THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[Marvelloustime]

JESUS is the way the life and the TRUTH .
if a man believeth not HE is the CHRIST , tell me rita HOW IS THE TRUTH WITHIN THEM .
HOW IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD WHO TESTIFIED OF THE SON WHO IS THE TRUTH in them rita .
IF that which ye have heard from the beginning shall REMAIN IN YOU then you shall continue in the SON , in the FATHER rita .
EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH , as HE IS TRUTH as hIS WORD IS TRUTH and as HIS WORDS are truth .
NO LIE COMETH OF GOD . its bible time sistah . its time we flee the pulpits and thoughts of contrary men and of the flesh .

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

Sistah by grace i already know we must be born again . I ALSO know that many who cliam to be ARE NOT .
even if they can quoate how one is born again .

We don’t know who is Born Again,only God knows their heart and where it is at.

I just post what I believe he speaks through me..that’s it..we are not to judge who is Born Again..nothing wrong in asking questions..

@amigo de christo thats how we all learn..I’m not saying Paul was a man of God of course he was..what I’m saying is...he spoke many things of God and God led him.but, I’m just saying there is nowhere In the word that says he was Born Again.you believe he was ...I must stand on scripture not man’s word.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Sistah by grace i already know we must be born again . I ALSO know that many who cliam to be ARE NOT .
even if they can quoate how one is born again .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

We must be Born Again to believe in Jesus..because we believe by the gift of supernatural faith that was delivered to our spirit when it became Born Again.human belief is not enough to believe in the Name Of Jesus..we believe in our spirit that Jesus is Lord because we were gifted supernatural faith in our spirit, when it was Born Of The Spirit.

so explain again HOW paul was not born again . You are twisting things sister
and then when you have zero answers all you do is keep falling back on repeated phrases of which i already know .
NOW you THE ONE WHO SAID paul , james , john were not born again .
TIME for TRUTH TELLING .
you want to beleive that cause some things they wrote CONTRADICT what you want so much to beleive .
Now if i didnt love ya i would not have spoken the truth so clearly to ya .
SEEMS to me like TRUTH to you is what you desire to be TRUTH and if you dont like it , well
then it dont apply to the born again . You knows i loves ya so dont get so upset about that simple fact .

 

[Marvelloustime]

I am answering you . if a man came and said hail satan and that he was born again and he quoated to verbatum
on what JESUS himself had said was how one was born again , JUST cause he can quoate
its by the SPIRT , are you gonna then say OH OKAY HE IS BORN AGAIN . I DIDNT THINK SO .
The born again BELEIVE JESUS TO BE THE CHRIST and they dont contradict HIS WORDS . THE SPIRIT
by which we are born again COMETH OF GOD , OF CHRIST , IS TRUTH and will not contradict TRUTH .
that means HIS WORDS cause HIS WORDS BE TRUTH .
now before you hammer me with how folks can get caught up in dissumlations at times , I KNOW That .
We correct that too . Paul and every other apostel of Christ , were for sure born again .
EVEN the very letters they left us to read can PROVE IT .
TRUTH rita . For this reason was i born , for this cause came i into the world
to TESTIFY OF THE TRUTH , all who are of the TRUTH hear my voice . they the born again rita .
AND NO LIE IS OF THE TRUTH ETIHER . TRUTH IS TRUTH and theTRUTH IS that every WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH .
that very bible that most twist and omit unto their own destruction , WELL THE TRUTH WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT .
We better get a nose full of bible sister and fast .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

We don’t know who is Born Again,only God knows their heart and where it is at.

Rather odd , john said otherwise . The born again HAVE ETERNAL LIFE rita .
But since we are on the subject that YOU SAY we cannot know
THEN HOW COME YOU KNOW THAT PUAL AND JOHN AND JAMES WERE NOT BORN AGAIN .
you doing as you always do , YOU contradicting your own self . now ponder and pray about this please
as i desire only good for you .

