dreams Daniel had.

Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

This is what John saw:
Zep 2:3
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.

John was witnessing the Day of the Lord. This was the vision God showed him by his angel.

At what point did John physically leave Patmos?

What does it mean to be "In the Spirit" ?

Col 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

John saw a vision, a prophecy. A mystery.
And an angel even interpreted some things to give us an understanding on how to discern physical from spiritual in the case of the waters.
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Even the waters are symbolic.
Did John see water? Did he record water? Yes he did.
But the symbolism of the water needed to be interpreted for him.
So it is with every detail, every word in thee book of Revelation.

Hugs

 

[quietthinker]

How could Moses be one of them??

Moses was resurrected at some point after his death. I draw that conclusion from him appearing on the Mt of Transfiguration with Elijah....so I guess he was resurrected well before those who were resurrected at and with the resurrection of Jesus.

 

[ewq1938]

You do not understand the context of figure/ symbol

No, you.

I doubt it.

Joh 2:13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
Joh 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
Joh 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

Then you have an unstable Jesus.....schizophrenic?......and an unstable God......one you need to appease because you never know when you're going to cop it.

Unstable is not accepting everything written about Jesus.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

 

[quietthinker]

And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Swords are carried in the hand not the mouth. How then are we to understand the sword in the mouth metaphor? Isn't it the word of truth?

 

[Truth7t7]

It was Moses who wrote these accounts and God gets held responsible for these happenings as he is for other happenings. Moses saw God as an uber Pharaoh. Do you know what I mean by that?

Just as Moses thought God was responsible so the people thought Moses was responsible.....for not having water, for not having the delicacies they were used to in Egypt and everything else in between.......but was he?

Was God responsible for the Hebrews being bitten by serpents in the desert? Is God responsible for the fires and floods humanity experiences today?....and the starvation......what about whales and dolphins beaching themselves around the world or is an eclipse of the sun by the moon a sign that God is displeased as the Mayan civilisation believed?

....and when Jesus says, 'you have heard it said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth but I say unto you, do not resist an evil man' ... Where do you think they heard it said? It was from Moses. You can check it out in Exodus 21:12-27 .....and if you think it was Moses telling them from his own volition, check the beginning of the chapter, vs 1.

There is much more to be said about this but are you up to hearing it?

You didn't answer the questions below, you danced around them

Did the events seen below literally take place, yes/no, waiting?

1.) God flooded the world for 40 days/nights, as men, women, and children drowned, only 8 were saved in the ark, is that a fairy tale? (Genesis Chapter 7)

2.) God destroyed all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone from heaven, was that a fairy tale also? (Genesis 19:24-25)

 

[quietthinker]

You didn't answer the questions below, you danced around them

Did the events seen below literally take place, yes/no, waiting?

1.) God flooded the world for 40 days/nights, as men, women, and children drowned, only 8 were saved in the ark, is that a fairy tale? (Genesis Chapter 7)

2.) God destroyed all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone from heaven, was that a fairy tale also? (Genesis 19:24-25)

You sound like you consider yourself some sort of a judge with your demands. If you are incapable of reading between the lines of what I've written and drawing an accurate conclusion, how will you ever read between the lines of what Moses wrote?

 

[Truth7t7]

You sound like you consider yourself some sort of a judge with your demands. If you are incapable of reading between the lines of what I've written and drawing an accurate conclusion, how will you ever read between the lines of what Moses wrote?

Again, You didn't answer the questions below, you danced around them

Did the events seen below literally take place, yes/no, waiting?

1.) God flooded the world for 40 days/nights, as men, women, and children drowned, only 8 were saved in the ark, is that a fairy tale? (Genesis Chapter 7)

2.) God destroyed all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone from heaven, was that a fairy tale also? (Genesis 19:24-25)

 

[Earburner]

They are not in heaven with their mortal flesh bodies.

Since Enoch and Elijah are of the OC, the names of their lives of living were written in "a book of remembrance" before God, but never did they receive the Promise of God's Holy Spirit (white robe), until the shedding of the blood of the Lord Jesus. Malachi 3:16.

Therefore, until they were given the Gift of God's Holy Spirit, they had no hope of existence of any kind.
All of such, who were of faith then, are seen as being "under the altar" of the OC, symbolically crying to God for vengeance against their lives of testimony.
Rev. 6:9-11.

