There is only one true church

[ElieG12]

No - those would be quasi-Christian groups.

Christianity is Trinitarian by definition and has been so from the beginning. . . .

By whose definition? By the Trinitarians'?
From which "beginning"?

1 John 3:8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.

 

[Keiw]

I believe you. You probably did say it. Just not on this thread.

None the less whether you or I believe that Mary sinned or didn't sin, it doesn't affect our salvation. I believe that something pure and sinless (Jesus) cannot be born from something impure and sinful (Mary).

Mary

And yet he was. Mary was righteous like Daniel, Abraham, etc= all sinners.

 

[RedFan]

And yet he was. Mary was righteous like Daniel, Abraham, etc= all sinners.

Augustine didn't think Mary was without original sin. In Vol 2 of his Exposition of the Psalms, he states:

“To put it briefly: Mary, descended from Adam, died because of sin. Adam died because of sin, and the Lord’s flesh, derived from Mary, died to abolish sins.” Expositions of the Psalms p. 62.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Odd YOU should say that because I see nothing errant in what amigo believes

Very sad.
My condolences . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Slow down . lets screech the brakes . The last time i checked i aint running for the office of pope nor am i one .
YOU need to examine your own men friend .
Their fruits are rotted to the core as they pump out this interfaith lie of darkness
ITS NOT ME SAYING the christain truth is no better than the muslim or any other religoin .
ITS NOT me telling people that even athiest that DENIED JESUS The CHRIST just cause they drove a kid to church
MEANS SOMEHOW THEY in heaven . THAT AINT ME friend . ITS THE RCC and A HECK OF LOT OF THE PROTESTANT realm too .
YOU ALL are the ones buying a lie that has completely trod CHRIST under foot .
Not i my friend . Not i . i dont give out false hope , another false love gospel that cannot save one soul .
I aint the one standing and TRODING CHRIST under foot in order to attain what i believe will usher in world peace .
Cause do i got news for them who do this . THEY aint gonna ever attain their beloved so called world peace n safety
ONLY THIS , SUDDEN destruction from above from THE VERY CHRIST they have trod under foot
in order to MERGE The religoins as one . we better ALL WATCH OUT and we had better all TAKE HEED
cause many decievers abound just about everywhere now .

As usual – your garbled grammar and atrocious spelling make it impossible to figure out what you’re saying.
All I can make out here is that you hate Christ’s pilgrim Church.

Good luck with that . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

As usual – your garbled grammar and atrocious spelling make it impossible to figure out what you’re saying.
All I can make out here is that you hate Christ’s pilgrim Church.

Good luck with that . . .

Its not me holding onto winds of vainity my friend . I aint the one believing this interfaith
this path that has led and will lead all right into only greater darkness .
It aint me up there saying that the christain truth is no better than the muslims or any other religoins .
That is interfaith doing that buddy . This social inclusive justice interfaith go spell IS NO GOSPEL at all
by the work of satan it has come to lead all to the one place he desires man to be , BURNING WITH HIM .
but you all think its love and loving . OH no sir its a lie that has denied JESUS THE CHRIST .

 

[Ritajanice]

Christ is the head of the church.

The problem with that is.

All the different denominations think they are the true church of Christ.

It’s a merry go round of bat the ball....a pointless exercise, just a barrage of personal insults ,batted back and forth, nothing fruitful or edifying in any of that I’m afraid.
Imo.

 

[BreadOfLife]

By whose definition? By the Trinitarians'?
From which "beginning"?

By the Word of God.
The First century, when the Godhead was revealed in Scripture.

The Father is God
Eph. 4:6, Psalm 68:5, Mal. 2:10, 2 Cor. 1:3-4, John 3:16, John 8:41, 1 Thess. 3:13

The Son is God
Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6, Matt. 4:7, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 20:28, 2 Corinthians 4:4, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Titus 2:13

 

[amigo de christo]

Christ is the head of the church.

The problem with that is.

All the different denominations think they are the true church of Christ.

