THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Status
Not open for further replies.

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,889
50,657
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yes, seek after Jesus. He died for you so that you could have eternal life with Him.
:Happy: :Happy: :Happy: :Happy: :Happy: :Happy: :Happy: and
always remember SEEK after JESUS but not after jesus as even many wihtin christendom now seek after jesus
and have naught to do with JESUS .
How does one know if what JESUS it is they really do love . a hint , IF YA HATE HIS WORDS , WELL IT AINT JESUS .
never forget satan and his men can USE the name of JESUS and yet , oh and yet how they preach a contrary jesus .
please do not be suprised at this , do not marvel . for satan can indeed appear as even an angel of light
so too can his minstirs appear as men of righteousness and baby o baby they gonna preach a sin accepting unbelief
accepting jesus to many and many will buy it , for who so ever loveth the flesh , loveth a lie that feedeth the flesh .
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,513
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hey!!! Stick around.
I don’t want to go back and forth with people much these days. Growing older there are sometimes where people just need to be left to their own choices. If they seek for truth I believe God will help them find it. If people want to revolve the ever revolving revolver of whether the trinity is real or not, so be it. It doesn’t make anyone more closer to God than the next person. I don’t really feel as well as I did when I younger, sometimes I feel as though I’m dying though for whatever reason Yahavah keeps me alive. I’m okay with that: working a job in itself is tough alone let alone dealing with people who just will continue to ever go round this topic itself. I find it silly. I’ve already done a good Bible study anyone can look up “Who is the Word of life, the Word of God.”
 

David in NJ

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2021
11,796
6,232
113
49
Denville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yeah I should, I ran into the capitalization police not too long again and it wasnt fun, I sometimes hit the inner pause butter for things I might typically do lol.

YER SISTA' Verilysml

Sorry, I somehow concealed my gender and did not mean to, too many buttons for me
oops - my SISTA = got it = ty
 

Lizbeth

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2022
4,373
5,825
113
67
Ontario, Canada
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
There isn't a single inference in Scripture to support the claim that Jesus is/was God, or that Jesus (or Christ) were/are part of some nonsensical 3=1 "trinity". Even the RCC, the inventors of the pagan "trinity" admit that.

“Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture ... But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, AS THE TRINITY, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels,”
— (Assumption of Mary, Life magazine, Oct 30, 1950, p. 51)

Even the passage you've cited does NOT say that, if properly translated and understood. It should be self-evident that being in the form or image/likeness of another unequivocally means that there are two SEPARATE individuals to compare, just as it should be obvious that God doesn't need to humble Himself nor can God be killed, nor is God obedient to anyone else, etc. And how could anyone (including God Himself) be exalted higher than The Most High God?

Philippians 2:5-11
2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
2:6 Who, being in the likeness of God, thought it not correct to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made into the likeness of men:
2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and GIVEN him a name which is above every name:
2:10 That at the name of the Saviour every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in Earth, and [things] under the earth;
2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Christ Jesus [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Compare with:

Colossians 1:12-15
1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, Which hath made us meet to be sharers of the inheritance of the holy people in Light:
1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into The Kingdom of His dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
It's all over the scriptures FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE IT. It's hid to everyone else though...especially to those who make themselves enemies of God and keep on batting for the wrong team. Mind boggling.
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,889
50,657
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Have you ever scramble your word spelling , on purpose, for the spelling police - i have
i just type fast . but at times i do bring me own words , as i did the other day .
When i wrote I GARWONTEE ya that . Ol amigo has his own langague at times . but i am sure it can be understood .
 

Ritajanice

Born-Again
Mar 9, 2023
13,112
7,440
113
United Kingdom
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
I forgot to mention ,if you quote me and I don’t answer, it’s because I have quite a few on this thread on ignore..thought I would politely let you know ,in case you were wondering.

Peace perfect peace @Aunty Jane ..I don’t have you on ignore, I look forward to reading your posts, I bet you never thought you’d be hearing that from me..maturity in Christ is a wonderful thing.
 

IronMaiden

Well-Known Member
Nov 4, 2024
413
513
93
USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
It's all over the scriptures FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE IT. It's hid to everyone else though...especially to those who make themselves enemies of God and keep on batting for the wrong team. Mind boggling.
Yeah, it’s really sad. Some will never get on board with the simple Truth of the Gospel.
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,889
50,657
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Well i have none on ignore . for good reason too .
But many sure put me on ignore and fast . Guess they dont realize it makes it only easier for me
to speak truth and to expose their errrors without the constant battle .
 