Only after the death and the resurrection of Jesus, was the permanent indwelling of God's Gift of His Holy Spirit made available to everyone.
As their names were then written in the "book of remembrance", ever since Pentecost, they are now at rest, having their names now written in the "book of Life", who is Jesus. All are still waiting, but are now in Jesus.
In that Day of His visible and Glorious return in Immortality, He shall bring them with Him on that day, for the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up TOGETHER WITH THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thes. 4:16-18.

 

[Marty fox]

Num 12:6
And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

Isa 29:11
And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isa 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isa 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Rev 9:17
And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

Yes John had his mind opened while he was in prison on the aisle of Patmos. He saw with his minds eye what God was showing him.
Same thing that happened to Balaam when he was prophecying to Balak:

Num 24:16 He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:

Or like the dreams Daniel had.

Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

This is what John saw:
Zep 2:3
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.

John was witnessing the Day of the Lord. This was the vision God showed him by his angel.

At what point did John physically leave Patmos?

What does it mean to be "In the Spirit" ?

Col 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

John saw a vision, a prophecy. A mystery.
And an angel even interpreted some things to give us an understanding on how to discern physical from spiritual in the case of the waters.
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Even the waters are symbolic.
Did John see water? Did he record water? Yes he did.
But the symbolism of the water needed to be interpreted for him.
So it is with every detail, every word in thee book of Revelation.

Hugs

Great post thanks

 

[Marty fox]

If you are speaking about the two witnesses they represent the law and the prophets.

Jerusalem... physical or spiritual?

Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Jhn 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Isa 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

Rev 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Jerusalem is both a physical and a spiritual location. One is where the physical reside, the other is where the spiritual reside.
Jerusalem is the heart of God's city. And all true believers reside there wherever on this planet they may be physically located.

Celebrating and giving eachother gifts.... Read Ezekiel chapter 22.

Raised to heaven, Lifted up:
Zec 9:16 And the LORD their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.

Earthquakes .. distress of nations...

1Ki 19:11
And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
1Ki 19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

Isa 29:6
Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

Things are going to get shook up for sure. Both physically and spiritually speaking.

When all love has left the building.... it will fall.
Man will destroy each other and the world with it.

Expand your thinking.... you'll see things in a different light.
Everything written in the bible is for our spiritual growth.
Every carnal experience in the bible has a spiritual lesson.
Same with life itself, it is both carnal and spiritual.
And it's up to each of us to discern between the two.
There are many layers, many interpretations, layers of understandings.
And the deeper you dig the higher you go.

Don't get stuck in a rut. Put your mind on four wheel drive and explore all the layers.
The bible is for your individual learning and growth from carnally minded to spiritually minded.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Remember, Revelation is a vision and is spiritual prophecy.
It's not intended to be read with a carnal mind.

Hugs

Yes amen fantastic post this is what I did awhile ago and it changed my view of revelation

 

[David in NJ]

Since Enoch and Elijah are of the OC, the names of their lives of living were written in "a book of remembrance" before God, but never did they receive the Promise of God's Holy Spirit (white robe), until the shedding of the blood of the Lord Jesus. Malachi 3:16.

Therefore, until they were given the Gift of God's Holy Spirit, they had no hope of existence of any kind.
All of such, who were of faith then, are seen as being "under the altar" of the OC, symbolically crying to God for vengeance against their lives of testimony.
Rev. 6:9-11.

Only after the death and the resurrection of Jesus, was the permanent indwelling of God's Gift of His Holy Spirit made available to everyone.
As their names were then written in the "book of remembrance", ever since Pentecost, they are now at rest, having their names now written in the "book of Life", who is Jesus. All are still waiting, but are now in Jesus.
In that Day of His visible and Glorious return in Immortality, He shall bring them with Him on that day, for the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up TOGETHER WITH THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thes. 4:16-18.

Unlearn what you have been taught.

Allow the Truth to bring Light & Understanding.

Daniel ch12
1“At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
Some to everlasting life,
Some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3Those who are wise shall shine
Like the brightness of the firmament,
And those who turn many to righteousness
Like the stars forever and ever.

 

[Truth7t7]

Unlearn what you have been taught.

Allow the Truth to bring Light & Understanding.

Daniel ch12
1“At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
Some to everlasting life,
Some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3Those who are wise shall shine
Like the brightness of the firmament,
And those who turn many to righteousness
Like the stars forever and ever.

What's your interpretation of Daniel 12:1-3?