It’s a merry go round of bat the ball.
Imo.

Its a merry go round all right .
Most now no longer even hold CHRIST as the head . but sure seem to like to say HE is the head of their church
and that their church is the way .
Oh its deeper than what appears sister .
IF CHRIST is truly the one we have submitted too , TELL ME why would we FIGHT AGAINST his own teachings
and exalt men , men who love flattering titles , titles even JESUS said to call no man .
Some places might have existed for a long , long time , BUT IT SURE DONT MEAN THEY Even HONOR THE HEAD
at all . rather they honor men who decieve them .

 

[Ritajanice]

As usual – your garbled grammar and atrocious spelling make it impossible to figure out whatyou’re saying.
All I can make out here is that you hate Christ’s pilgrim Church.

Good luck with that . . .

RJ says Is this edifying to the church of Christ..very sad to see,imo.

 

[amigo de christo]

Christ is the head of the church.

The problem with that is.

All the different denominations think they are the true church of Christ.

It’s a merry go round of bat the ball....a pointless exercise, just a barrage of personal insults ,batted back and forth, nothing fruitful or edifying in any of that I’m afraid.
Imo.

I got a reminder dear sister , one in which i am sure you will agree .
WHO do the sheep HEED , WHOSE voice , whose doctrine .
And if any stands to speak contrary TO that voice , HIS doctrine , His words
well the sheep wont hear them . And sure i know folks can step into a dissumulation at times
and slip , BUT MARK MY WORDS , THE KING SHEPARD GONNA PULL THEM OUT of that mess .
And he will send men to remind and to help do so too . ITS ALL the working of that one TRUE and HOLY SPIRIT
of the one TRUE KING of kings , OF the ONE TRUE GOD , that sure DOES KNOW how to KEEP HIS SHEEP . enjoy THAT
cause HE ALONE IS THE ONLY ONE WE CANTRUST IN .

 

[amigo de christo]

As usual – your garbled grammar and atrocious spelling make it impossible to figure out whatyou’re saying.
All I can make out here is that you hate Christ’s pilgrim Church.

Good luck with that . . .

RJ says Is this edifying to the church of Christ..very sad to see,imo.

Sister what that man said about me , Its almost love speech next to what i have been called and accused of .
The words and false accusations of men cannot sway me , nor cause me to hate them .
What i do , i do by the grace of GOD who worketh that within me , for the sake of all peoples .
And though its true i be hated , mocked , despised and seen as a hater
Always remember these words . marvel not if the world hate you , KNOW that it hated me first
IF they have called the master of the house beelzebub how much more shall they call you .
AND .
BLESS those who persecute you , bless and curse them not . But always remember , NEVER CONFORM to their dark ways
rather expose it . DO all for the good of others and that do include correction .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I understand councils--They didn't know truth, Because satan infiltrated long before the councils were held. thus tried to find it but failed by allowing a pagan false god worshipping king( Constantine) to run the council in 381 ce.
The holy spirit is not God--The only spot in Gods bible where they twist it is when God sent the holy spirit to ask a question of one that God asked and God was seeking the answer. That is how they lied to God, the answer went back to God. The holy spirit was a go between.

Funny you should say that because the Canon of Scripture was declared by the Councils.
Do you actually believe that it was Satan who declared the Canon?

As for Constantine – he was DEAD by the year 337, so he couldn’t have had anything to do with the Council of Constantinople in 381. He summoned the Bishops for the Council of Nicaea in 325 – but did not “run” it.

Get your “facts” straight . . .

 

[Ritajanice]

@amigo de christo said.

Sister what that man said about me , Its almost love speech next to what i have been called and accused of


RJ says, it’s not love speech, let’s just pray together that the Lord opens their heart ,to truly know the Love Of Jesus in their heart..sadly their words don’t represent the church of Jesus, they represent their own heart and what’s in it.....