 

[amigo de christo]

We don’t know who is Born Again,only God knows their heart and where it is at.

dont ya find that rather odd rita . you go from saying PAUL , JOHN , james WERE NOT BORN AGAIN
to all of a sudden saying we cannot KNOW who is . BUT MAN you were very fast to say THEY WERE NOT .
Rita you would marvel at how many times even in day i watch you contradict yourself . You are loved
and i am very and highly concerned and worried for you .

 

[Marvelloustime]

dont ya find that rather odd rita . you go from saying PAUL , JOHN , james WERE NOT BORN AGAIN
to all of a sudden saying we cannot KNOW who is . BUT MAN you were very fast to say THEY WERE NOT .
Rita you would marvel at how many times even in day i watch you contradict yourself . You are loved
and i am very and highly concerned and worried for you .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Rather odd , john said otherwise . The born again HAVE ETERNAL LIFE rita .
But since we are on the subject that YOU SAY we cannot know
THEN HOW COME YOU KNOW THAT PUAL AND JOHN AND JAMES WERE NOT BORN AGAIN .
you doing as you always do , YOU contradicting your own self . now ponder and pray about this please
as i desire only good for you .

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

so explain again HOW paul was not born again . You are twisting things sister
and then when you have zero answers all you do is keep falling back on repeated phrases of which i already know .
NOW you THE ONE WHO SAID paul , james , john were not born again .
TIME for TRUTH TELLING .
you want to beleive that cause some things they wrote CONTRADICT what you want so much to beleive .
Now if i didnt love ya i would not have spoken the truth so clearly to ya .
SEEMS to me like TRUTH to you is what you desire to be TRUTH and if you dont like it , well
then it dont apply to the born again . You knows i loves ya so dont get so upset about that simple fact .

I don’t have to explain anything to you ,it is not written that Paul , John ,were Born Again , I’m not falling back on anything..I stand on God’s word and rebuke yours..you keep voicing that John, Paul are Born Again ,no scripture to back up your claims.

 

[JLB]

The Trinitarian Doctrine, which you defend, comes from the Council of Nicaea.

I posted scripture.

You denied the truth of the scripture.


there is nothing more to discuss when you mistake scripture for some council.


Have a nice life.

 

[Marvelloustime]

I don’t have to explain anything to you ,it is not written that Paul , John ,were Born Again , I’m not falling back on anything..I stand on God’s word and rebuke yours..you keep voicing that John, Paul are Born Again ,no scripture to back up your claims.

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

dont ya find that rather odd rita . you go from saying PAUL , JOHN , james WERE NOT BORN AGAIN
to all of a sudden saying we cannot KNOW who is . BUT MAN you were very fast to say THEY WERE NOT .
Rita you would marvel at how many times even in day i watch you contradict yourself . You are loved
and i am very and highly concerned and worried for you .

I’m talking about today, we don’t know the Born again Of today.

John,Paul, it is not written that they were Born Again..therefore your opinions and others opinions doesn’t make it so.

Nothing in scripture that says that they were Born Again.therefore I rebuke your claims saying that they were.and will continue to do so, do not add your words to Gods word, he won’t stand for it.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Ok Aunty...but didn’t he perform miracles in his Father’s Nane?

How could he have done that without the empowerment of the Spirit?

Do you not believe that the Spirit of his Father anointed him with great power?

How do you believe Jesus was able to do what he performed on earth, what about those loaves in a basket,

• Then he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed them, and brake, and gave to the disciples to set before the multitude. And they did eat, and were all filled: and there was taken up of fragments that remained to them twelve baskets.

didn’t he also turn water into wine, how could he have done that?
Thank you for your post.,enjoyed the read.

Short commentary .

The miracle is told of in John 2:1-11. Jesus, his mother, and his disciples attend a wedding in the village of Cana. When the wine runs out at the feast, Jesus turns water into wine, thus demonstrating his divinity to his disciples.

Yes…it was at his baptism at the age of 30 that he received the power of holy spirit….before that time he was without such power. His first miracle was turning the water into wine.

 

[JLB]

Any translation that alters original word meanings is an erroneous translation……the KJV is the major culprit. It’s bias is clearly evident when compared to later translations in modern English and in keeping with more up to date studies in linguistics. It’s an extinct dinosaur in this day and age.