Ritajanice

Born-Again
Mar 9, 2023
13,112
7,440
113
United Kingdom
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Do nice people who do not believe that Yeshua was not a God go to Hell?
YES THEY DO!!! SIZZLE!!!! SIZZLE!!!!
You have no idea who is going to hell only God knows that.

I ain’t one of them..Praise God.

Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever..a Living seed..in my heart/spirit.
 

Taken

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2018
27,358
14,801
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Or maybe it is you who has fallen for the lies of the deciever (Satan), and so you can't see the truth?

1 John 2:22
(22) Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.​

By denying that Jesus is an individual living being,

No one is Denying …God on Earth is a Son to God and God In Heaven IS a Father to Jesus.

Plainly Scripture teaches When Jesus was Sent into the world; God would be A Father to Him…and He would be to God A Son.

Heb 1:
[5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?


Plainly Scripture teaches God PURPOSED in Himself to Reveal Mysteries.

Eph 1:
[9] Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:


Plainly Scripture teaches God said He would Send Forth His Word OUT of His Mouth …And That Holy Thing (Gods Word) Would Accomplish Gods Works and THEN BE Called the Son of God.

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.


Plainly Scripture teaches when God Sends forth His Word out of His Mouth, His Word Continues To Remain IN God.

John 14:
[10] Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
[11] Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.


Plainly Scriptures Teaches God PREPARED a body for WHEN He would Send His Word to Earth.

Heb 10:
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

John 16:
[28] I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.


Plainly Scripture Teaches Jesus IS the Word of God.

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Plainly Scripture Teaches Gods Word Accomplished what God Sent His Word “IN The Likeness AS A Man” to do.

John 19:
[28] After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

Phil 2:
[8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.



Is YOUR word that comes forth out from you… (that you call “keithr”) independently someone other than YOU?

Glory to God,
Taken
 

Grailhunter

Well-Known Member
Jun 19, 2019
12,390
5,722
113
67
FARMINGTON
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I don’t want to go back and forth with people much these days. Growing older there are sometimes where people just need to be left to their own choices. If they seek for truth I believe God will help them find it. If people want to revolve the ever revolving revolver of whether the trinity is real or not, so be it. It doesn’t make anyone more closer to God than the next person. I don’t really feel as well as I did when I younger, sometimes I feel as though I’m dying though for whatever reason Yahavah keeps me alive. I’m okay with that: working a job in itself is tough alone let alone dealing with people who just will continue to ever go round this topic itself. I find it silly. I’ve already done a good Bible study anyone can look up “Who is the Word of life, the Word of God.”

Going to Heaven is not a matter of believing that there are three Gods or that they somehow hit the blender and are now one. We can only get so close to understanding the Trinity.

The big issue is God the Father and God the Son working together and interacting in the Gospels….If you do not believe in Father and Son…Are they talking to themselves or referring to themselves…..The Father is Greater than I......Or that I am greater than myself..The Gospels just do not read like that. God the Father saying from a voice above that He was well pleased with Yeshua….It would a God saying that He was pleased with Himself.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Scott Downey

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,889
50,657
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
It's all over the scriptures FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE IT. It's hid to everyone else though...especially to those who make themselves enemies of God and keep on batting for the wrong team. Mind boggling.
IT sure is sister . Remember these words too . They are liken unto it
having eyes but see not , having ears but hear not . Man is blind but believes he sees and thus his sin remains .
MANY HOLLER I SEE , I SEE , but are the blind leading or the blind heeding THE BLIND .
SIE carnal mind is enmity with GOD . and many follow a love of the world which feeds the carnal mind
and though they believe its of GOD they cannot see it has led them to love another god
and into all out rebellion against THE GOD . many love a god that feeds their flesh and while it promises them life
it has led them to the lowest dungeones of darkness and that bottom of that pit will open and all will fall
into its hole in an day and an hour they know not . THINKING and believing this god they so love
will give the paradise but have no idea it is leading them to the bowels of hell and fiery fire .
satan is a clever one sister and he sure knows how to allure man .
And the seers who saywe SEE and yet DENIED CHRIST , see only what it shows them and giveth them to see . HE BE A Liar SISTER
And desires the death of all but behaves as though HE THEY BEST SIN LOVING FRIEND .
 
Status
Not open for further replies.