 

[BreadOfLife]

Its not me holding onto winds of vainity my friend . I aint the one believing this interfaith
this path that has led and will lead all right into only greater darkness .
It aint me up there saying that the christain truth is no better than the muslims or any other religoins .
That is interfaith doing that buddy . This social inclusive justice interfaith go spell IS NO GOSPEL at all
by the work of satan it has come to lead all to the one place he desires man to be , BURNING WITH HIM .
but you all think its love and loving . OH no sir its a lie that has denied JESUS THE CHRIST .

Rant on, my illiterate friend.

I have NO idea what you’re trying to say . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

Funny you should say that because the Canon of Scripture was declared by the Councils.
Do you actually believe that it was Satan who declared the Canon?

As for Constantine – he was DEAD by the year 337, so he couldn’t have had anything to do with the Council of Constantinople in 381. He summoned the Bishops for the Council of Nicaea in 325 – but did not “run” it.

Get your “facts” straight . . .

Funny that even the unbelieving jews still had torah and still claimed to follow it and to hear it .
YET THEY DID NOT .
so mavel not if men can put together a true canon
and yet EVEN said place CONTRADICTS said canon .
You hold to cliams that just cause your so called place brought the scrips together
MAKES IT THE PLACE . no sir . EVEN THE JEWS HELD TORAH , but did not know torah nor whom it was to lead THEM TOO .
SO preach away all day about how your men so called gave us the canon .
GOD did this . And man may have faithfully recopied it , but it dont mean they FOLLOWED GOD or even teach
the things HE did . THEY TWIST STUFF . you just rest in the fact and try and claim your church is the oldest
and even that it came of peter . YET cannot see that peter himself would have rebuked your own popes .
Sorry friend , but here is a newflash and this newsflash i give not to just catholics
but to all the protestant realm too . SYSTEMS can become corrupted . ALWAYS test all men
and dont hold for granted that just cause you sit in a church that might have creeds and might claim
itself the church of GOD , DONT MEAN IT IS at all . many can quaote things and yet LIVE IN OPPOSITION to the very
truths they do say and teach and worse even teach false things contrary to the very GOD and scriptures
THEY Claim they know and follow . MEN are not infallible . NO SYSTEM IS
GOD IS , and its TIME WE GOT INTO the BIBLE for ourselves too .

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo said.

Sister what that man said about me , Its almost love speech next to what i have been called and accused of


RJ says, it’s not love speech, let’s just pray together that the Lord opens their heart ,to truly know the Love Of Jesus in their heart..sadly their words don’t represent the church of Jesus, they represent their own heart and what’s in it.....

well its not really love speech sister , its hate . but i was simply saying i have BY FAR experienced much worse .
YET by grace here i am still marching on in the LORD . JESUS HAS THE SHEEP
and UNTO HE ALONE shall we heed . Now any voice must be tested .
and if said writing , said voice , said rules , said doctrine CONTRADICTS HIM , its bankrupt and
the lambs shall not feed upon it .

 

[amigo de christo]

Rant on, my illiterate friend.

I have NO idea what you’re trying to say . . .

Come and let us see what this babbler has to say . They saw paul as a babbler too my friend .
But it sure didnt stop him from speaking now did it . words are but words .
By the grace of GOD one thing i also do know is this . Words are but words
and actions will soon follow that will actually led to hardcore persecution against men like me , against the true lambs .
MY LORD has me , AND I FEAR NOT what is or what is to come against me . THEY wont silence my mouth
and if they kill me , NO WORRIES GOD has sheep doing this work as well .
Truth is whether i live or die i am HIS and have all hope . To depart and be with HIM , TO ME IS FAR greater
but to remain is only for the good of the peoples who i do love and will correct
and will expose the works of men gone wrong .
SO now that you understand clearly that by grace i am even prepared to die
for His cause , guess you know , By that same grace , cant you or any man sway me or convince
me to do a thing contrary to GOD . i expose harlots i dont sit under them .
I pray for you my friend . my desire is good for you my friend . ITS why i do warn you my friend .

 

[Rita]

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