I can see why the KJV ONLY crowd don’t want to let it go……it backs up all their errors. Anyone would think that the Bible was written in archaic English…..but it is the work of men…and flawed trinitarians to boot.

In the first century, there was no trinity…it developed gradually from the time of the early “church fathers”.

Time is the devil’s greatest weapon, coupled with the human propensity to repeat the same mistakes generation after generation. He counts on the flaws in our nature and uses them against us….but only if we let him.

Do you understand that the Day of the LORD YHWH is also called the Day of Christ?


For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 1 Thessalonians 5:2


Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-2

 

[Ritajanice]

Rather odd , john said otherwise . The born again HAVE ETERNAL LIFE rita .
But since we are on the subject that YOU SAY we cannot know
THEN HOW COME YOU KNOW THAT PUAL AND JOHN AND JAMES WERE NOT BORN AGAIN .
you doing as you always do , YOU contradicting your own self .

Show me @amigo de christo ..where I contradicted Gods word..I’m not bothered if I contradict my self...you show me where I contradicted the word of God?

Jesus was the Son Of God, you and others say he is God, no scripture to support such a claim.

now ponder and pray about this please
as i desire only good for you .

I did not say I knew...I said it is not written that they were Born Again.

Do not twist my words to say what you want them to say.

Gods word does not say they were Born Again ..your trying to seduce with your words ain’t happening.

I believe the word of God..not your words...

 

[Marvelloustime]

I don’t have to explain anything to you ,it is not written that Paul , John ,were Born Again , I’m not falling back on anything..I stand on God’s word and rebuke yours..you keep voicing that John, Paul are Born Again ,no scripture to back up your claims.

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes…it was at his baptism at the age of 30 that he received the power of holy spirit….before that time he was without such power. His first miracle was turning the water into wine.

What about when the angel came to Mary, and said she would be with child, how do you think God got her pregnant?

His power got her pregnant didn’t it?..that’s the part I’m trying to understand..if his power grew in her womb, wouldn’t that power have been instilled in Jesus growing in her womb?

Could Jesus have had two natures ..one divine one of human nature..just trying to make sense of How Gods Spirit got her pregnant then what he put in her grew into a baby...a very special baby..fascinating story how Jesus was Born don’t you think?

 

[Grailhunter]

Why do I have to believe on the name of Jesus when I’m Born Again @amigo de christo ?

Stop twisting my words..show me where Paul was Born Again?

You can’t for it is not written that he was, you are just trying to play me with your words..don’t do it and answer my questions?

Show me where any Apostle was born again. Their baptisms are not recorded in the scriptures. Paul was converted by Christ Himself and taken to Heaven and instructed by Christ. I think that count as born again….He was definitely changed

 

[ElieG12]

Do you understand that the Day of the LORD YHWH is also called the Day of Christ?


For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 1 Thessalonians 5:2


Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-2

First:
2 Thess. 2:2 in older manuscripts doesn't include the word "Christ" in the text, but "the Lord". Check here Center for New Testament Restoration

Second:
Even if there are some texts talking about "the day of Jesus Christ", like others talking about "the day of Jehovah" doesn't mean that Jesus is Jehovah. Jesus said:

Matt. 16:27 For the Son of man is to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will repay each one according to his behavior.

Actually, Jesus is the king enthroned by Jehovah in heaven, and his position corresponds to the throne of David, not to the throne of God. All Scripture speaks of Jesus being exalted by God, his superior.

Heb. 7:7 Now it is undeniable that the lesser one is blessed by the greater.

John 14:28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

Jehovah has no one greater than Him:

Heb. 6:13 For when God made his promise to Abraham, since he could not swear by anyone greater, he swore by himself, 14 saying: “I will surely bless you and I will surely multiply you.” 15 So after Abraham had shown patience, he obtained this promise. 16 For men swear by someone greater, and their oath is the end of every dispute, since it is a legal guarantee to them. 17 In this same way, when God decided to demonstrate more clearly to the heirs of the promise the unchangeableness of his purpose, he guaranteed it with an oath, 18 in order that through two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to the refuge may have strong encouragement to take firm hold of the hope set before us.